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On April 13 2011 10:17 MLGrben wrote: We are working hard to address many of the issues stated in this thread, including booths. If you have any other suggestions on how we can improve the SC2 stream and experience please email me ben at mlgpro dot com.
Ben,
I think this is awesome that this thread has attracted staff at MLG. I hope many of the complements that all of us have gave the DHI could serve as possible suggestions for future MLG events! I think the biggest thing that impressed me (besides the quality and stability of the stream) was the "personable" effect of the broadcasted venue. Not being crazy professional, not being crazy lax. I felt like the event was produced by "us", the community, not a corporation. The breaks in-between, the videos and songs really topped it for me... But the number one thing to focus on, is the players. Make sure they are happy and took care of. ie Booths (we know their coming), and making the players feel like they are at a massive event, not a lan party. We want a venue, not fold out tables <3. After that, focus on all of us. Take your projected numbers for stream viewers, and double it, and prepare for it.
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i actually thought IEM was pretty cool too.
But the breaks with the razer giveaway etc weren't much fun for not being there live ;E
DHI was a dream, though. Can't have that everywhere, or i wouldn't appreciate them. its not like GSL etc are doing BAD.
MLG? I wasn't able to follow MLG because the stream didn't load. The entire day. And to date i haven't seen a recap of it, don't even know who won.
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Dreamhack was amazing. Slightly better than the IEM events, which are very good as well. Those two, I'd say, are the best Western SC2 events. From production, to casting, to line-ups, to after-game interviews, to viewer experience, etc.
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We would like to thank you all for your kind words shown in this thread. This gives us great satisfaction and it only motivates us even more to keep up and even better the standards for our next event.
Yes, we do listen and we do read your feedback/opinions, because White-Ra is not the only one that cares. Someone mentioned that this was a production made "by fans for fans" and that was a spot-on assesment. Volunteers represented most of the guys behind the scenes and we couldn't thank them enough for all their passion, hard work and commitment that contributed to the overall success of this event. Same thing goes for the admins, visitors, sponsors, partners and, of course...YOU.
Once again, a huge thank you for your kind words from the production crew:
Markus, Mulleboy, TukTuk, Trance.
ps. Raw VODs are available on our Justin.TV channel: www.justin.tv/dreamhacktv youtube versions will shortly follow: www.youtube.com/dreamhackmedia
//signed Trance
It's Dreamhack baby! (c) Robert Ohlén Dreamhack CEO
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On April 13 2011 10:17 MLGrben wrote: We are working hard to address many of the issues stated in this thread, including booths. If you have any other suggestions on how we can improve the SC2 stream and experience please email me ben at mlgpro dot com.
One cool thing they did beside the booths, the noice canceling headphones the static cameras at close angles, the casting on stage, the interviews on a couch taking it easy after the game, having a host /MC to fill the audience in on details, showing games every so often, having a awesome editing team especially the guy fixing the overlay signs like "Winner?" for Jinro's interview, and "He cares" for White-Ra and whatever that brain thing was for MC.
One thing they did for players to not have to set up their settings and stuff was to actually move the whole computer with a player, if they were playing they put it into the booth and connected it up. and when they were done I assume they brought the computers out to the practice room they had set up for the players. I do know you don't have to go that far and if you can't just have hard drives that you can move with each player, onto which the game is installed and they have all their settings fixed and stuff so they don't have to think about settings thing up beyond plugging their stuff in and the hard drive You then need computers with identical set-up and settings. And then they can go straight into warm up.
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^ The CEO weighing in? Shiiit, <3 Dreamhack even more!!!
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On April 13 2011 12:45 dreamhackTV wrote:We would like to thank you all for your kind words shown in this thread. This gives us great satisfaction and it only motivates us even more to keep up and even better the standards for our next event. Yes, we do listen and we do read your feedback/opinions, because White-Ra is not the only one that cares. Someone mentioned that this was a production made "by fans for fans" and that was a spot-on assesment. Volunteers represented most of the guys behind the scenes and we couldn't thank them enough for all their passion, hard work and commitment that contributed to the overall success of this event. Same thing goes for the admins, visitors, sponsors, partners and, of course...YOU. Once again, a huge thank you for your kind words from the production crew: Markus, Mulleboy, TukTuk, Trance. ps. Raw VODs are available on our Justin.TV channel: www.justin.tv/dreamhacktv youtube versions will shortly follow: www.youtube.com/dreamhackmedia//signed Trance It's Dreamhack baby!(c) Robert Ohlén Dreamhack CEO
Not only am I impressed to get a direct response by the man himself, I feel honored, as the rest of us do. This is just another sweet sprinkle on-top of an already sweet experience today. If your summer event is as good as this one, it will attract world attention by ALL Starcraft 2 players, and hopefully everyone else. A showing like the one your organization did today will set the eSport scene ablaze.
Thanks for your amazing event that will go down in history.
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Wow dreamhack can do no wrong; their production values and seamless execution was a pleasure to watch and then the MAN HIMSELF - Dreamhack CEO posts in this thread; TL.net your reach is impressive..
Seriously though - dreamhack was unbelievable; excellent games and really well done; It's also nice to see the MLG guys taking note and reading through this thread to understand the issues that need to be addressed.
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I loved Dreamhack Inv. Excellent production, great casters, interesting games and I have to agree the crowd was fantastic. DH and GOM are the best tournaments by far. I hope NASL and the new IGN tournament would be this good. I enjoyed it a lot. Congratulations!
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Great tournament, great players, great casters, man... makes me look forward to future Dreamhack events if they can recreate any of this experience
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I wholeheartedly agree with the OP. Dreamhack was INCREDIBLE. Truth be told, I actually like their stage set-up more than GSL's. Guess the Swedes' love of beautiful design bleeds into their e-sports presentations. IEM and MLG need to step up their game.
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Oh god I've missed 2gd! He is sorely missed in the quake scene, but it's good to see him in SC2 at least!
Overall a great event with great casting, production and a well timed schedule!
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In the DHI thread (up to 480 pages, increasing about 5 pages every two minutes) I have noticed a lot of veiwers complaining about JTY (Justin.TV) lagging for them. I have watched from when the stream went live, and i have only had it lag for me for a total of maybe 1 minute streaming in 720p. Im not sure if the other stream is less intensive on your internet/computer, but i dont think it was a JTV issue. (which im on a 60MEG connection + Hexcore) If I can watch 1080p streams on a number of other sites smoothly, while 480p stream on JTV lags horribly, then yes, it's JTV issue. If you personally didn't have any problems with a stream it doesn't change the fact that many european viewers couldn't watch it.
DreamHack at least had alternative stream in 1080p. NASL doesn't have one
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On April 13 2011 12:45 dreamhackTV wrote:We would like to thank you all for your kind words shown in this thread. This gives us great satisfaction and it only motivates us even more to keep up and even better the standards for our next event. Yes, we do listen and we do read your feedback/opinions, because White-Ra is not the only one that cares. Someone mentioned that this was a production made "by fans for fans" and that was a spot-on assesment. Volunteers represented most of the guys behind the scenes and we couldn't thank them enough for all their passion, hard work and commitment that contributed to the overall success of this event. Same thing goes for the admins, visitors, sponsors, partners and, of course...YOU. Once again, a huge thank you for your kind words from the production crew: Markus, Mulleboy, TukTuk, Trance. ps. Raw VODs are available on our Justin.TV channel: www.justin.tv/dreamhacktv youtube versions will shortly follow: www.youtube.com/dreamhackmedia//signed Trance It's Dreamhack baby!(c) Robert Ohlén Dreamhack CEO
Men sluta göra mig så stolt över att vara svensk!
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Little things that made the event even better than I could have imagined:
Overlay: WhiteRa - He cares Immediately correcting misspelling of Crevasse 'Make some noise!' As soon as there was sound troubles, overlay would pop up 'Fixing sound asap' For Jinro - 'Winner?'
2gd poking fun at MLG, lag complaints, hilarious jokes, fixing awkward situations without a hitch (ie. translator nervousness) 2gd and the married couple routine, so cute WhiteRa WINKING OH MY GOD Starcraft music video parodies in between games Directly game related ads, not like hot pockets and dr pepper but more like GSL, BL:C, Radeon and other awesome ads KPOP!? The Final Countdown song before the finals Streamed from two excellent high quality sources Great audience + atmosphere
Did I miss anything?
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On April 13 2011 15:55 youngminii wrote:
WhiteRa WINKING OH MY GOD
It was very funny from the audience as well; it seems WhiteRa orchestrated it himself with the camera person. They gave a hint he was live and WhiteRa went for it. Hilarious :D
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I AGREE 1000000000000%
I have same feeling .... i was i mean , i didn't read this THREAD before , i didn't know a lot of you think the same but i was OUT OF MIND , i was just spamming the IRCes "this is awsome" "this is epic"
Seriously , commentators , serious , know when to joke, no headset problems(tasteless!!!!), they NEVER talked about offtopic, they never talked about sponsor or ads, they just NEVER acted like they're in a bar or what, it was really placed and just it was so freaking good organizations , the sponsor ads were non-flashy and non annoying, slow paced videos (none of those mainstream crap "BUY NOW DEAL EXTRA 599 + TOOTHFLASH") with great music, and commentators didn't REPEAT stuff 10 times over and over again ... [ex: Artosis: "We're back tasteless , were back , ... we're back tasteless , we're back , we're back , okay tasteless , hey tastelees, we're back" Tasteless: "Sorry about that headset problems , sorry about , so so sorry in the 1set about those headset coming off , sorr so sor really sorry about that A LITTLE technicalities problems before, so sorry sory , really soorry about headsets, oh why are always my headsets, sorry em soor sory really about it oh so sooory we're really sorry oh " OKAY I GOT IT THE FIRST TIME! ]
It is fenomenal, it was all high-quality feel , my body is warm from it , the energy is just unexplainable, to se something great ! Thanks to SC2 , PCs will rise again! Actually, GomTV ain't that bad except the crappy stream quality, they're just american-style, which is a matter of personal taste(and i actually only exposed personality examles which might not be fair,sry), so i give thoses guys a pass (they obviously love it however) , but they need to STOP mouthtalking when there is epic korean announcing going on !!! Even if i don't understand , I CAN'T LISTEN TO BOTH! SO whatever artosis flaps at that time i just ignore it.
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Tourney was pretty good overall. I just hate some decissions that players did ingame etc. I am just wondering why is idrA did even try to 6pool MC since it is so easy to block? Was it just because he was frustrated about protoss overall and he just made stupid decissions in game 1? Still would've wanted see idrA do something flashier than 6pool.
MC, tho deserved to win in the tourney.
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Congratulations on the enourmity of your success. Get 2GD on for every even, he is as charming as he is entertaining, wonderful stuff from him, the whole production was so cozy that I wanted to go there myself, Nerds made this event such a success, keep up the community feeling DH, and you will dominate ;~)
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On April 13 2011 12:45 dreamhackTV wrote:We would like to thank you all for your kind words shown in this thread. This gives us great satisfaction and it only motivates us even more to keep up and even better the standards for our next event. Yes, we do listen and we do read your feedback/opinions, because White-Ra is not the only one that cares. Someone mentioned that this was a production made "by fans for fans" and that was a spot-on assesment. Volunteers represented most of the guys behind the scenes and we couldn't thank them enough for all their passion, hard work and commitment that contributed to the overall success of this event. Same thing goes for the admins, visitors, sponsors, partners and, of course...YOU. Once again, a huge thank you for your kind words from the production crew: Markus, Mulleboy, TukTuk, Trance. ps. Raw VODs are available on our Justin.TV channel: www.justin.tv/dreamhacktv youtube versions will shortly follow: www.youtube.com/dreamhackmedia//signed Trance It's Dreamhack baby!(c) Robert Ohlén Dreamhack CEO
That is absolutely 100% why DHI was so effing amazing and it's the biggest problem I see with MLG. When Sundance was on State of the Game a while back I got the impression that he really doesn't give a shit about SC2. He just picked it up with his event so he could make money off it with a half-assed tournament that people would tune in for regardless of production quality. I really, REALLY hope that the folks at MLG step up their game and take a lesson from this amazing tournament we all witnessed today.
Dreamhack on the other hand, don't change a thing.
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