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FinalForm
United States450 Posts
Treat it like its a GSL Code S denomination. Players that are Code S are enshrined for their previous performance, and retain Code S indisputably for the length of a season. Then a new GSL season starts a month later and we have a new Code S players. Grandmaster gives us some names that we can hold on too for awhile. But yeah if the seasons last more than 3 months then that sucks. | ||
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Jaden-
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On April 14 2011 04:50 displaced wrote: I'm not going to look up the definition of inflation because I have class soon, but it should be pretty clear what I mean. Your implications were wrong - someone who quit last fall won't have a high MMR just by sitting on it for a year, due to everyone else's MMR rising due to a "MMR inflation" as I described. Unless everyone quits starcraft, MMR will constantly rise over time. if 2k MMR is top 200 today, in a year 3k mmr will probably be top 200. You're simply not correct about this. There is no MMR inflation for the active population. Here's Excalibur_Z's explanation from another thread (and I believe that his understanding of this comes from his conversations with developers at Blizzcon and through his connections from the Blizzard forum MVP program.) On March 06 2011 11:20 Excalibur_Z wrote: What we can take this to mean is that the top of the ladder gets more and more exclusive. Let's use a chess example. Let's say that I started a new league that used the existing Elo ranking system, but it was invite-only, and I decided to only invite 3 players: a 2800 grandmaster, a 2400 master, and a 1500 average player. Because they're only allowed to play each other, their former ratings will no longer be accurate. What would happen over time is that the average player's rating would plummet because he can no longer win any games since there are no ladder participants weaker than him to prop him up to 1500. The master player would become the new average because while he can't beat the grandmaster, those losses are offset by beating the average player. It may take some time before each player settles on their new rating in my ladder, but their ratings would be very different from what they were previously. The same is true in SC2 as time passes. Bronze players quit, Silver players no longer have as many Bronze players to beat, so they become the new Bronze players over time. We know this is the case because SC2Ranks, which shows league stats of all accounts, has around 44% of players in Bronze. That means a majority of those Bronze players have simply quit playing, and over time more people get dropped into Bronze because their MMRs are no longer propped up by those bad players, effectively making them the bad players relatively speaking. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12267 Posts
On April 14 2011 04:50 displaced wrote: I'm not going to look up the definition of inflation because I have class soon, but it should be pretty clear what I mean. Your implications were wrong - someone who quit last fall won't have a high MMR just by sitting on it for a year, due to everyone else's MMR rising due to a "MMR inflation" as I described. Unless everyone quits starcraft, MMR will constantly rise over time. if 2k MMR is top 200 today, in a year 3k mmr will probably be top 200. Calling it "MMR inflation" isn't technically accurate, it's more like "MMR recalibration" or "MMR correction" or something like that. Inflation means that the average rating increases over time as a result of new players feeding the average players who feed the good players who feed the very good players, but because Blizzard's system emphasizes activity and targets rating accuracy based upon activity, it cuts both ways. | ||
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Alphasquad
Austria505 Posts
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Jei-
Bulgaria33 Posts
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DiDigital
75 Posts
On April 14 2011 04:50 displaced wrote: I'm not going to look up the definition of inflation because I have class soon, but it should be pretty clear what I mean. Your implications were wrong - someone who quit last fall won't have a high MMR just by sitting on it for a year, due to everyone else's MMR rising due to a "MMR inflation" as I described. Unless everyone quits starcraft, MMR will constantly rise over time. if 2k MMR is top 200 today, in a year 3k mmr will probably be top 200. This isn't entirely true. The league average MMR will stay about the same over time. The very elite and the worst of the worst will see their rankings get further and further from the mean but I don't think the 'inflation' is that large. Blizzard uses static goal posts for the leagues which implies that the system is designed to prevent changes to player MMR's over time. Also we have already seen many many players from diamond all the way up to grand masters who have squated on their MMR rating and it has held up over time despite them earning it months ago. | ||
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Hydrox911
United Kingdom261 Posts
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random user
85 Posts
Edit: I misunderstood a post, and since I can't delete this message as far as I could tell, I tried to make it not totally useless. Sorry about that. | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
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Altern
United States1053 Posts
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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Zerglinguist
United States55 Posts
On April 14 2011 15:11 Wolf wrote: Don't know if anyone mentioned this, but you can't chat Grand Masters. Period. ??? This is not true at all. Maybe if they are RealID friends you are able to because I have a friend in grandmasters and I was giving him props after his promotion. I initiated the contact as well... I'll have to randomly whisper pros to see if they respond  | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
On April 14 2011 15:14 Zerglinguist wrote: ??? This is not true at all. Maybe if they are RealID friends you are able to because I have a friend in grandmasters and I was giving him props after his promotion. I initiated the contact as well... I'll have to randomly whisper pros to see if they respond I think you have to be mutual friends with them. I couldn't add/chat any of my friends from one of my accouts they didn't know. | ||
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OooLong
Canada98 Posts
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
On April 14 2011 15:46 OooLong wrote: How does Dayvie with 27-17 something rec got into GM but idra didn't. I don't get it. Idra is in: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/693604/1/EGIdrA/ | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 14 2011 15:11 Wolf wrote: Don't know if anyone mentioned this, but you can't chat Grand Masters. Period. huh? I got msg'd by people I don't have my friends list with a congratulations for getting grandmasters. :o. | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
On April 14 2011 16:47 blade55555 wrote: huh? I got msg'd by people I don't have my friends list with a congratulations for getting grandmasters. :o. Really? Maybe I'm flagged for being super chatty or something. Haha. It was like that for me on PTR as well though. | ||
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Kyhol
Canada2575 Posts
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