Grandmaster League Info Thread - Page 26

On April 14 2011 04:50 displaced wrote:
I'm not going to look up the definition of inflation because I have class soon, but it should be pretty clear what I mean. Your implications were wrong - someone who quit last fall won't have a high MMR just by sitting on it for a year, due to everyone else's MMR rising due to a "MMR inflation" as I described. Unless everyone quits starcraft, MMR will constantly rise over time. if 2k MMR is top 200 today, in a year 3k mmr will probably be top 200.

On March 06 2011 11:20 Excalibur_Z wrote:
What we can take this to mean is that the top of the ladder gets more and more exclusive. Let's use a chess example. Let's say that I started a new league that used the existing Elo ranking system, but it was invite-only, and I decided to only invite 3 players: a 2800 grandmaster, a 2400 master, and a 1500 average player. Because they're only allowed to play each other, their former ratings will no longer be accurate. What would happen over time is that the average player's rating would plummet because he can no longer win any games since there are no ladder participants weaker than him to prop him up to 1500. The master player would become the new average because while he can't beat the grandmaster, those losses are offset by beating the average player. It may take some time before each player settles on their new rating in my ladder, but their ratings would be very different from what they were previously.

The same is true in SC2 as time passes. Bronze players quit, Silver players no longer have as many Bronze players to beat, so they become the new Bronze players over time. We know this is the case because SC2Ranks, which shows league stats of all accounts, has around 44% of players in Bronze. That means a majority of those Bronze players have simply quit playing, and over time more people get dropped into Bronze because their MMRs are no longer propped up by those bad players, effectively making them the bad players relatively speaking.

On April 14 2011 04:50 displaced wrote:


I'm not going to look up the definition of inflation because I have class soon, but it should be pretty clear what I mean. Your implications were wrong - someone who quit last fall won't have a high MMR just by sitting on it for a year, due to everyone else's MMR rising due to a "MMR inflation" as I described. Unless everyone quits starcraft, MMR will constantly rise over time. if 2k MMR is top 200 today, in a year 3k mmr will probably be top 200.

On April 14 2011 04:50 displaced wrote:

I'm not going to look up the definition of inflation because I have class soon, but it should be pretty clear what I mean. Your implications were wrong - someone who quit last fall won't have a high MMR just by sitting on it for a year, due to everyone else's MMR rising due to a "MMR inflation" as I described. Unless everyone quits starcraft, MMR will constantly rise over time. if 2k MMR is top 200 today, in a year 3k mmr will probably be top 200.

On April 14 2011 15:11 Wolf wrote:
Don't know if anyone mentioned this, but you can't chat Grand Masters. Period.

On April 14 2011 15:14 Zerglinguist wrote:



???
This is not true at all. Maybe if they are RealID friends you are able to because I have a friend in grandmasters and I was giving him props after his promotion. I initiated the contact as well... I'll have to randomly whisper pros to see if they respond

On April 14 2011 15:46 OooLong wrote:
How does Dayvie with 27-17 something rec got into GM but idra didn't. I don't get it.

On April 14 2011 15:11 Wolf wrote:
Don't know if anyone mentioned this, but you can't chat Grand Masters. Period.

On April 14 2011 16:47 blade55555 wrote:


huh? I got msg'd by people I don't have my friends list with a congratulations for getting grandmasters. :o.