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On April 15 2011 00:47 uberism wrote: Nice to see two 17 year olds from Mexico at rank 1 and 2 of the ladder (Maker and sixjaxTerran). Also congrats to the 17 year old xsixMkengyn who was top 5 yesterday. Lots of young players stepping it up on the ladder.
Spanishiwa as well ^^
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On April 15 2011 00:47 PhiLtheFisH wrote: Yes, they are both in now, but weren't directly promoted after 1 win (afaik), so their MMR appparently wasn't high enough when the top 200 places were determined, they had to increase it to get into top200.
I don't know that we can say for absolutely certain that that's the case. It may be that not every grandmaster-qualified player was evaluated for promotion after each and every game, in which case their MMR may have been high enough but it may simply have required more than one game to get promoted.
This could be that the implementation of the league is a bit more complex than the general rules Excalibur_Z posted at the start of the thread, or there could be operational issues like applying server-side hotfixes that might delay a promotion. I don't know that we can entirely rule possibilities like that out, though I have no particular reason to believe any one of these is the case.
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On April 15 2011 02:00 Lysenko wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 00:47 PhiLtheFisH wrote: Yes, they are both in now, but weren't directly promoted after 1 win (afaik), so their MMR appparently wasn't high enough when the top 200 places were determined, they had to increase it to get into top200. I don't know that we can say for absolutely certain that that's the case. It may be that not every grandmaster-qualified player was evaluated for promotion after each and every game, in which case their MMR may have been high enough but it may simply have required more than one game to get promoted. This could be that the implementation of the league is a bit more complex than the general rules Excalibur_Z posted at the start of the thread, or there could be operational issues like applying server-side hotfixes that might delay a promotion. I don't know that we can entirely rule possibilities like that out, though I have no particular reason to believe any one of these is the case.
Yeah it doesn't sound like it should be that complicated. The way I understand it, it's like "current min moving average requirement: 2500" (whatever the #200's reserved value is) then somebody gets above that and gets in, then the new minimum requirement becomes 2550 (#199's reserved value) or something like that. The players who are way above the minimum should theoretically be getting in after their very first win, because even if they were to lose a game or two beforehand their moving average wouldn't fall far enough to drop below the minimum requirement.
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I hope somebody makes a decent thread about the GM league when it is completely full. Then we can use those threads to discuss the players in it and the matches they played.
I also hope that Blizzard awards the nr1 spot in the GM league with a cash prize. Something around 3K$, 2nd 1.5K$ and 3th 500$. Which is not bad for a 3 month salary, if you are also competing in other tournaments. It gives some extra prestige to the ladder and the league.
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Rank 100, HairyZenith made me lol .
Would be nice for someone to compile a full list of the people in GM once its full.
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I don't know if that has been answered, but it's not in the op. Will there still be a weekly Top 200 released by Blizzard, since you will only drop out of GM if your bonus pool accumulates too much points and the actual top 200 MMR wise could be different afaik?
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So, HuK streaming right now, trying to get into GM in KR but he hasn't made it. He is 80-57 with 857 points in Master. IMLosira is in his division, doesn't look like he's made GM yet either. I know yesterday people were shocked that Naniwa wasn't GM, but as soon a he started laddering today he made GM in EU.
Can someone make a list of all famous players that haven't made GM?
I know drewbie is still Master too.
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On April 15 2011 22:22 PraetorianX wrote: So, HuK streaming right now, trying to get into GM in KR but he hasn't made it. He is 80-57 with 857 points in Master. IMLosira is in his division, doesn't look like he's made GM yet either. I know yesterday people were shocked that Naniwa wasn't GM, but as soon a he started laddering today he made GM in EU.
Can someone make a list of all famous players that haven't made GM?
I know drewbie is still Master too.
HuK just won 3 straight games too, one vs Jinro and hes still not in...
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On April 15 2011 22:22 PraetorianX wrote: So, HuK streaming right now, trying to get into GM in KR but he hasn't made it. He is 80-57 with 857 points in Master. IMLosira is in his division, doesn't look like he's made GM yet either. I know yesterday people were shocked that Naniwa wasn't GM, but as soon a he started laddering today he made GM in EU.
Can someone make a list of all famous players that haven't made GM?
I know drewbie is still Master too.
why dont....you do it? its not like its hard.
grandmaster in KR will prob miss out alot of big names because alot of ladder heroes are actually really good out there
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HuK should just register an account on TW or LA or RU. So few people on those servers, he would make GM directly after placements or something.
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On April 15 2011 22:22 PraetorianX wrote: So, HuK streaming right now, trying to get into GM in KR but he hasn't made it. He is 80-57 with 857 points in Master. IMLosira is in his division, doesn't look like he's made GM yet either. I know yesterday people were shocked that Naniwa wasn't GM, but as soon a he started laddering today he made GM in EU.
Can someone make a list of all famous players that haven't made GM?
I know drewbie is still Master too.
main reason why i hate this ladder system, wish there was a way to check everyones MMR as personally i would love to know how close i am(or was), and how others are doing like huk.
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Considering MMR has absolutely no relation to visible points (especially since MMR was kept from last season) I don't see why people are so surprised. Blizzard should really release top 200 MMR list more often since it's become pretty apparent that rankings based on points are not close to MMR rankings.
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Ya must be hard to find time to ladder/practice when you are 17 and have no responsibilies outside of homework and spanish club :D
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I want to see some replays from Happy (Russian player), his 126 wins and 15 losses is INSANE
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On April 15 2011 21:54 Copenap wrote: I don't know if that has been answered, but it's not in the op. Will there still be a weekly Top 200 released by Blizzard, since you will only drop out of GM if your bonus pool accumulates too much points and the actual top 200 MMR wise could be different afaik?
I wouldn't expect to see anymore Top 200 lists. The whole point of the weekly Top 200 blog posts was they were a stand-in because people couldn't see at a glance who the 200 best players were within the game. Now with Grandmaster you can do that.
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On April 15 2011 22:22 PraetorianX wrote: So, HuK streaming right now, trying to get into GM in KR but he hasn't made it. He is 80-57 with 857 points in Master. IMLosira is in his division, doesn't look like he's made GM yet either. I know yesterday people were shocked that Naniwa wasn't GM, but as soon a he started laddering today he made GM in EU.
Can someone make a list of all famous players that haven't made GM?
I know drewbie is still Master too.
Haypro still in Masters ranked1. He's currently laddering on his stream trying to get into GM (and winning alot).
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On April 16 2011 02:56 Beyonder wrote: I want to see some replays from Happy (Russian player), his 126 wins and 15 losses is INSANE
yeh same. he was 111-11 when i checked. sick winratio esp for sc2
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On April 15 2011 00:48 meep wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 00:47 uberism wrote: Nice to see two 17 year olds from Mexico at rank 1 and 2 of the ladder (Maker and sixjaxTerran). Also congrats to the 17 year old xsixMkengyn who was top 5 yesterday. Lots of young players stepping it up on the ladder. Spanishiwa as well ^^
Also WZP is from mexico, very young and in GM
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On April 16 2011 03:12 archflames wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 00:48 meep wrote:On April 15 2011 00:47 uberism wrote: Nice to see two 17 year olds from Mexico at rank 1 and 2 of the ladder (Maker and sixjaxTerran). Also congrats to the 17 year old xsixMkengyn who was top 5 yesterday. Lots of young players stepping it up on the ladder. Spanishiwa as well ^^ Also WZP is from mexico, very young and in GM They all play the same way, too; weird.
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I love how people are still saying, "Hey! This specific guy over here still isn't in it, and that specific guy over there isn't in it either!" Guys EVERY system will leave someone out for X or Y reason at the very borders. It's the same argument they make every single year when selecting the Top 64 teams for the NCAA tournament. They get in the majority that deserve to be in there and if you were barely left out, work harder next time so you won't be on the border.
The only thing people should take away from Grandmaster's is that it'll be the Top 200 players playing under Blizzard's system. Nothing more and nothing less.
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