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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 17:19:39
April 11 2011 17:18 GMT
#161
On April 12 2011 01:55 ttomelle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 01:51 nam nam wrote:
On April 12 2011 01:43 ttomelle wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:44 Termit wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:25 NotSupporting wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:19 freakpower wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:15 T3tra wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote:
Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.


Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying

One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.

Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.


No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.

I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time


http://www.wcg.com/6th/history/ranking/ranking_wcgrank.asp




That reminds me of FIFA world ranking for soccer. Interesting but pretty much bullshit.


thats a list which exists since 2001.as i said esports is more than the current 2 maintitle.

furthermore:
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_wc3/
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_fifa/
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_css/
ok sweden is number 1 in 1.6
ye all these rankings are bullshit.
sweden is number 2 in europe.you gotta deal with it
but i hate it how so many nerds want to be number 1 to feel better.laughable.
pride is annoying.



I don't really care about rankings, but you're just as selective (I mean CSS? Nobody took that game seriously). Sweden owned at trackmania, Toxic in Q4 was one of the most dominating players in any game ever and in Q3 / QL swe > ger. It's silly to try to measure it with rankings, IMO Sweden and Germany tend to be pretty evenly matched in e-sports.
Nevarix
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden294 Posts
April 11 2011 17:20 GMT
#162
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote:
I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)

Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers


As you could read a few posts above you, in Sweden you can choose which surname the children should inherit.
126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
April 11 2011 17:25 GMT
#163
On April 12 2011 02:11 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 01:55 ttomelle wrote:
On April 12 2011 01:51 nam nam wrote:
On April 12 2011 01:43 ttomelle wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:44 Termit wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:25 NotSupporting wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:19 freakpower wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:15 T3tra wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote:
Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.


Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying

One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.

Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.


No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.

I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time


http://www.wcg.com/6th/history/ranking/ranking_wcgrank.asp




That reminds me of FIFA world ranking for soccer. Interesting but pretty much bullshit.


thats a list which exists since 2001.as i said esports is more than the current 2 maintitle.

furthermore:
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_wc3/
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_fifa/
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_css/
ok sweden is number 1 in 1.6
ye all these rankings are bullshit.
sweden is number 2 in europe.you gotta deal with it
but i hate it how so many nerds want to be number 1 to feel better.laughable.
pride is annoying.



On a side note, I remember you sending me a incomprehensible and somewhat offensive pm in another thread because I made a harmless comment about Goody. Maybe you should just relax and let people have opinions instead of going around the forums telling people what to do or think.


He seems to be on some sort of vendetta with Sweden, as you can see from him post history, so I'd just ignore him :/

On topic, great article and hope you have fun at Nyhetsmorgon Jinro! Don't be too nervous <3
jaedong: "I play Counter-Strike and that is the only game I like to follow [...] my favorite team is WeMade FOX but I also like SK and fnatic."
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
April 11 2011 17:27 GMT
#164
I wonder if his dad is as proud of his starcraft success, as he is of that manly chin he inherited!
:)
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
April 11 2011 17:27 GMT
#165
E sports is growing!


This is really cool to see!
busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
April 11 2011 17:29 GMT
#166
lol sick

I knew they were going to publish something on the web because they had reporters at his arrival, didn't think it would make it to the printed paper though gladly surprised!
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
April 11 2011 17:30 GMT
#167
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote:
I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)

Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers

"Last time I checked" Oh, so now you own the fact book of the world I see.
In Sweden, taking the Mother's name isn't uncommon in anyway, take your ingrained American traditions or whatever it is out of here. Yajck

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The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
April 11 2011 17:30 GMT
#168
Dude...the title of the thread was 'Jinro returns to Sweden'. I was freaking out thinking he was quitting the GSL.
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 17:33:01
April 11 2011 17:32 GMT
#169
On April 12 2011 02:18 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 01:55 ttomelle wrote:
On April 12 2011 01:51 nam nam wrote:
On April 12 2011 01:43 ttomelle wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:44 Termit wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:25 NotSupporting wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:19 freakpower wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:15 T3tra wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote:
Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.


Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying

One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.

Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.


No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.

I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time


http://www.wcg.com/6th/history/ranking/ranking_wcgrank.asp




That reminds me of FIFA world ranking for soccer. Interesting but pretty much bullshit.


thats a list which exists since 2001.as i said esports is more than the current 2 maintitle.

furthermore:
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_wc3/
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_fifa/
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_css/
ok sweden is number 1 in 1.6
ye all these rankings are bullshit.
sweden is number 2 in europe.you gotta deal with it
but i hate it how so many nerds want to be number 1 to feel better.laughable.
pride is annoying.



I don't really care about rankings, but you're just as selective (I mean CSS? Nobody took that game seriously). Sweden owned at trackmania, Toxic in Q4 was one of the most dominating players in any game ever and in Q3 / QL swe > ger. It's silly to try to measure it with rankings, IMO Sweden and Germany tend to be pretty evenly matched in e-sports.

Rapha and Cooller are the only Quake players I have ever heard of. That says something. It's not like you don't have any bias either. From a stand point outside of Europe, I would say that Sweden is definitely more famous for CS than any other country, even though AGAiN and Team3d gave both won two WCG Grand Finals, and the current dominating CS team is from Ukraine....

In terms of Starcraft 2, yes. But that's it. If you are going pull from every single game that anyone plays, Fifa is completely dominated by Germany, Unreal tournament was dominated by a German.

And the 'silly' rankings do mean something... especially when Sweden isn't even close to Germany or the US. Sure Sweden may be better at a few certain games, but the WCG ranking encompasses all game.
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
Jokithedruid
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden74 Posts
April 11 2011 17:36 GMT
#170
On April 12 2011 02:30 LittLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote:
I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)

Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers

"Last time I checked" Oh, so now you own the fact book of the world I see.
In Sweden, taking the Mother's name isn't uncommon in anyway, take your ingrained American traditions or whatever it is out of here. Yajck



Woooa, chill dude. He was just asking....
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
April 11 2011 17:38 GMT
#171
oh wow thats awesome, his dad should try to learn the game to Jinro's level. Then he could have a 24/7 stay at home practice partner LoL. All jokes aside, Welcome home Jinro.
ponyo.848
wideye
Profile Joined June 2010
United States209 Posts
April 11 2011 17:38 GMT
#172
biggest swedish superstar since petr forsberg
slim pickens
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
April 11 2011 17:41 GMT
#173
On April 12 2011 02:30 LittLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote:
I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)

Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers

"Last time I checked" Oh, so now you own the fact book of the world I see.
In Sweden, taking the Mother's name isn't uncommon in anyway, take your ingrained American traditions or whatever it is out of here. Yajck

lol wtf

Are all Swedes like this?
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
ttomelle
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 17:49:47
April 11 2011 17:44 GMT
#174
On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 02:18 hugman wrote:
On April 12 2011 01:55 ttomelle wrote:
On April 12 2011 01:51 nam nam wrote:
On April 12 2011 01:43 ttomelle wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:44 Termit wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:25 NotSupporting wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:19 freakpower wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:15 T3tra wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote:
Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.


Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying

One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.

Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.


No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.

I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time


http://www.wcg.com/6th/history/ranking/ranking_wcgrank.asp




That reminds me of FIFA world ranking for soccer. Interesting but pretty much bullshit.


thats a list which exists since 2001.as i said esports is more than the current 2 maintitle.

furthermore:
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_wc3/
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_fifa/
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_css/
ok sweden is number 1 in 1.6
ye all these rankings are bullshit.
sweden is number 2 in europe.you gotta deal with it
but i hate it how so many nerds want to be number 1 to feel better.laughable.
pride is annoying.



I don't really care about rankings, but you're just as selective (I mean CSS? Nobody took that game seriously). Sweden owned at trackmania, Toxic in Q4 was one of the most dominating players in any game ever and in Q3 / QL swe > ger. It's silly to try to measure it with rankings, IMO Sweden and Germany tend to be pretty evenly matched in e-sports.

Rapha and Cooller are the only Quake players I have ever heard of. That says something. It's not like you don't have any bias either. From a stand point outside of Europe, I would say that Sweden is definitely more famous for CS than any other country, even though AGAiN and Team3d gave both won two WCG Grand Finals, and the current dominating CS team is from Ukraine....

In terms of Starcraft 2, yes. But that's it. If you are going pull from every single game that anyone plays, Fifa is completely dominated by Germany, Unreal tournament was dominated by a German.

And the 'silly' rankings do mean something... especially when Sweden isn't even close to Germany or the US. Sure Sweden may be better at a few certain games, but the WCG ranking encompasses all game.


In terms of the dominating Unreal Tournament-Player:
Do you mean this guy?XD

Na but seriously thats true that germany dominated UT as well
I know that guy whos in the hall of fame of the wcg
In the video you can see that germans obviously never see the sun
maybe that explains the success a bit

ANYWAYS back to topic.
I love u jinro and im happy you get the acceptance u deserve
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
April 11 2011 17:48 GMT
#175
Thanks for this translation, Jinro is such a baller.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Frallan
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden56 Posts
April 11 2011 17:49 GMT
#176
On April 12 2011 02:41 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 02:30 LittLeD wrote:
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote:
I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)

Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers

"Last time I checked" Oh, so now you own the fact book of the world I see.
In Sweden, taking the Mother's name isn't uncommon in anyway, take your ingrained American traditions or whatever it is out of here. Yajck

lol wtf

Are all Swedes like this?


Naaah, It's kinda sad to see as a swede the amount of Swedish people arguing here about their own country's success in esports, to such a extent to even insult other countries.

OnT: Wednesday, note to self. Watch "Nyhetsmorgon" with Jinro ^_^
Vectoor
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden62 Posts
April 11 2011 17:51 GMT
#177
On April 12 2011 02:41 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 02:30 LittLeD wrote:
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote:
I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)

Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers

"Last time I checked" Oh, so now you own the fact book of the world I see.
In Sweden, taking the Mother's name isn't uncommon in anyway, take your ingrained American traditions or whatever it is out of here. Yajck

lol wtf

Are all Swedes like this?


Nope, just him being an idiot.
126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 18:00:38
April 11 2011 17:57 GMT
#178
On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 02:18 hugman wrote:
On April 12 2011 01:55 ttomelle wrote:
On April 12 2011 01:51 nam nam wrote:
On April 12 2011 01:43 ttomelle wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:44 Termit wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:25 NotSupporting wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:19 freakpower wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:15 T3tra wrote:
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote:
Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.


Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying

One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.

Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.


No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.

I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time


http://www.wcg.com/6th/history/ranking/ranking_wcgrank.asp




That reminds me of FIFA world ranking for soccer. Interesting but pretty much bullshit.


thats a list which exists since 2001.as i said esports is more than the current 2 maintitle.

furthermore:
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_wc3/
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_fifa/
http://www.esl.eu/enc/#/enc/ranking_css/
ok sweden is number 1 in 1.6
ye all these rankings are bullshit.
sweden is number 2 in europe.you gotta deal with it
but i hate it how so many nerds want to be number 1 to feel better.laughable.
pride is annoying.



I don't really care about rankings, but you're just as selective (I mean CSS? Nobody took that game seriously). Sweden owned at trackmania, Toxic in Q4 was one of the most dominating players in any game ever and in Q3 / QL swe > ger. It's silly to try to measure it with rankings, IMO Sweden and Germany tend to be pretty evenly matched in e-sports.

And the 'silly' rankings do mean something... especially when Sweden isn't even close to Germany or the US. Sure Sweden may be better at a few certain games, but the WCG ranking encompasses all game.


WCG has never been a place where all the best players compete though, it seems to mainly come down to how big Samsung is in the particular country. The WCG slot distribution system has a long history of not necessarily favoring skill, giving lots of slots to countries with no notable players (eg. 5 slots to Thailand in WC3 some years ago and 3-4 slots to India in TMNF in '09 - and then sometimes no one even shows up...) and not giving "enough" slots to countries that deserve them.

If you want to make an overview of past results you should at least also include the other two major multi-game tournaments, CPL and ESWC.
jaedong: "I play Counter-Strike and that is the only game I like to follow [...] my favorite team is WeMade FOX but I also like SK and fnatic."
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
April 11 2011 18:04 GMT
#179
We love you Jinro!
Sweden Fighting!
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 11 2011 18:05 GMT
#180
On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote:
Rapha and Cooller are the only Quake players I have ever heard of.

Ok, then we can establish that you know nothing about Q3. Neither of them are from Germany anyway so it's not helping your argument.

On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote:In terms of Starcraft 2, yes. But that's it. If you are going pull from every single game that anyone plays, Fifa is completely dominated by Germany, Unreal tournament was dominated by a German.

Most countries don't give a sh*t about fifa, but Germany happens to be one that does and the competitive scene Unreal Tournament was minuscule compared to Q3. Your examples is the equivalent of me bringing up Sweden being good at Curling as a counterargument to Germany being good at Football. WCG has had competitions for cellphone games, you want to go over those as well? Give it a rest.
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