Swedens largest newspaper, Aftonbladet has recently written a lot about StarCraft 2 and the latest article is about Jinros (brief) return to Sweden.
The article is really good and a sign that e-sports and StarCraft 2 is being embraced by a much larger audience.
So here's the complete translated article:
- Welcome home, darling! Katherine Walsh and Peter Karlsson met their son Jonathan ”Jinro” Walsh at Arlanda. – I've been following his matches. It is hundreds of hours I've been watching "Starcraft", says father Peter.
He went to Korea as a promising "Starcraft II"-player.
He came home as Swedens new superstar in e-sport.
When Jonathan "Jinro" Walsh arrived at Arlanda the cameras started flashing.
- It's fantastic. He's following his dream that he has had since he was 12, says the mother Katherine Walsh.
E-sport is finally on the way to get its breakthrough in Sweden. And most popular is the strategy game "Starcraft II".
Jonathan "Jinro" Walsh, 22, plays professionaly since last autumn at the highest level in the "Starcraft"-hot South Korea. During his time there he has become the most successful non-korean ever.
Surrounded by fans
When Jonathans father, Peter Karlsson, left "Jinro" at Arland eight months ago he couldn't imagine the scene that took place yesterday.
Back at Arlanda - now surrounded by a lot of media reporters and around twenty fans. Some of the most dedicated fans drove four hours in their car to meet Jonathan Walsh at the airport.
And "Jinro" - who've been traveling for almost a day smiled, hugged his parents and started to give interviews directly.
- I have practiced hard and have gotten a lot of support from my team. Hard preparations for specific opponents. Thanks to the preparation I've been able to win against opponents that technically have been better than me, he explains his successes.
Competing on tuesday
Jonathan Walsh visit in Sweden will be short. Together with seven other players - flown from both Korea and USA - he will compete in Dreamhack Stockholm Invitational on tuesday. The winner takes home 100.000 SEK. Kulturhuset sold out long ago. Aftonbladet Spela will broadcast the tournament live.
After that, "Jinros" proffessional life continous in Korea.
There is some clarification that needs to be put out.
I recall a long time ago an article being posted from "Sweden's Largest Newspaper" (on another forum) and everyone raged about how it wasn't a newspaper.
So basically in Sweden, they call news sites "newspapers".
Sov, aftonbladet is most definitely a newspaper -_- Whether this is in their printed edition or just online I have no idea, however, so if thats what you were getting at then thats a fair point!
Anyway, the guy was nice and I think Im meeting him again today at some dreamhack stuff.
On April 11 2011 18:50 SovSov wrote: There is some clarification that needs to be put out.
I recall a long time ago an article being posted from "Sweden's Largest Newspaper" (on another forum) and everyone raged about how it wasn't a newspaper.
So basically in Sweden, they call news sites "newspapers".
No we don't. And Aftonbladet is a newspaper and the biggest one. What people might have raged about is their credability since they have a bit of a tabloid image.
On April 11 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Sov, aftonbladet is most definitely a newspaper -_- Whether this is in their printed edition or just online I have no idea, however, so if thats what you were getting at then thats a fair point!
Anyway, the guy was nice and I think Im meeting him again today at some dreamhack stuff.
TJENA jinro, fan kunde inte komma.
Tell when you are leaving and ill be there for sure! :D
On April 11 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Sov, aftonbladet is most definitely a newspaper -_- Whether this is in their printed edition or just online I have no idea, however, so if thats what you were getting at then thats a fair point!
Anyway, the guy was nice and I think Im meeting him again today at some dreamhack stuff.
lol sorry :D it was hard to remember the clarification, only the shitstorm :\
On April 11 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Sov, aftonbladet is most definitely a newspaper -_- Whether this is in their printed edition or just online I have no idea, however, so if thats what you were getting at then thats a fair point!
Anyway, the guy was nice and I think Im meeting him again today at some dreamhack stuff.
It looks like a online only article, but I guess they might have a printed version of the whole tournament.
On April 11 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Sov, aftonbladet is most definitely a newspaper -_- Whether this is in their printed edition or just online I have no idea, however, so if thats what you were getting at then thats a fair point!
Anyway, the guy was nice and I think Im meeting him again today at some dreamhack stuff.
On April 11 2011 18:50 SovSov wrote: There is some clarification that needs to be put out.
I recall a long time ago an article being posted from "Sweden's Largest Newspaper" (on another forum) and everyone raged about how it wasn't a newspaper.
So basically in Sweden, they call news sites "newspapers".
No we don't. And Aftonbladet is a newspaper and the biggest one. What people might have raged about is their credability since they have a bit of a tabloid image.
"In 2006 the paper had 1,425,000 daily readers, circa 15% of the Swedish population."
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
Edit: yeah, the guy below me is right, you shouldn't be taking them too seriously, the forecast is cloudy with a high chance of troll.
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
When you say successful do you mean players winning, frequent tourneys or prize pool? I've felt since the release of Starcraft 2 that Germany seems more Esportsy than Sweden but I might just have been looking in the wrong places.
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
When you say successful do you mean players winning, frequent tourneys or prize pool? I've felt since the release of Starcraft 2 that Germany seems more Esportsy than Sweden but I might just have been looking in the wrong places.
Well you have to take into concideration that Sweden is a much smaller country than Germany, and that esports here is large compared to the amount of people that live in our country.
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time with domination in the FPS scene, really good players in the RTS scene and good players in DotA. Hell even i Trackmania. A small article here and there on Aftonbladets "gaming section" is not some kind of breaktrough because the people there are probably into games, and if you're into games you know what Starcraft is.
People who is not into esports or gaming have still the same attitude towards you if you're a gamer or if you talk about gaming. They think it's stupid, waste of time and nerdy. You're a antisocial nerd without a life or friends if you are a gamer. These people are still filled with so much stereotype bullshit that I just want to hit someone in the face when they say something like that. Thats the case where I live atleast.
The only ones who are "accepted" by non-gamers are the ones who play fucking CoD: Black Ops on console.
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
When you say successful do you mean players winning, frequent tourneys or prize pool? I've felt since the release of Starcraft 2 that Germany seems more Esportsy than Sweden but I might just have been looking in the wrong places.
In total prize money won I believe the rank is:
1. Korea 2. Sweden
Then Canada, Germany, USA and Ukraine after that in some order. I can't find the source right now though :/
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
When SK kept winning CPLs in 2003 / 2004 they were on the news a lot, they were on the morning shows and all kinds of stuff.
On April 11 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Sov, aftonbladet is most definitely a newspaper -_- Whether this is in their printed edition or just online I have no idea, however, so if thats what you were getting at then thats a fair point!
Anyway, the guy was nice and I think Im meeting him again today at some dreamhack stuff.
It looks like a online only article, but I guess they might have a printed version of the whole tournament.
Hey Jinro, before you decided to pursue a Starcraft 2 career, do you mind telling us what else you had in mind to pursue / what you were studying in university? Thanks!
On April 11 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Sov, aftonbladet is most definitely a newspaper -_- Whether this is in their printed edition or just online I have no idea, however, so if thats what you were getting at then thats a fair point!
Anyway, the guy was nice and I think Im meeting him again today at some dreamhack stuff.
It's in the printed version as well. It's a pretty big article: + Show Spoiler +
- " E-sports is on the verge of breaktrough in Sweden" as usually Aftonbladet is 10 years behind the reality....
-Aftonbladet is so big in Sweden that claiming it being behind in the News feed is ridiculous
- I agree! When E-sports is getting mentioned in the biggest tabloid and showed on TV its a breaktrough in my eyes. Furthermore when gaming gets approved by the Society as a profession we will have another breaktrough
-Just because you have a world champion in something does not mean that the sport is having a breaktrough. I feel that what Aftonbladet is trying to say is that E-sports is starting to become more mainstream
-E-sports? Thats so geeky. Wonder If "jinro" have had many injuries during pre-season? He migth get Carpal tunnel which is nothing to joke about. The physical aspect is neither something to joke about, so lets hope he prepares well , with good excersice and alot of Jolt before the big match
- I dont follow you. Why talk about the physical performance in e-sports? Nobody has ever suggested E-sports being a physical sport.( yeah sports,cause that is the umbrella term for activities with competition). I would rather place it in the same category as chess,poker etc.
- You have probably never played any game on a professional level . They train really hard. Must be tough for you that he earns more money in nine hours than you do in half a year . Congratulations jinro, put Sweden on the map in E-sports! "
-Starcraft 2 is entertaining to watch at,so give it a chance before giving negative comments
On April 11 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Sov, aftonbladet is most definitely a newspaper -_- Whether this is in their printed edition or just online I have no idea, however, so if thats what you were getting at then thats a fair point!
Anyway, the guy was nice and I think Im meeting him again today at some dreamhack stuff.
It's in the printed version as well. It's a pretty big article: + Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2011 21:30 nymfaw wrote: As much as I hate swedish media for what they did last election in Sweden this was awesome lol
SC2 is now so mainstream even narrow minded retards have started posting on TL.
enjoy your democracy
I had my fair share of problems with the politicians in sweden, but our democracy isn't in any danger thank you very much... Is this the part were I post something extreemly ignorant about norweigans?
Now I work with these people, and Aftonbladet may be the most public newspaper but it's also widely known to be pure shit in quality. However regarding entertainment news it's valid and thus this is a huge step forward for the establishment of Sc2.
On April 11 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Sov, aftonbladet is most definitely a newspaper -_- Whether this is in their printed edition or just online I have no idea, however, so if thats what you were getting at then thats a fair point!
Anyway, the guy was nice and I think Im meeting him again today at some dreamhack stuff.
It looks like a online only article, but I guess they might have a printed version of the whole tournament.
It was in the printed edition also.
This article is citing liquipedia as one of their sources! Thats quite cool
This is pretty insane. Each day, there is something new to prove that starcraft is growing and reaching an audience outside of our community. This is a great, positive article that may possibly bring in more Jinro and SC2 fans! The other article published recently, in a newspaper in France, had kind of a mixture of positive and negative statements. This article is by far the best!
We have seen it before, like someone mentioned SK cs-team was on television and in newspaper. There was also documentary about NiP. I wouldn't say it's a breakthrou for esports in general. But none the less it's great we get an articles about it. And I hope it continues.
On April 11 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Sov, aftonbladet is most definitely a newspaper -_- Whether this is in their printed edition or just online I have no idea, however, so if thats what you were getting at then thats a fair point!
Anyway, the guy was nice and I think Im meeting him again today at some dreamhack stuff.
This is so awesome! I'm happy for Jinro as a fan, but he's also a great role model slash spokesman for ESPORTS - such a nice guy, great family, etc. GL at dreamhack, Jinro fighting!
On April 11 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Sov, aftonbladet is most definitely a newspaper -_- Whether this is in their printed edition or just online I have no idea, however, so if thats what you were getting at then thats a fair point!
Anyway, the guy was nice and I think Im meeting him again today at some dreamhack stuff.
It looks like a online only article, but I guess they might have a printed version of the whole tournament.
It was in the printed edition also.
This article is citing liquipedia as one of their sources! Thats quite cool
Oh man, reading that page with google chrome translator is hilarious.
On April 11 2011 23:31 Bagi wrote: What is MC saying about playing terran?
My swedish is a bit rusty.
"Det finns ingen där ute som kan slå mig. Om jag spelar Terran skulle jag verkligen ha vunnit detta. Nu vann jag som Protoss för att jag är så pass bra. Jag har vunnit 640 000 kronor nu och nästa år blir det mer pengar."
There is none out there that can beat me. If I would have played terran, I would really have won this. Now I won as protoss beacuse I'm so good. I have won 640 000 sek now, and next year I will win more money.
Hard to understand really, something must have been lost in the translation from korean to swedish.
On April 11 2011 23:19 kawaiiryuko wrote: Wow! How do you say "fucking awesome" in Swedish?
"Så jävla bra!" is a good translation imo
I would say "asgrymt"
"Cepefett" is the best though!
Felt really weird hearing Jinro speak swedish in his interviews by the way, he sounds pretty different. In english he sounds like he has some kind of lisp or something but in Swedish he speaks really clear.
Soon, if people talk about Sweden, they will mention Jinro beside Astrid Lindgren, Alfred Nobel, Dolph Lundgren, John Ericson and ABBA. He is such a nice guy and already SC2 superstar.
On April 11 2011 18:39 TheSilverfox wrote: So here's the complete translated article:
- Welcome home, darling! Katherine Walsh and Peter Karlsson met their son Jonathan ”Jinro” Walsh at Arlanda. – I've been following his matches. It is hundreds of hours I've been watching "Starcraft", says father Peter.
He went to Korea as a promising "Starcraft II"-player.
Ah yes, "Jinro" and "Starcraft". We have dismissed those claims...
Seriously though, cool article - it's always great to see eSports getting more mainstream coverage, and Jinro definitely deserves recognition.
On April 11 2011 18:39 TheSilverfox wrote: So here's the complete translated article:
- Welcome home, darling! Katherine Walsh and Peter Karlsson met their son Jonathan ”Jinro” Walsh at Arlanda. – I've been following his matches. It is hundreds of hours I've been watching "Starcraft", says father Peter.
He went to Korea as a promising "Starcraft II"-player.
Ah yes, "Jinro" and "Starcraft". We have dismissed those claims...
Seriously though, cool article - it's always great to see eSports getting more mainstream coverage, and Jinro definitely deserves recognition.
On April 11 2011 18:52 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Sov, aftonbladet is most definitely a newspaper -_- Whether this is in their printed edition or just online I have no idea, however, so if thats what you were getting at then thats a fair point!
Anyway, the guy was nice and I think Im meeting him again today at some dreamhack stuff.
It looks like a online only article, but I guess they might have a printed version of the whole tournament.
To be fair, the people who are going to be interested in this article, probably don't read the actual newspaper. I know for sure that i rarely read one, as i can get the same news on their website, for free, at my convenience ;p
Newspapers are a dying medium, esports is an internet based industry, and you can reach way more people with an online post than with a printed newspaper.
Ah, it ended up in the Paper as well. It's a nice little article, and im very pleased to see it being factually correct as well. Aftonbladet has a tendency to...get things out of proportions if you may.
Damn. I really hope it goes well for you in Stockholm, I'm sorry I can't make it since the tickets sold out almost immediately, othwerwise I would have been there, cheering for you!
I really hope you can make it to the main event in Jonkoping later this year, then I'll be cheering for you at site!
On April 11 2011 18:50 SovSov wrote: There is some clarification that needs to be put out.
I recall a long time ago an article being posted from "Sweden's Largest Newspaper" (on another forum) and everyone raged about how it wasn't a newspaper.
So basically in Sweden, they call news sites "newspapers".
No we don't. And Aftonbladet is a newspaper and the biggest one. What people might have raged about is their credability since they have a bit of a tabloid image.
Well, do they honestly expect e-sports to be in a quality newspaper like NY Times or The Guardian? Apart from that, tabloid(-ish) newspapers have a way bigger crowd than quality newspapers, so in terms of promotion this is just fantastic!
On April 12 2011 01:11 BlackGosu wrote: so his father left him? and now he's back with him cause jinro is famous?
what? no.. why do you think that?
OT: This is so awesome! :D My non-gamer friend showed me the article today at work. This is great! More and more non-esportfans will definately take notice ESPORT and JINRO HWAEITING!
On April 12 2011 01:11 BlackGosu wrote: so his father left him? and now he's back with him cause jinro is famous?
Where did you get that impression from? I hope you're not stirring up drama for the sake of stirring up drama...
I'm guessing he misunderstood this part "When Jonathans father, Peter Karlsson, left "Jinro" at Arland eight months ago he couldn't imagine the scene that took place yesterday.".
On April 12 2011 01:11 BlackGosu wrote: so his father left him? and now he's back with him cause jinro is famous?
Where did you get that impression from? I hope you're not stirring up drama for the sake of stirring up drama...
I'm guessing he misunderstood this part "When Jonathans father, Peter Karlsson, left "Jinro" at Arland eight months ago he couldn't imagine the scene that took place yesterday.".
About 8 months ago Jinro left Sweden for Korea to participate in the GSL.
On April 12 2011 01:11 BlackGosu wrote: so his father left him? and now he's back with him cause jinro is famous?
Where did you get that impression from? I hope you're not stirring up drama for the sake of stirring up drama...
I'm guessing he misunderstood this part "When Jonathans father, Peter Karlsson, left "Jinro" at Arland eight months ago he couldn't imagine the scene that took place yesterday.".
Arlanda is the biggest airport in Sweden so that sentence basically said:
"When Jonathans father, Peter Karlsson, dropped "Jinro" off at Arlanda airport eight months ago he couldn't imagine the scene that took place yesterday"
The newspaper, Aftonbladet, will also stream the dreamhack invitational. SVT (think the BBC but Swedish) has been at the dreamhack lans for a couple of years doing web broadcasts.
On wednesday Jinro will also be attending a show called "Nyhetsmorgon" on the Swedish TV-channel TV4. It's one of those "Good morning/news" shows, and is broadcasted live to the entire nation. I don't know if it will be just him as a guest, or if there will also be some coverage from the DreamHack event (perhaps Jinro himself knows?). Nevertheless there will be VODs available here afterwards:
On April 12 2011 01:36 igge wrote: On wednesday Jinro will also be attending a show called "Nyhetsmorgon" on the Swedish TV-channel TV4. It's one of those "Good morning/news" shows, and is broadcasted live to the entire nation. I don't know if it will be just him as a guest, or if there will also be some coverage from the DreamHack event (perhaps Jinro himself knows?). Nevertheless there will be VODs available here afterwards:
On April 12 2011 01:34 IntoTheWow wrote: Oh, you take your mother's last name in Sweden? or is it a choice?
Nice that you got into an article btw FA :D
The child gets the mothers last name unless you decide otherwise. Wives usually take the husbands last name but not always (my dad took my mothers last name when they married for example).
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
Germany will always be the Number 1 in terms of eSports (in europe). Check the ENC nation rankings (fifa,Source,WC3),the WCG-Ranking,ESL,ESL TV.. etc. but for such a little country like sweden they perform pretty well tho. we shouldnt forget that there are more games than counterstrike. and germany is not weaker in sc2 as well.
On April 12 2011 01:11 BlackGosu wrote: so his father left him? and now he's back with him cause jinro is famous?
Where did you get that impression from? I hope you're not stirring up drama for the sake of stirring up drama...
I'm guessing he misunderstood this part "When Jonathans father, Peter Karlsson, left "Jinro" at Arland eight months ago he couldn't imagine the scene that took place yesterday.".
Arlanda is the biggest airport in Sweden so that sentence basically said:
"When Jonathans father, Peter Karlsson, dropped "Jinro" off at Arlanda airport eight months ago he couldn't imagine the scene that took place yesterday"
Oh, I know. I was only guessing where the first guy we quoted got the "his father left him" part from.
Wow, he's on Nyhetsmorgon? o.O That's actually pretty huge. I watch that every day before uni/work. Its basically a morning show that discusses a lot of current events. Its inspired by The Today Show on NBC.
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time
May your return trip home recharge your batteries, instill confidence, determination, pride, and other often considered positive outcomes. Go have some fun and return to Korea with a fresh mindset. Please.
On April 12 2011 01:43 Wihl wrote: Wow, he's on Nyhetsmorgon? o.O That's actually pretty huge. I watch that every day before uni/work. Its basically a morning show that discusses a lot of current events. Its inspired by The Today Show on NBC.
Not to brag or anything like that, but my dad actually works there and I gave him all the info on the event, on StarCraft and on Jinro in particular in order for them to do some coverage. 8)
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time
On April 12 2011 01:43 Wihl wrote: Wow, he's on Nyhetsmorgon? o.O That's actually pretty huge. I watch that every day before uni/work. Its basically a morning show that discusses a lot of current events. Its inspired by The Today Show on NBC.
Not to brag or anything like that, but my dad actually works there and I gave him all the info on the event, on StarCraft and on Jinro in particular in order for them to do some coverage. 8)
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time
On April 12 2011 01:43 Wihl wrote: Wow, he's on Nyhetsmorgon? o.O That's actually pretty huge. I watch that every day before uni/work. Its basically a morning show that discusses a lot of current events. Its inspired by The Today Show on NBC.
Not to brag or anything like that, but my dad actually works there and I gave him all the info on the event, on StarCraft and on Jinro in particular in order for them to do some coverage. 8)
So if they get anything wrong, you're the one to blame?
On April 12 2011 01:43 Wihl wrote: Wow, he's on Nyhetsmorgon? o.O That's actually pretty huge. I watch that every day before uni/work. Its basically a morning show that discusses a lot of current events. Its inspired by The Today Show on NBC.
Not to brag or anything like that, but my dad actually works there and I gave him all the info on the event, on StarCraft and on Jinro in particular in order for them to do some coverage. 8)
So if they get anything wrong, you're the one to blame?
If that would be the case then it would show that they actually used what I wrote, and I guess I would prefer that over them just doing their own thing and failing miserably anyway. Although really, all I did was explain some verbally to my father, and also wrote some 1.5 pages or so on the subject during the breaks between TSL3 games. 8)
On April 12 2011 01:34 IntoTheWow wrote: Oh, you take your mother's last name in Sweden? or is it a choice?
Nice that you got into an article btw FA :D
The child gets the mothers last name unless you decide otherwise. Wives usually take the husbands last name but not always (my dad took my mothers last name when they married for example).
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time
So what if it has existed since 2001? I know many rankings that have existed longer and are complete crap.
On a side note, I remember you sending me a incomprehensible and somewhat offensive pm in another thread because I made a harmless comment about Goody. Maybe you should just relax and let people have opinions instead of going around the forums telling people what to do or think.
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time
I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)
Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time
I don't really care about rankings, but you're just as selective (I mean CSS? Nobody took that game seriously). Sweden owned at trackmania, Toxic in Q4 was one of the most dominating players in any game ever and in Q3 / QL swe > ger. It's silly to try to measure it with rankings, IMO Sweden and Germany tend to be pretty evenly matched in e-sports.
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote: I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)
Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers
As you could read a few posts above you, in Sweden you can choose which surname the children should inherit.
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time
On a side note, I remember you sending me a incomprehensible and somewhat offensive pm in another thread because I made a harmless comment about Goody. Maybe you should just relax and let people have opinions instead of going around the forums telling people what to do or think.
He seems to be on some sort of vendetta with Sweden, as you can see from him post history, so I'd just ignore him :/
On topic, great article and hope you have fun at Nyhetsmorgon Jinro! Don't be too nervous <3
I knew they were going to publish something on the web because they had reporters at his arrival, didn't think it would make it to the printed paper though gladly surprised!
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote: I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)
Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers
"Last time I checked" Oh, so now you own the fact book of the world I see. In Sweden, taking the Mother's name isn't uncommon in anyway, take your ingrained American traditions or whatever it is out of here. Yajck
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time
I don't really care about rankings, but you're just as selective (I mean CSS? Nobody took that game seriously). Sweden owned at trackmania, Toxic in Q4 was one of the most dominating players in any game ever and in Q3 / QL swe > ger. It's silly to try to measure it with rankings, IMO Sweden and Germany tend to be pretty evenly matched in e-sports.
Rapha and Cooller are the only Quake players I have ever heard of. That says something. It's not like you don't have any bias either. From a stand point outside of Europe, I would say that Sweden is definitely more famous for CS than any other country, even though AGAiN and Team3d gave both won two WCG Grand Finals, and the current dominating CS team is from Ukraine....
In terms of Starcraft 2, yes. But that's it. If you are going pull from every single game that anyone plays, Fifa is completely dominated by Germany, Unreal tournament was dominated by a German.
And the 'silly' rankings do mean something... especially when Sweden isn't even close to Germany or the US. Sure Sweden may be better at a few certain games, but the WCG ranking encompasses all game.
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote: I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)
Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers
"Last time I checked" Oh, so now you own the fact book of the world I see. In Sweden, taking the Mother's name isn't uncommon in anyway, take your ingrained American traditions or whatever it is out of here. Yajck
oh wow thats awesome, his dad should try to learn the game to Jinro's level. Then he could have a 24/7 stay at home practice partner LoL. All jokes aside, Welcome home Jinro.
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote: I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)
Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers
"Last time I checked" Oh, so now you own the fact book of the world I see. In Sweden, taking the Mother's name isn't uncommon in anyway, take your ingrained American traditions or whatever it is out of here. Yajck
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time
I don't really care about rankings, but you're just as selective (I mean CSS? Nobody took that game seriously). Sweden owned at trackmania, Toxic in Q4 was one of the most dominating players in any game ever and in Q3 / QL swe > ger. It's silly to try to measure it with rankings, IMO Sweden and Germany tend to be pretty evenly matched in e-sports.
Rapha and Cooller are the only Quake players I have ever heard of. That says something. It's not like you don't have any bias either. From a stand point outside of Europe, I would say that Sweden is definitely more famous for CS than any other country, even though AGAiN and Team3d gave both won two WCG Grand Finals, and the current dominating CS team is from Ukraine....
In terms of Starcraft 2, yes. But that's it. If you are going pull from every single game that anyone plays, Fifa is completely dominated by Germany, Unreal tournament was dominated by a German.
And the 'silly' rankings do mean something... especially when Sweden isn't even close to Germany or the US. Sure Sweden may be better at a few certain games, but the WCG ranking encompasses all game.
In terms of the dominating Unreal Tournament-Player: Do you mean this guy?XD
Na but seriously thats true that germany dominated UT as well I know that guy whos in the hall of fame of the wcg In the video you can see that germans obviously never see the sun maybe that explains the success a bit
ANYWAYS back to topic. I love u jinro and im happy you get the acceptance u deserve
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote: I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)
Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers
"Last time I checked" Oh, so now you own the fact book of the world I see. In Sweden, taking the Mother's name isn't uncommon in anyway, take your ingrained American traditions or whatever it is out of here. Yajck
lol wtf
Are all Swedes like this?
Naaah, It's kinda sad to see as a swede the amount of Swedish people arguing here about their own country's success in esports, to such a extent to even insult other countries.
OnT: Wednesday, note to self. Watch "Nyhetsmorgon" with Jinro ^_^
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote: I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)
Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers
"Last time I checked" Oh, so now you own the fact book of the world I see. In Sweden, taking the Mother's name isn't uncommon in anyway, take your ingrained American traditions or whatever it is out of here. Yajck
On April 11 2011 19:10 cYaN wrote: Pretty cool. Lol at the standard negative reaction to the word ESPORTS in the comments on there.
Would anyone mind translating a comment or two? I'd be interested to see what people are saying
One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage.
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.
I would not exactly put it as esport is taking off in Sweden. We have been the most successful country in esports for a long time
I don't really care about rankings, but you're just as selective (I mean CSS? Nobody took that game seriously). Sweden owned at trackmania, Toxic in Q4 was one of the most dominating players in any game ever and in Q3 / QL swe > ger. It's silly to try to measure it with rankings, IMO Sweden and Germany tend to be pretty evenly matched in e-sports.
And the 'silly' rankings do mean something... especially when Sweden isn't even close to Germany or the US. Sure Sweden may be better at a few certain games, but the WCG ranking encompasses all game.
WCG has never been a place where all the best players compete though, it seems to mainly come down to how big Samsung is in the particular country. The WCG slot distribution system has a long history of not necessarily favoring skill, giving lots of slots to countries with no notable players (eg. 5 slots to Thailand in WC3 some years ago and 3-4 slots to India in TMNF in '09 - and then sometimes no one even shows up...) and not giving "enough" slots to countries that deserve them.
If you want to make an overview of past results you should at least also include the other two major multi-game tournaments, CPL and ESWC.
On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote: Rapha and Cooller are the only Quake players I have ever heard of.
Ok, then we can establish that you know nothing about Q3. Neither of them are from Germany anyway so it's not helping your argument.
On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote:In terms of Starcraft 2, yes. But that's it. If you are going pull from every single game that anyone plays, Fifa is completely dominated by Germany, Unreal tournament was dominated by a German.
Most countries don't give a sh*t about fifa, but Germany happens to be one that does and the competitive scene Unreal Tournament was minuscule compared to Q3. Your examples is the equivalent of me bringing up Sweden being good at Curling as a counterargument to Germany being good at Football. WCG has had competitions for cellphone games, you want to go over those as well? Give it a rest.
On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote: Rapha and Cooller are the only Quake players I have ever heard of.
Most countries don't give a sh*t about fifa, but Germany happens to be one that does and the competitive scene Unreal Tournament was minuscule compared to Q3. Your examples is the equivalent of me bringing up Sweden being good at Curling as a counterargument to Germany being good at Football. WCG has had competitions for cellphone games, you want to go over those as well? Give it a rest.
Most countries don't follow CS by alot. But Sweden does and that's why our Swedish players are so success. Pretty sure that FIFA is a game that is played by a casual audience. While most CS players nowadays play it for fun, but everyone knows who GeT_RiGhT or cArn is.
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote: I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)
Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers
"Last time I checked" Oh, so now you own the fact book of the world I see. In Sweden, taking the Mother's name isn't uncommon in anyway, take your ingrained American traditions or whatever it is out of here. Yajck
lol wtf
Are all Swedes like this?
Nope, just him being an idiot.
i know him since wc3 and he got banned on a website for stalking me, he is a huge moron actually.
On April 12 2011 02:18 DreamRaider wrote: I have a question. If Jinro's mother's name is Katherine Walsh and his father's name is Peter Karlsson (according to the article), shouldnt jinro's last name be Karlsson (Not Walsh?)
Last time i checked its fathers last name not mothers
"Last time I checked" Oh, so now you own the fact book of the world I see. In Sweden, taking the Mother's name isn't uncommon in anyway, take your ingrained American traditions or whatever it is out of here. Yajck
lol wtf
Are all Swedes like this?
Naaah, It's kinda sad to see as a swede the amount of Swedish people arguing here about their own country's success in esports, to such a extent to even insult other countries.
OnT: Wednesday, note to self. Watch "Nyhetsmorgon" with Jinro ^_^
Yeah, nationalism, who would have guessed it still exists, and even more in the internet...
All I have left to wonder is, where did Jinro's chin come from? I don't see it in neither his father or mother :S Grandparent most likely then.
On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote:In terms of Starcraft 2, yes. But that's it. If you are going pull from every single game that anyone plays, Fifa is completely dominated by Germany, Unreal tournament was dominated by a German.
Most countries don't give a sh*t about fifa, but Germany happens to be one that does and the competitive scene Unreal Tournament was minuscule compared to Q3. Your examples is the equivalent of me bringing up Sweden being good at Curling as a counterargument to Germany being good at Football. WCG has had competitions for cellphone games, you want to go over those as well? Give it a rest.
You are just a poor and terrible person who has to defend sweden all the time...in every thread. and i tell you what is it. you have a small ego and you want to feel better by posing with some success which is painfull for sweden.you are just too busy on TL to write how awesome you think sweden is.And telling other countries how shitty they are especially the biggest esports-nation in europe:germany. most countries dont give a shit about fifa..good one.fifa was one of the most sold games last year poland,russia,romania,france,uk,china,korea.all of them competed in fifa with the highest amount of players in the whole WCG..as a game. and do u believe they play LESS? in terms of UT.no competive scene? lol do u got a clue how many people played Unreal Tournament? and you know which country was third at 1 eswc? SWEDEN! oh wait but if sweden would have beaten germany everyone would care about UT right? and oh yea.germany managed to become first in the wc3 european nations rankings.NOONE cares! so basically you are just a blind patriot and all games where germany rocks "noone cares" lol you make my day. and now go to your mother and pick up some attention and compliments but please dont try it right here. sweden will never be the number 1 and you wont change it with stupid arguments unfortunately at least the majority of swedes are normal here but its funny that there are always the same 4,5 names who pose around these threads with their pride.kids.
Wow that is so cool that other countries are really getting interesting in Starcraft I got the nerd chills reading this... no doubt. Thanks for the translation!
On April 12 2011 04:26 FreddYCooL wrote: Does anyone when jinro will show up in nyhetsmorgon? its quite a long program and i do not want to watch the entire show
You used to be able to check text-tv (don't remember the page) to see the schedule for the current day. Not sure if they still do that though.
Very awesome, it's a great sign for eSports for so so many reasons. from the fact fans came out to greet their local player when he comes back, to showing how supportive parents are, to the simple fact that this made it into fairly mainstream local media.
On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote: Rapha and Cooller are the only Quake players I have ever heard of.
Ok, then we can establish that you know nothing about Q3. Neither of them are from Germany anyway so it's not helping your argument.
On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote:In terms of Starcraft 2, yes. But that's it. If you are going pull from every single game that anyone plays, Fifa is completely dominated by Germany, Unreal tournament was dominated by a German.
Most countries don't give a sh*t about fifa, but Germany happens to be one that does and the competitive scene Unreal Tournament was minuscule compared to Q3. Your examples is the equivalent of me bringing up Sweden being good at Curling as a counterargument to Germany being good at Football. WCG has had competitions for cellphone games, you want to go over those as well? Give it a rest.
You are just a poor and terrible person who has to defend sweden all the time...in every thread. and i tell you what is it. you have a small ego and you want to feel better by posing with some success which is painfull for sweden.you are just too busy on TL to write how awesome you think sweden is.And telling other countries how shitty they are especially the biggest esports-nation in europe:germany. most countries dont give a shit about fifa..good one.fifa was one of the most sold games last year poland,russia,romania,france,uk,china,korea.all of them competed in fifa with the highest amount of players in the whole WCG..as a game. and do u believe they play LESS? in terms of UT.no competive scene? lol do u got a clue how many people played Unreal Tournament? and you know which country was third at 1 eswc? SWEDEN! oh wait but if sweden would have beaten germany everyone would care about UT right? and oh yea.germany managed to become first in the wc3 european nations rankings.NOONE cares! so basically you are just a blind patriot and all games where germany rocks "noone cares" lol you make my day. and now go to your mother and pick up some attention and compliments but please dont try it right here. sweden will never be the number 1 and you wont change it with stupid arguments unfortunately at least the majority of swedes are normal here but its funny that there are always the same 4,5 names who pose around these threads with their pride.kids.
If you're going to troll (FIFA = ESPORTS LOL), can you at least post in legible English? Put some effort into typing. Thank you.
And please don't bother trying to convince anyone that you're not trolling. Because it's either that or your English reading comprehension is beyond terrible because you misunderstand pretty much everything you post about. And you pretty much only post about stuff like this, ever. Which is pretty ridiculous considering this is a Starcraft community.
I'm just gonna say this though. If Germany is a better competing ESPORTS country, it's because of games like BW, WC3, SC2, CS 1.6 and Quake put together, so you should focus on that for your crusade of convincing everyone that Sweden is terrible and Germany is super awesome. Not those kids games you keep harping about. That curling vs football analogy was pretty fitting actually.
On April 12 2011 04:26 FreddYCooL wrote: Does anyone when jinro will show up in nyhetsmorgon? its quite a long program and i do not want to watch the entire show
You used to be able to check text-tv (don't remember the page) to see the schedule for the current day. Not sure if they still do that though.
Just checked text-tv for the schedule. No Jinro there :S
On April 12 2011 04:26 FreddYCooL wrote: Does anyone when jinro will show up in nyhetsmorgon? its quite a long program and i do not want to watch the entire show
You used to be able to check text-tv (don't remember the page) to see the schedule for the current day. Not sure if they still do that though.
Just checked text-tv for the schedule. No Jinro there :S
Where is the source that he is even going to nyhetsmorgon? I missed it...
On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote: Rapha and Cooller are the only Quake players I have ever heard of.
Ok, then we can establish that you know nothing about Q3. Neither of them are from Germany anyway so it's not helping your argument.
On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote:In terms of Starcraft 2, yes. But that's it. If you are going pull from every single game that anyone plays, Fifa is completely dominated by Germany, Unreal tournament was dominated by a German.
Most countries don't give a sh*t about fifa, but Germany happens to be one that does and the competitive scene Unreal Tournament was minuscule compared to Q3. Your examples is the equivalent of me bringing up Sweden being good at Curling as a counterargument to Germany being good at Football. WCG has had competitions for cellphone games, you want to go over those as well? Give it a rest.
You are just a poor and terrible person who has to defend sweden all the time...in every thread. and i tell you what is it. you have a small ego and you want to feel better by posing with some success which is painfull for sweden.you are just too busy on TL to write how awesome you think sweden is.And telling other countries how shitty they are especially the biggest esports-nation in europe:germany. most countries dont give a shit about fifa..good one.fifa was one of the most sold games last year poland,russia,romania,france,uk,china,korea.all of them competed in fifa with the highest amount of players in the whole WCG..as a game. and do u believe they play LESS? in terms of UT.no competive scene? lol do u got a clue how many people played Unreal Tournament? and you know which country was third at 1 eswc? SWEDEN! oh wait but if sweden would have beaten germany everyone would care about UT right? and oh yea.germany managed to become first in the wc3 european nations rankings.NOONE cares! so basically you are just a blind patriot and all games where germany rocks "noone cares" lol you make my day. and now go to your mother and pick up some attention and compliments but please dont try it right here. sweden will never be the number 1 and you wont change it with stupid arguments unfortunately at least the majority of swedes are normal here but its funny that there are always the same 4,5 names who pose around these threads with their pride.kids.
If you're going to troll (FIFA = ESPORTS LOL), can you at least post in legible English? Put some effort into typing. Thank you.
And please don't bother trying to convince anyone that you're not trolling. Because it's either that or your English reading comprehension is terrible because you misunderstand pretty much everything you post about. And you pretty much only post about stuff like this, ever. Which is pretty ridiculous considering this is a Starcraft community.
I'm just gonna say this though. If Germany is a better competing ESPORTS country, it's because of games like BW, WC3, SC2, CS 1.6 and Quake put together. Not those kids games you keep harping about.
exactly you are one of these mentioned 4,5 names.Some minutes ago i was about to forget you. and i think i better will. and you boy better put some effort in typing how normal sweden is.im sure you can do that!
"(FIFA = ESPORTS LOL)" ok i knew i shouldnt take you seriously anymore.dawn it..
On April 12 2011 04:26 FreddYCooL wrote: Does anyone when jinro will show up in nyhetsmorgon? its quite a long program and i do not want to watch the entire show
You used to be able to check text-tv (don't remember the page) to see the schedule for the current day. Not sure if they still do that though.
Just checked text-tv for the schedule. No Jinro there :S
It might be there if you check that morning (was it Wednesday?) when it's supposed to be broadcast. Otherwise you'll just have to watch the whole thing or wait for it to be put on tv4play.
On April 12 2011 04:26 FreddYCooL wrote: Does anyone when jinro will show up in nyhetsmorgon? its quite a long program and i do not want to watch the entire show
You used to be able to check text-tv (don't remember the page) to see the schedule for the current day. Not sure if they still do that though.
Just checked text-tv for the schedule. No Jinro there :S
Where is the source that he is even going to nyhetsmorgon? I missed it...
I checked back and apparently it's from a poster in this thread that didn't provide a link claiming his father works there. In all the excitement people didn't really question him.
On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote: Rapha and Cooller are the only Quake players I have ever heard of.
Ok, then we can establish that you know nothing about Q3. Neither of them are from Germany anyway so it's not helping your argument.
On April 12 2011 02:32 Kazzabiss wrote:In terms of Starcraft 2, yes. But that's it. If you are going pull from every single game that anyone plays, Fifa is completely dominated by Germany, Unreal tournament was dominated by a German.
Most countries don't give a sh*t about fifa, but Germany happens to be one that does and the competitive scene Unreal Tournament was minuscule compared to Q3. Your examples is the equivalent of me bringing up Sweden being good at Curling as a counterargument to Germany being good at Football. WCG has had competitions for cellphone games, you want to go over those as well? Give it a rest.
You are just a poor and terrible person who has to defend sweden all the time...in every thread. and i tell you what is it. you have a small ego and you want to feel better by posing with some success which is painfull for sweden.you are just too busy on TL to write how awesome you think sweden is.And telling other countries how shitty they are especially the biggest esports-nation in europe:germany. most countries dont give a shit about fifa..good one.fifa was one of the most sold games last year poland,russia,romania,france,uk,china,korea.all of them competed in fifa with the highest amount of players in the whole WCG..as a game. and do u believe they play LESS? in terms of UT.no competive scene? lol do u got a clue how many people played Unreal Tournament? and you know which country was third at 1 eswc? SWEDEN! oh wait but if sweden would have beaten germany everyone would care about UT right? and oh yea.germany managed to become first in the wc3 european nations rankings.NOONE cares! so basically you are just a blind patriot and all games where germany rocks "noone cares" lol you make my day. and now go to your mother and pick up some attention and compliments but please dont try it right here. sweden will never be the number 1 and you wont change it with stupid arguments unfortunately at least the majority of swedes are normal here but its funny that there are always the same 4,5 names who pose around these threads with their pride.kids.
What the hell are you talking about? I don't go around defending Sweden in every thread and I usually get quite annoyed at people who feel the need to point out how good Sweden is every time a swedish player has some kind of success, but in this case I was responding to a guy who said that Germany owns Sweden in e-sports and I don't agree with that. I said I think the two countries are pretty even overall.
You on the other hand are just a troll, trying to piss people off and claiming I said thing that I didn't. For example I never said Germany was shitty, now please go troll somewhere else.
On April 12 2011 04:51 Shiladie wrote: Very awesome, it's a great sign for eSports for so so many reasons. from the fact fans came out to greet their local player when he comes back, to showing how supportive parents are, to the simple fact that this made it into fairly mainstream local media.
"Fairly mainstream local media" is probably a vague term, but it's actually an article in a newspaper (that even though it has some sort of tabloid-status) is read by 2,5 million people daily, that's about 25% of the swedish population.
And if I'm trusting the people in this thread that he is appearing on "Nyhetsmorgon" in a few days that's huge! My guess is they're airing an interview and Jinro will have a chance to promote SC2 in Sweden even more.
And "Nyhetsmorgon" is the Swedish equivalent of "<insert random broadcasting company> Morning News"
(for more statistics, according to MMS, who measure vieweramounts in Sweden TV4, who are supposedly interviewing Jinro, is watched by about 40% of the Swedish population daily, couldn't find specific info for "Nyhetsmorgon" sadly).
So lets just hope esports takes off for real and gets a dedicated show on TV sometime in the near future, would be awesome!
I really hope we can see Jinro get back up to the point where he is beating people that no one expects. I'm a big fan, and it's been hard to see him getting taken out so much
A lot of you asked when Jinro will appear on Nyhetsmorgon on april 13th. This is not decided until the day before, so at best I could give you an update sometime late april 12th (CET). I asked my father to sent me a text when he finds out the schedule, but I will be attending the DreamHack invitational so I won't be home until late in the evening (I guess).
Though come to think about it, I guess one of my friends has a decent phone with internet and could lend it to me to make a post here. Or I could give the info to Rakaka/Rakakaworld or some-such site (since Rakaka and DreamHack basically go hand in hand), and they could update their site with the info. Nevertheless I'll try to make sure I can give you the info ASAP.
that just put the biggest smile on my face. congratz to jinro, must have been really awesome seeing the effect you have on esports in your home country. Hopefully give you that boost you need to take home (or leave home i suppose) with the gold.
Awwwww....that's a great picture. You can really tell Jinro is happy to be back home. Too bad we probably won't get that kind of coverage here in America. Only way I see the mainstream media paying attention to SC2 is if Idra rages so hard that he pulls out a gun and starts killing people at a major tournament.
It's in the printed version by the way My friend showed it to me this afternoon. It was pretty funny with the "Best starcraft 2 player in the world!*" *Outside of Korea hahaha I guess by foreigner accomplishments in GSL that's somewhat true.
He's coming back for the Dreamhack Stockholm Invitational thing. It's got a TSL prize pool and is pretty huge. All of the like 400 tickets sold out in 2 days T.T
Hell yeah! Sweden better be into Starcraft, look at their National Team: Jinro, Sjow, Sase, Naniwa, Thorzain, Morrow, Haypro, Lalush, and a bunch of others. But it's great to see this growing.
"If you don't think E-sports is the most important thing in the world, then your opinion doesn't count." -Artosis
This is really really awesome. Its great to see such positive attention brought to a worthy player. To have even a small article link this in something thats quite mainstream is fantastic, and will help e-sports grow.
Its great to see that the attention has been put into the right place, Jinro is the perfect person to live up to the "hometown hero" persona.
On April 11 2011 18:39 TheSilverfox wrote: Jonathan "Jinro" Walsh, 22, plays professionaly since last autumn at the highest level in the "Starcraft"-hot South Korea. During his time there he has become the most successful non-korean ever.
I assume they mean sc2 and not sc1+sc2? Even though they say 'highest level in the "Starcraft"-hot South Korea.'
Since my father works at nyhetsmorgon, I will be able to go there tomorrow to meet Jinro. But I'm not posting this to brag. No, really.
I asked one of his co-workers (to whom I sent my paper on SC2 and jinro etc) when I should be there. She told me to be there by 9, so I'm guessing Jinro will be on around 9.
I will make another post when I have more detailed information though.
Idra leaving Korea. Jinro Leaving Korea. Will there be no other foreigners that will be in the Korean Scene? (and I mean GOOD foreigners, not ... you get the idea)
On April 12 2011 18:32 orgolove wrote: Idra leaving Korea. Jinro Leaving Korea. Will there be no other foreigners that will be in the Korean Scene? (and I mean GOOD foreigners, not ... you get the idea)
On April 12 2011 18:32 orgolove wrote: Idra leaving Korea. Jinro Leaving Korea. Will there be no other foreigners that will be in the Korean Scene? (and I mean GOOD foreigners, not ... you get the idea)
Did you even read the article??? It clearly says he went home "briefly"
On April 12 2011 18:32 orgolove wrote: Idra leaving Korea. Jinro Leaving Korea. Will there be no other foreigners that will be in the Korean Scene? (and I mean GOOD foreigners, not ... you get the idea)
Did you even read the article??? It clearly says he went home "briefly"
50% of people makes an answers just by reading the topic, though.
So nice, SC2 gets a lot of attention in the public, that's awesome!
[/QUOTE] One of them was something about how ESPORTS wasn't a real SPORT because you couldn't get any injury worse than mouse arm/carpal tunnel. You know, because it's no sport if it don't hurt. He was quickly shot down, though.
Then there's a discussion about how ESPORTS™ might finally be expanding beyond its status as a subculture, considering how this article got on the front page of Aftonbladets homepage. [/QUOTE]
No doubt that esports is taking off in Sweden, we are the most successful country in the world after Korea in Starcraft 2 and newspapers aren't late to pick up on that fact. The tune has totally changed regarding computer gaming compared to just a few years back where every report in media about gaming had a negative angle.[/QUOTE]
Honestly that was my first thought when I saw Aftonbladet had a piece of esports "please let this not be another "gaming is bad" article. Thankfully it turned out to be anything but and more similar to a home coming story of any other sport.
As for Aftonbladet hyping Jinro up a little bit, what did you except? Still there is an argument that could be made for Jirno being the most accomplished foreigner so far in sc2, remember he did win MLG Dallas last year as well.
"Jinro 'livelihood as e-sports pro He gets two cooked meals a day.
He does not make the bed himself.
He lives with 15 other professional players.
- Everything is taken care of, it's almost like living at home when you are young, "says Swedish e-sport star and the Korea-Pro Jonathan" Jinro "Walsh.
A young man waiting a bit nervously at the entrance to the gaming cafe Inferno Online in Stockholm. In the end he concludes courage and walk up to me and the photographer Bilberg and asks:
- Do you think I can get "Jinros' autograph?
Jonathan "Jinro" Walsh, 22, is accustomed. After eight months working as a professional e-sports in Korea. During the big "StarCraft II" games in Seoul the fans gather. When Jonathan goes to get a haircut the hairdresser knows who he is.
South Korea has "Starcraft"-fevers in ten years. The major tournaments are broadcast on sold out huge arenas. When you look at aerial photos of the audience oceans it is not U2, which stands on the stage - it is the country's e-sports stars.
"Lots of money" - Those who became stars in the first "StarCraft" can go into a restaurant and all the staff want their autograph, "says Jonathan.
There are still many who are not ready to accept e-sports as a "real" sports. Who find it incomprehensible that you can make a living at playing video games.
- When there is a tournament that is determined each month with the winner playing home $ 50 000 (over 300 000 SEK) so you can live on it. It is broadcast on television, there are people who watch it, there are sponsors who pay lots of money for you to represent them when playing the big tournaments.
Dreamhack driving With computer festival Dreamhack, the flagship, Sweden has begun to establish itself as a major e-sports nation. Today is competing for the first time eight of the world's best "Starcraft II" Player of Culture in Stockholm.
"Jinro" is the most successful non-Korean ever to "Starcraft II". He is the only foreign player who made it to two semi-finals in GSL - Global Starcraft League. To succeed at this level requires both tremendous powers of concentration and lightning-fast fingers. Real-time strategy game forces the players to several hundred decision in minutes.
- It's like playing the piano. I would not say that it is not as difficult to play at the highest level concert. But in the game there's also an element of strategy. And one missclick and the match could be over.
Have to keep in shape.. It must mean a true heavy burden on the body.
- I notice it when I before a game just practice, practice, practice. One can notice that the hand complain a bit. But we go to the gym, we live pretty healthy.
You have to do it to succeed?
- Yeah. If you are in good physical shape to keep you playing longer and as you can concentrate longer. It is no wonder that most Korean pro gamers are in pretty good shape.
How does your personality affect the way you play?
- I think everybody's personality affects the way they play. My specific? If you look at me, I'm very "obsessive" with stuff I do. Have I lost one game so I can easily feel that I'm going to play for 20 hours. I am not a good loser. Then I'm a little too passive, which I think has to do with my personality. I almost think that the game might change my personality more than anything else. I may be too passive in real life too, but I notice that there is a problem in the "Starcraft". And then I might change it in both the "Starcraft" and real life.
"I'm 'Jinro', come home with me!" Jonathan Walsh lives in Incheon, the neighboring city of Seoul, along with 15 other professional players in the same apartment. They eat, going to the gym and working out "Starcraft II" all day. They have a cook and maid who takes care of the household.
- She cleans everything, wash everything, buying food. Everything is taken care of, it's almost like living at home when you are young, haha. There is not much more responsibility.
Do you have time for a social life?
- Yes, but there are some difficulties with the language. There are not many Koreans who speak English well enough to be able to have a sophisticated conversation. But all the Koreans in our team has improved a lot in English since we arrived. And we at Liquid have started taking Korean lessons.
Is it easy to pick up girls in Korea if you are a progamer at "Starcraft"?
- If you are "Boxer" (Lim Yo-Hwan, also known as "Emperor", the most famous "StarCraft" player, editor. Note.), No problem. But I do not think I can say: 'I am' Jinro ', come home with me! "
You should try.
- It would be interesting, I must learn how to say it in Korean first.
- When there is a tournament that is determined each month with the winner playing home $ 50 000 (over 300 000 euros) so you can live on it. It is broadcast on television, there are people who watch it, there are sponsors who pay lots of money for you to represent them when playing the big tournaments.
"Jinro" is a professional e-sports player. He gets two cooked meals a day. He does not make the bed himself. He lives with 15 other progamers.
- Everything is taken care of, it's almost like living at home when you are young, "says Swedish e-sport star and the Korea-Pro Jonathan" Jinro "Walsh.
A young man is waiting nervously at the entrance to the gaming cafe Inferno Online in Stockholm. Finally, he approaches me and my photographer Bilberg and asks:
- Do you think I can get "Jinros" autograph?
Jonathan "Jinro" Walsh, 22, is used to it. He's been a professional e-sports player for eight months in South Korea. The big "StarCraft II" games in Seoul bring hordes of fans. When Jonathan gets his hair cut the barber knows who he is.
South Korea has had the "Starcraft" fever for the last ten years. The major tournaments are broadcasted on sold out, huge arenas. Looking at the crowd, one might think U2 is on stage - but it's the domestic e-sports superstars.
"Lots of money" - Those who became stars in the original "StarCraft" game can go into a restaurant and the whole staff will ask for their autograph, Jonathan says.
There are still lots of people who are not ready to accept e-sports as a "real" sport. A lot of people find it incomprehensible that you can make a living from playing video games.
- When there is a monthly tournament with the winner bringing home $50 000 (over 300 000SEK) you can live off of gaming. The matches are broadcasted on television, there are tonnes of people watching it, there are sponsors paying lots of money for you to represent them while playing the big tournaments.
Dreamhack, a driving force With computer festival Dreamhack as its flagship, Sweden has started establishing itself as a major e-sports nation. Today - for the first time - eight of the worlds best "Starcraft II" players will be competing in Kulturhuset in Stockholm.
"Jinro" is the most successful non-Korean ever to "Starcraft II". He is the only foreigner who made it to two semi-finals in GSL - Global Starcraft League. To succeed at this level you need both tremendous powers of concentration and lightning-fast fingers. Real-time strategy games forces the player to make hundreds of decisions per minute.
- It's like playing the piano. I don't want to say it is as difficult as playing the piano at the very highest level, but the game also involves an element of strategy. One misclick and the match could end in your opponents favor.
Got to keep in shape Practicing so much must put a heavy strain on the body. - I notice it when I practice, practice, practice before a game. I can feel my hand complaining sometimes, but we hit the gym regularly, we live fairly healthy.
You need a healthy lifestyle to succeed?
- Indeed. If you are in good physical shape, it will make you able to play for longer periods of time and it will help your concentration. It's no wonder that most Korean pro gamers are pretty fit.
How does your personality affect your playstyle?
- I think everybody has their own playstyle because of their personality. My personality? If you look at me, I'm very "obsessive" with stuff I do. If I've lost a game I'll often feel that I need to play for 20 hours. I'm also a bit too passive, which I acredit my personality. I'd rather say the game changes my personality than the other way around. Maybe I'm too passive in real life too, but I only connect it to problems in Starcraft. Maybe I'll change that both in Starcraft and real life.
"I'm 'Jinro', come home with me!" Jonathan Walsh lives in Incheon, the neighboring city of Seoul. He shares a flat with 15 other professional gamers. They eat, hit the gym and practice "Starcraft II" all day. They have a cook and maid who takes care of the household.
- She cleans everything, wash everything, buys groceries. Everything is taken care of, it's almost like living at home when you are young, haha. There is not much more responsibility.
Do you have time for a social life?
- Yes, but there are some difficulties with the language. There are not many Koreans who speak English well enough to be able to have a sophisticated conversation. But all the Koreans in our team has improved a lot in English since our arrival. And we at Liquid have started taking Korean lessons.
Is it easy to pick up girls in Korea if you are a progamer at "Starcraft"?
- If you are "BoxeR" (Lim Yo-Hwan, also known as "Emperor", the most famous "StarCraft" player, editor. Note.), No problem. But I do not think I can say: 'I am' Jinro ', come home with me! "
You should try.
- It would be interesting, I must learn how to say it in Korean first.
I did some corrections, it took much longer than i had thought it would so I hope someone else didn't do it too
It is really inspiring to see the media in Sweden acknowledging Jinro's accomplishments and publishing it in a way that doesn't make the competitive scene sound childish. Every time I see something about "esports" in America is just older news casters laughing.
I'm wathcing Nyhetsmorgon right now! Looks like Jinro is going to play live :D Haha this is awesome! The amount of attention this event gets in swedish media is incredible! They even displayed the results in yesterdays late newscast.
Jinro interveiws awsomely as usual. And finaly an older news caster who draws parallels to Champions Leage or Stanely Cup There should be VoD from Tv4 Later on.
For those in Sweden that missed him on Nyhetsmorgon.. Don't know if outside countries can watch but it's in swedish as well. Someone go translate if it's interesting haven't watched it yet. Need to sleep worked all night ^___^
Jinro was great on TV4 and the hosts were ok as well. Of course they knew little about SC2 and e-sports but they made an effort to understand and weren't awkward at all.
He was on radio just now on "P3 populär" in à 5 min interview, I'll make an effort to translate both, expect translations about an hour¨
Translation of TV4's Nyhetsmorgon: (Rather a transcript!)
J = Jinro MI = Male interviewer FI = Female interviewer
Here we are with Jonathan Walsh, who is one of the best in what is known as Starcraft 2, one of the worlds largest E-sports, last night there was a big, big competition.
Dreamhack Stockholm Invitational and there were 8 players flown in from America, Europe and Korea, to compete in this 1-day event for 100k SEK and Jonathan was one of them.
J:Yeah and well, it didn't go that well. But that can happen ofcourse, when you play a game with so many good and talented players
MI: This is a skill-based game right? Tell us more...
J: Exactly
MI: What is the goal of the game?
J: The goal is to win against your opponent, to crush him.. (grin). No but really, it's a strategy-game from Blizzard, who have done strategy-games since.. a really long time, they at SC1 that was a huge game i South Korea and finally they released the sequel after about 12 years. SC2 has grown by a huge amount since it was released last year.
FI: For those who don't know what Starcraft is, what would you say to enlighten us?
J: It's a strategy game, I guess you could describe it as a mixture between playing chess and piano at the same time, since you think alot and have good handspeed.
MI: Mhm... Here's some footage, yeah, some in-game footage..
J: Yeah, it looks like it's Idra vs MC or possibly Morrow vs MC..
MI: Ok, so people were watching i live last night?
J: Yes, Kulturhuset (the venue) was sold out so it was really nice.
FI: Does these things happen regularly for you? Travelling around and playing the game in front of a crowd?...
J: Oh yeah, almost atleast once a month we're travelling somewhere. When I'm home in Korea there's a really big league I'm competing it that I only have to travel for a few minutes to reach. Else we travel to the US for MLG or to Sweden for Dreamhack, there's Germany for IEM and South Korea for GSL so there are a big event almost every week.
There's alot of travelling... alot of it...
MI: And you make a living out of this?
J: Certainly, I get travelling/accomodations-expenses paid for, I get housing paid and also a salary, everything.
MI: To play games, yes?
J: Exactly
MI: How come you got so good at SC2?
J: Well, I've been playing since... well forever! I've been wanting to be a progamers since SC1 when I was 13.
MI: You said you wanted to be what?
J: Progamer in SC1, that was prequel to SC2.
MI: Ah, ok!
J: That was really hard though, to move to South Korea at such a young age.. Back then Starcraft was really only big in South Korea. I tried for abit though, but had to give up my dream when I was about 17. I played poker for about 2 years and then Starcraft 2 was released. I thought about it and decided to give my childhood dream one last shot!
MI: And you've been doing well!
J: Yeah, I made it!
MI: Would you say you are top5 in the world or where would you put yourself on that list?
J: Myeaeah, it varies so much... I would say... well... it really depends on my current form and shape that day.. Looking at the last month, to say it frankly, I've been really bad.
FI: When you say you've been playing bad, why is that, how do you feel about it?
J: It varies from player to player, but for me, when I lose motivation and focus I feel that my play suffers really quickly. But when I get "the drive" so to speak I find my high level of play again equally as quick as I lose it... So yeah, at this moment, I'm not top5, 2 months ago though, top5!
MI: Ok, and in a week top3?
J: Let us hope so!
MI: How much of the game is luck?
J: There is a small bit of luck. It's not like chess where you have full overview of the playing field. You can only see parts of the whole map at once, so there's still luck but not much. It's nothing like poker where you have 50/50-scenarios appearing every so often.
MI: So experience and knowledge of the game is more important?
J: Exactly, you have a much greater edge over your opponent in SC2 than in many other games.
FI: You live in Korea now, how important has it been moving there?
J: When I moved there last summer, there wasn't many foreign leagues at all. In Korea they had already launched a huge league with $80k prize for the winner and $25k for the runner-up.. and some for third and fourth etc.. it totalled far above $100k every month.
Basically we moved there to play in that league. It didn't start out that well, I failed the first two qualifiers, it felt really bad. Then I went to a tournament in the US, I won that one! I followed up by qualifying to the very next GSL and finished top 4 in that one. I won ~$8k. (MI expresses "That's exciting!") And then the next GSL, top4 AGAIN! and I was like "Wow, things are working out REALLY well now"
MI: This sounds a bit like hockey and similar sports, if you're good enough, you get to travel and compete with the best!
J: Hmm, I wouldn't say hockey since there the leagues are abit more local/national (refers to NHL/Swedish Elitserien). I'd rather say it's like being something like a boxer.
MI: Ah yeah, travelling to big events.
J: Exactly.. And now that I think about it, I guess you could compare it to football and sports alike, travelling for games away from home.
MI: Would you say that this is a game that is exclusive to nerds and people who just drinks red-bull and coca cola and never manages to wake up in a decent hour?
J: Haha well, I never wake up on a decent hour, but I certainly don't live on red bull and coke. It varies, some players are really healthy and some players aren't. It's comparable to anything else in life actually. SC2 has reached out to a wide spectrum of people nowadays, it isn't the niche it once was with the stereotypical nerd you just described. It has alot wider spectrum of people playing than that. Especially in South Korea with the long history with the game, there you can find all kinds of people from different parts of the society that knows about the games or plays themselves.
MI: Oh, it's like a lifestyle.. FI: When you are playing a game like you are playing SC2, can you feel the urge to develop your own game or do parts of it in some other way?
J: Sometimes you think stuff like "I could do that better" or something similar, but then again I know that they have such a long experience creating games... Maybe it's something to pursue in the future but for now it's all about gaming!
FI: Maybe you should keep those ideas for the future then!
J: Yeah, there's a few gamers out there who later on became game designers. For example the one who is employed by Blizzard in the balance team, he's a former SC/WC-gamer. What I'm saying is that it's not something that's unheard of.
FI: When are you playing your next game?
J: Hmm, I leave for Korea in a few hours. Then in about a week I'm playing in the GSL again.
MI: Will you get your revenge against MC? The bad guy that won DHI
J: We'll see about that, I have a tough group that I have to get past first.. A really tough group! It has top4 GSL finishers aswell as a former GSL winner.
FI: You'll have to get out of your slump now!
MI: Sounds like the Stanely Cup!
J: One game at a time.
FI: Big thank you for coming here, hope you'll get through the group!
On April 13 2011 17:21 Kentakky wrote: For those in Sweden that missed him on Nyhetsmorgon.. Don't know if outside countries can watch but it's in swedish as well. Someone go translate if it's interesting haven't watched it yet. Need to sleep worked all night ^___^
He was on radio just now on "P3 populär" in à 5 min interview, I'll make an effort to translate both, expect translations about an hour
To the international crowd: P3 is one of swedens largest nationwide radiostations.
The owners (Swedish radio AB) annual report "[P3] is swedens largest station in the age group 20–34 years. In the stations main target group the daily listeners is about 21%. Looking at the whole population, the station reaches almost 11% on a daily basis..."
Just watched the tv4play vod. Dang Jinro looking good representing e-sports in mainstream media. I could easily see sc2 on TV1 or TV2 in Sweden. non-profit government owned TV channels designed to reach out to minorities. Perfect fit.
Ok, translation/transcript of the Nyhetsmorgon interview up, a few posts up. I hope it's ok and if you find any obvious flaws in grammar/wording/whatever you can think up, be sure to post it!
On April 13 2011 17:52 Chollx wrote: He was on radio just now on "P3 populär" in à 5 min interview, I'll make an effort to translate both, expect translations about an hour¨
Would you say that this is a game that is exclusive to nerds and people who just drinks red-bull and coca cola and never manages to wake up in a decent hour?
If only my parents felt this way about me playing videogames. I play them to relax, but still, if my parents at least were cool about it, I would be a little more relaxed to begin with.
Jinro is my favorite Terran pro out there. GO JINRO
That family picture with Jinro and his parents is one of the best photos I saw in a long while. From a photographer's perspective it is near perfection. Although there is no such thing as a perfect picture.
BTW daily 2 flights from IST to ICN korea, searched, both on-schedule. Jinro said flight delay then these guys're gonna take IST via some city to korea??
On April 15 2011 01:03 shappens wrote: BTW daily 2 flights from IST to ICN korea, searched, both on-schedule. Jinro said flight delay then these guys're gonna take IST via some city to korea??
What's happening?
Stockholm - Istanbul was delayed, so we missed Istanbul - Korea T_T
That interview was pretty nice. Much better than they could have made it (they have a tendency to slaughter minor/niche things in the media sometimes). I might actually show this to both my parents and grandparents to give a bit of perspective.
Jinro: Thats not good. :S Just as a thought, may I suggest Finnair as an alternative? It would be a stockholm-helsinki-seoul trip. My parents do that sort of trip a lot and have come to that conclusion anyway. Just did the trip myself, very smooth (apart from a few hours wait in helsinki on the way to asia).
On April 16 2011 23:05 h41fgod wrote: That interview was pretty nice. Much better than they could have made it (they have a tendency to slaughter minor/niche things in the media sometimes). I might actually show this to both my parents and grandparents to give a bit of perspective.
Jinro: Thats not good. :S Just as a thought, may I suggest Finnair as an alternative? It would be a stockholm-helsinki-seoul trip. My parents do that sort of trip a lot and have come to that conclusion anyway. Just did the trip myself, very smooth (apart from a few hours wait in helsinki on the way to asia).
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Life's so good.
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C I'll go to school then. Stupid TV4... Hope the VoD gets up soon.
