I automatically assume something is wrong with OP when there is a biased poll. Its actually a good way to filter math threads in TL.

I have 34% mirror match ups. OH SNAP

xenogis

United States63 Posts

April 10 2011 19:10 GMT

#86

For me, according to SC2gears which I've been using for 3 months, I get 40% PvP, 40% PvZ, and 20% PvT (out of 330 games). It seems like something in the matchmaking system is off, maybe I'm just unlucky, maybe terran is just played less. It would be cool if they made the system intentionally even out the % you play each race.

EDIT: bleh just read the OP fully instead of skimming it, didn't realize this thread was about random players, i play protoss...

Klive5ive

United Kingdom6056 Posts

April 10 2011 19:14 GMT

#87

This thread is about random not about other races.

Random numbers are never actually "random" for computers so it's not inconceivable that there's something slightly wrong for random players.

NintendoStar

United States217 Posts

April 10 2011 19:20 GMT

#88

As a protoss player, I play about

30% PvP
50% PvZ
20% PvT

Barbiero

Brazil5259 Posts

April 10 2011 19:24 GMT

#89

<edit>
nvm misunterdood the OP..

Tristy

Norway172 Posts

April 10 2011 19:25 GMT

#90

Im a zerg player and I get a very high percentage of ZvZ's a fair amount of ZvP and barely any ZvT's at all.

Bibbit

Canada5377 Posts

April 10 2011 19:25 GMT

#91

Unfortunately I switch between races (including random) a ton so I cant actually give my exact numbers but I have found that I hit more mirrors as random. The last string of games I played as random a few months ago, I hit 7 mirrors in a row including 2 RvRs where we both got the same race. D:

Edit: So I cant give numbers for random but I can do each race I guess.

80 ZvZs, 81 ZvPs, 66 ZvTs
102 TvZs, 102 TvPs, 69 TvTs
170 PvZs, 171 PvPs, 136 PvTs

So no real inclination towards mirrors on my end, and overall the least games vs Terran with very even numbers of games vs Zerg and Vs Protoss. This pretty much perfectly reflects the distribution of races at my level.

Source: Sc2ranks.com

Marradron

Netherlands1586 Posts

April 10 2011 19:26 GMT

#92

Also most people feel they encounter mirrors more often since they hate playing them and thus remember the experience.

magha

Netherlands427 Posts

April 10 2011 19:28 GMT

#93

Funny, I thought it was just a coincidence. I think troughout the week about 50% of my games have been ZvZ whereas previous season it was like 20% I think. I figured it was just because more Zerg players started playing again with the new season/patch.
However, my friend, who plays Protoss, also said most of his games were PvP. We both have pretty much the same rating and play around the same time on the same server so this was really weird.
Now I read this thread and I really think there has to be something wrong with the matchmaking system or something.

Treadmill

Canada2833 Posts

April 10 2011 19:28 GMT

#94

On April 11 2011 04:14 Klive5ive wrote:
This thread is about random not about other races.

Random numbers are never actually "random" for computers so it's not inconceivable that there's something slightly wrong for random players.

Except that it is extremely unlikely that whatever way they calculate the race to use for a random player takes into account the opponent's race. This is probably just a result of poor sample size and confirmation bias.

Hopeless1der

United States5836 Posts

April 10 2011 19:29 GMT

#95

On April 11 2011 04:26 Marradron wrote:
Also most people feel they encounter mirrors more often since they hate playing them and thus remember the experience.

Thats why the OP said to use SC2Gears to verify that your last 10 or 20 or 50 games are in fact mirrors. He's trying to get statistical data to back up his claims and a lot of people are just shitting all over him for trying to get some help.

shinarit

Hungary900 Posts

April 10 2011 19:30 GMT

#96

On April 11 2011 04:14 Klive5ive wrote:
Random numbers are never actually "random" for computers so it's not inconceivable that there's something slightly wrong for random players.

Yeah, pseudo-random is much more evenly distributed than real random... So it would be surprising to find anything wrong with it... though we dont know the exact algorithm (or at least i dont, point me somewhere if i can find it there, straight from Blizz possibly).

Joseph123

Bulgaria1144 Posts

April 10 2011 19:31 GMT

#97

as protoss i get PvP 60% of the time

DestroManiak

257 Posts

April 10 2011 19:32 GMT

#98

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law

quoted posts = read more often

FroZen(-_-)

United States183 Posts

April 10 2011 19:33 GMT

#99

I think all the races are just playing each other, concluding in nobody playing different races @_@

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

April 10 2011 19:39 GMT

#100

So many things are wrong with this thread and the posts in reply to it...so much bias compounded with wrong inferences made from wrong assumptions.

1.) you start with the assumption that the proportion of players near your MMR who play each race is equal (i.e. 1/3 P, Z, T) when there is no evidence that actually supports this.

2.) You then extrapolate from your sample size of 88 (which others have pointed out already is too small) that a 44% mirror matchup rate is "too high" without even knowing if 1.) is true.

3.) Finally, your solution is to figure out the answer to your question by asking a poll that is begging to churn out an extremely biased result. The vast majority of the people who replied didn't read the whole thread or even understand the title, judging from the number of players who have responded who don't play random. In addition, mirror matchups carry a psychological bias; just look at the number of people who hate PvP and ZvZ (and thus are more prone to feel like they play more mirrors than normal)

The amount of anecdotal evidence being thrown around in this thread is pretty hilarious too. "I'd say I get 50% mirror and 25 PvZ and 25 PvT" lol wtf?