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On April 11 2011 02:11 KaiserJohan wrote:
Why is -Everyone- playing Protoss now? Honestly I have sooo much TvP's its amazing.
I thought with HT nerf people would leave protoss instead.
I like it though, less mirrors the better.
Just flavour of the month. Now MC is dominating everyone is just trying to 4gate or 6gate their way into higher leagues. Just as in the terran time everyone was scv allining every game.
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On April 11 2011 02:06 Marradron wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 02:03 Gnax wrote:
Hmm I am curious about one thing. Maybe some of the math geniuses here can answer.
Lets say 91% of the player base plays Protoss, 3% plays Zerg, 3% plays Terran and 3% plays Random.
Is there still 33% chance that you get a mirror match up when you play as random? Ofcourse not. Theres more protoss players queueing. Thuss the chance of meeting protoss will be 91 procent.
That doesn't answer the question one bit. I didn't ask what the chances of playing against protoss is. Try again.
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i'm leaning towards coincidence, but i've been experiencing a lot of mirrors and zerg players. like 45/45/10 protoss/zerg/terran. maybe there are just less terran at my current level?
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I play a lot of non-mirror match-ups (lots of TvZ usually). It has recently balanced more recently, though.
Remember that few of the unaffected people will be posting about how they haven't had many mirror matches, while most that do, will.
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I get a lot of PvPs.
and lol @ PvP
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On April 11 2011 01:03 Kujawa wrote:
i too have seen alot of mirrors. I dont think there is something bugged with the matchmaking system. If there is i would be shocked.
The amount of mirror is just absurd tho. Maybe they need to rethink their random system.
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This is the worst case of confirmation bias I have ever seen.
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I've barely played any mirrors in the past few days. Its really weird.
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3-4 ZvZ today, nothing else. Same thing yesterday.
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On April 11 2011 02:02 NinjaDrone wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 01:43 NikonTC wrote:
flipped a coin four times and got heads three times. that's 75% in favour of heads :/ shouldn't it be around 50% heads and 50% tails? I think there's something wrong with universal physics. has anyone else been experiencing this?
*poll* Many of you completely missed the point of the post. I know my sample size is too small, that's why I asked for statistical information from other random players to increase my sample size. Seriously, you all need to read before you make obvious comments. All I want is how many games random players have had as mirrors and how many games they've had as non-mirrors.
If the comments were so obvious to you, you never would of made this thread because you would of realized that:
1 - you won't be getting an unbiased sample
2 - you won't get a decent sample size
3 - you would realize Blizzard already makes these analyses
4 - you would of performed a search and seen these threads already existed on tl.
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ive played a shit ton of PvP the last week
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8 of my last 20 games as random have been mirrors. This is 40%. Its my belief that I get more mirrors than the 33% that should be standard. As I do more games I will keep a record.
3 mirrors vs Z
3 P and 2 T
I dislike mirrors but thats not reall on topic 
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i actually enjoy playing mirrors. helps me know if my macro is falling behind
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On April 11 2011 02:06 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 01:41 Zocat wrote:On April 11 2011 01:26 Noocta wrote:
Mirrors are a resultut of map veto sometimes.
Each races veto somes maps the other races don't. That's assuming it is: "Look at available maps then decide an opponent" and not "Look at available opponents, then decide a map". Hum, i don't know about this to be honest. Do someone know or it's blizzard privacy ?
To my knowledge nothing specific is known.
From a progammers perspectiver I'd say the 2nd variant is faster / easier to implement (since there are 10 maps total, and only 6 can be vetoed by both players, that means at least 4 maps are available).
In teamgames a problem would arise though. (at least 4 players, each 3 vetoes -> 12 vetoed map in the worst case). Though there are still other options to implement it.
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On April 11 2011 02:22 REM.ca wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 02:02 NinjaDrone wrote:On April 11 2011 01:43 NikonTC wrote:
flipped a coin four times and got heads three times. that's 75% in favour of heads :/ shouldn't it be around 50% heads and 50% tails? I think there's something wrong with universal physics. has anyone else been experiencing this?
*poll* Many of you completely missed the point of the post. I know my sample size is too small, that's why I asked for statistical information from other random players to increase my sample size. Seriously, you all need to read before you make obvious comments. All I want is how many games random players have had as mirrors and how many games they've had as non-mirrors. If the comments were so obvious to you, you never would of made this thread because you would of realized that: 1 - you won't be getting an unbiased sample 2 - you won't get a decent sample size 3 - you would realize Blizzard already makes these analyses 4 - you would of performed a search and seen these threads already existed on tl.
1: Perhaps. Perhaps not. I figure people will on average will want to prove or disprove me equally.
2: Absolutely no evidence this will occur. There are over 14,000 active members on TL so it doesn't take many to get a significant sample size.
3: And what proof do you have of this? Please include links.
4: I did do a search. I could not find any thread discussing a potential problem with random players getting a disproportionate number of mirror match ups in season 2. If there is one then please provide the link.
How about people stop making comments with no basis in fact and instead disprove my claims with statistics (as a few have tried to do.) If you're a random and you haven't been seeing what I've been seeing then give me your stats and I'll incorporate them into my data.
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Got 8 ZvZ's in a row yesterday, got pissed and stopped playing 1v1.
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Right, checked the numbers, played 32 ladder games during season 2, 16 of those were mirrors. I was playing random, of course.
May be be within the margin of error, but annoying regardless.
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Just checked, my last 24 games of season 2 were 12 mirror matches, not that big of a diference, but still strange
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All I have noticed is a lot of Zergs. I think a lot of people decided to switch to zerg after the reset. At least in platinum.
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Blizzard matchmaking probably sees race as secondary. The most important thing to find a match fast, so it is more dependent on who is online than on the random function. I think you just get a random one from the ones that are waiting the longest in your skill rank. Maybe race is even tertiary in the selection process. (who is available, who is waiting the longest, then maybe race) Also a lot of people don't like mirrors and peopl tend to remember negative feelings better than positive ones.
In short: I don't believe blizzard is making us play more mirrors to annoy us.
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