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DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
April 10 2011 16:03 GMT
#21
It is low, but I've never ever ever had so much TvT in my life since post reset. I've been playing since beta and let me tell you TvT has ALWAYS been rare. Now all of a sudden it's more than TvZ and TvP combined?!?!?! I doubt that.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
April 10 2011 16:04 GMT
#22
What part of random chances don't you understand. Seeing someone complains that it doesn't seem random is the perfect proof it is. Most people have a proper division and the one that doesn't always complains. Get over it
-Mav-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States50 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 16:06:55
April 10 2011 16:06 GMT
#23
I'm a terran player, and I've only had about 3-4 tvts since reset, and I've played about 40 games.
Chinchillin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States259 Posts
April 10 2011 16:06 GMT
#24
I was gonna say I'm seeing way more zergs as a diamond terran... very odd I must say
Leenocktopus! InNoVation!
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
April 10 2011 16:09 GMT
#25
On April 11 2011 01:06 -Mav- wrote:
I'm a terran player, and I've only had about 3-4 tvts since reset, and I've played about 40 games.

If you're in Masters I'm getting all your TvT's for you.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
April 10 2011 16:10 GMT
#26
TLO plays less random for exactly this reason. He would always get mirrors, even in customs.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 10 2011 16:10 GMT
#27
So far (thanks, sc2gears!):
ZvZ: 43 Matches since Season 2, 222 since Season 1
ZvP: 50 Matches since Season 2, 267 since Season 1
ZvT: 24 Matches since Season 2, 137 since Season 1

If anything, this shows a surprising lack of Terrans out there, but no significant amount of mirror matchups.
Icx
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Belgium853 Posts
April 10 2011 16:12 GMT
#28
That isn't odd, just check the sc2 ranks race distribution.

If the numbers are correct, in basicly any league except the top for masters:

Protoss > Zerg >> Terran in terms of player numbers.

So if you currently play Protoss or Zerg or you random into one of those there is a very good chance you will be matched up with another protoss/zerg, terran's are just getting rare to play against.

So yes, I personally see a lot of mirror matchups, but that is basicly because in my games it's like 50% P, 40% Z, 10% T
Gnax
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden490 Posts
April 10 2011 16:14 GMT
#29
Why are so many people who don't even play random reply? OP made it pretty clear he was only talking about random players rolling the same race as their opponent more often.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 16:14:53
April 10 2011 16:14 GMT
#30
Since the 1.3 patch I have played 79 1v1 matches.
29 TvP
32 TvZ
18 TvT

Terran seem to be slightly underrepresented but that is probably just due to a small sample size. As far as I can see that matchmaking system is working correctly.
oblong
Profile Joined January 2011
United States86 Posts
April 10 2011 16:14 GMT
#31
On April 11 2011 00:45 ElusoryX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 00:43 Gnax wrote:
100% mirrors here.

you terran?

why do people still say shit like this? protoss is the most played race by a fairly large margin while terran sits at the bottom
REM.ca
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada354 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 16:22:21
April 10 2011 16:19 GMT
#32
On April 11 2011 01:02 Draz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 00:50 REM.ca wrote:
According to http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm, your sample size of 80 has a confidence interval of about 10-11% which means that 44% instead of 33% is actually within what should be expected (though admittedly at the extreme end).

You would need 350+ games to verify a confidence interval even as big as 5%. So come back here after 350+ games and if you're getting more than 38% mirrors, we'll talk.



LOL, This guy knows his stuff, gotta give him that. Your sample size is to low....you need a higher data point.


Not to mentin that the 33% predicted probability assumes equal chances of hitting Terran, Toss or Zerg. An assumption that might not hold true depeding on race distributions at his level.

IMO, this thread will go nowhere but people complaining about stuff they don't really understand and should be closed.
I have a palm permanently stuck to my face yo.
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
April 10 2011 16:20 GMT
#33
It could be broken for some people. I feel like there is actually a problem and I'd like to see if it actually is before people go dismissing it because they are not experiencing it.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
April 10 2011 16:24 GMT
#34
Definitely more zvz and zvp.
Where are all the terrans at?
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 10 2011 16:26 GMT
#35
Mirrors are a resultut of map veto sometimes.
Each races veto somes maps the other races don't.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
surraymb
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria114 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 16:31:39
April 10 2011 16:28 GMT
#36
I noticed the same thing, as did many people I played.
ZvZ all the time and it used to be much much less.

I actually made a topic about this a few days after the new season started but a moderator decided I was stupid and closed the thread.


Is it really so far fetched to consider that blizzard might have changed something in their matchmaking algorithm for season 2?
Ethic
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada439 Posts
April 10 2011 16:29 GMT
#37
I don't play random, but the ladder is giving me almost nothing but ZvZs .
SC2 ID: Ethic.791 - 1v1 DIAMOND - SHILOH UPSILON
Nyx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Rwanda460 Posts
April 10 2011 16:31 GMT
#38
On April 11 2011 01:26 Noocta wrote:
Mirrors are a resultut of map veto sometimes.
Each races veto somes maps the other races don't.


Yeah I think it's a combination of this and race distrubution between leagues, I have been playing an awful lot of ZvZs since the reset -_-'
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
April 10 2011 16:32 GMT
#39
I think during this season it has been like 40-50% PvP and the rest PvZ/PvT.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
April 10 2011 16:36 GMT
#40
My last 6 or so games have been all vs Z (I'm P). I haven't seen a terran in even longer.
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