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Jesushooves
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada553 Posts
March 24 2011 17:08 GMT
#121
The question is somewhat subjective in itself, mainly because a fair portion of top players do occasional commentating, incontrol, sheth, and gretorp come to mind (yes I know there are many others), but they aren't exactly "full-time" commentators.

Having said that there are very few commentators that can be declared as doing so full-time, at least for English speaking commentators, the only ones I think of that make a living off of it are Day9, Tasteless, Artosis, TotalBiscuit, Husky, HD, and maybe 10 more max that I have forgotten or don't know of. And we all know Artosis is the best out of those, although noone has really seen Day9 play.

To be fair though I don't really think you need to be a top 200 player to commentate, although some will disagree you can be pretty bad at the game and commentate it really well, a lot of bad players know they are bad because they have a good understanding of the game.

TL;DR, Artosis is the best, but it doesn't mean other casters are worse at commentating.
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
March 24 2011 17:12 GMT
#122
Gretorp
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Oneoldfogie
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom61 Posts
March 24 2011 17:13 GMT
#123
Does idrA count? He did some commentating once, sort of.
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
March 24 2011 17:13 GMT
#124
The best fulltime commentator has to be Artosis. Tasteless has to be good aswell because I remember that somebody said in an interview that idra would practice with tasteless for GSL.
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
March 24 2011 17:14 GMT
#125
On March 25 2011 00:42 Ohdamn wrote:
the answer is artosis.


I'd say the same, people underestimate him I think.
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blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
March 24 2011 17:16 GMT
#126
If you don't count people like INcontrol, it is definately Artosis. It would be amazing if Day9 started playing hardcore again though
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
March 24 2011 17:16 GMT
#127
artosis by far, but id imagine if day9 actually started playing for real he'd get really good really fast.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 17:17:23
March 24 2011 17:17 GMT
#128
artosis/day9/tasteless

I think HDStarcraft would do amazing if he actually was dedicated to just playing.
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adrenaLinG
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada676 Posts
March 24 2011 17:17 GMT
#129
Artosis is like the Alton Brown of Starcraft, he's like a living, breathing Liquipedia.
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Rareware
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada340 Posts
March 24 2011 17:18 GMT
#130
Well I'm going to go with Artosis as well. He trains on the Korean server and is very committed to the game.
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Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 17:19:55
March 24 2011 17:19 GMT
#131
Artosis. Day9 has beaten him in BW, I'm sure if he was as focused on playing as Artosis (probably is) they would be pretty close.

On March 25 2011 02:17 adrenaLinG wrote:
Artosis is like the Alton Brown of Starcraft, he's like a living, breathing Liquipedia.


Perfectly put.
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darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
March 24 2011 17:22 GMT
#132
Artosis
AJ-
Profile Joined April 2010
United States316 Posts
March 24 2011 17:22 GMT
#133
gretorp and artosis take my vote
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
March 24 2011 17:24 GMT
#134
Combat-Ex

Yes, I'm wearing my troll face.

Artosis, for sure.
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
March 24 2011 17:27 GMT
#135
I have never seen a replay from Tasteless but he is apparently Master Korean and I have yet to see anything that points out that Artosis>Tasteless (or the opposite). Tasteless is ment to do the play by play...
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bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
March 24 2011 17:49 GMT
#136
On March 25 2011 02:27 Eppa! wrote:
I have never seen a replay from Tasteless but he is apparently Master Korean and I have yet to see anything that points out that Artosis>Tasteless (or the opposite). Tasteless is ment to do the play by play...


The only information that we have on Tasteless is that he always opens with Stargate if he sees a Techlab on first Barracks in PvT (one of the many Tasteless builds), and he wins with this 100% of the time (according to the GSTL cast yesterday). If this is true, then he probably has 75%+ winrate in PvT and is top of the Korean ladder.... wait...... what?
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majestouch
Profile Joined December 2010
United States395 Posts
March 24 2011 17:55 GMT
#137
depends who you consider a caster.
regardless i believe day9 is probally the best allaround. his theory is one of the highest in sc2, and he still is able to play enough to not let his mechanics get rusty.
i would estimate day9 is around 3900-4k points on all of his accounts (z,t,p)

artosis has insanely good theory, however, he is so tied up that he barely has time to practice (therefore not his best mechanics), his CURRENT mmr places him against 3700-3800 players on ladder but you have to remember the american ladder is a cheese fest and the difficult part of getting say top 200 is because you have to wade through so much fucking cheese. especially if you're zerg LOL.

jp is a 3500 masters as random which is actually quite decent seeing that he has no rts background afaik

i don't count incontrol, gretorp etc.
Tiax;mous
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
669 Posts
March 24 2011 18:00 GMT
#138
Looks like it's just a guessing game eh? I mean I think no one saw Day9 , Artosis ( maybe a few games of him ) , Tasteless etc for a long time as far as I know.

Still I guess it's Artosis , it looks like he's still trying his best in his limited time , trying to get into Code A and stuff...
Armsved
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark642 Posts
March 24 2011 18:02 GMT
#139
Incontrol obviously
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Mercadia
Profile Joined December 2010
United States257 Posts
March 24 2011 18:02 GMT
#140
Artosis for sure. If Gretorp/incontrol are in the pool also then they're all pretty close with Gretorp in the lead imo. I agree with everything majestouch said above me (strangely I think I just posted something like this in another thread).

Artosis crushes T all ins pretty handily so I'm sure he'll be way higher in MMR as soon as he gets a good session in.

I didn't know jp was 3500 masters, that's pretty sick.
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