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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 24 2011 18:29 GMT
#161
artosis is pretty good.
reprise
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada316 Posts
March 24 2011 18:29 GMT
#162
On March 25 2011 03:22 Peekaboo wrote:
Artosis is way better than Day9, unless Day 9 has improved immensely. Qualifying for the GSL proved he is a top 1% player. Day 9 took a very long time to get into diamond (I remember him mentioning finally getting into diamond) when he was practicing with the likes of Jinro. Check the Day 9 archives.


-- day9 vs Tasteless matches in beta.

Day 9 has master's level mechanics and obviously great game knowledge, but in the heat of the game his decision making is poor. And he also seems to have a love for bad compositions he thinks are cool and playing random. So he's more interested in having fun than making a run for pro.



How is Artossis "way better" than someone you've only seen play in the beta? And the whole "finally getting into diamond" is because of not having enough time to play. Do you really think someone who's been A on iccup and pgtour is not able to play SC2?

Also, using beta videos for proof isn't really legitimate proof. Look at any other video from the beta, everyone was pretty bad by today's standards, even the pros.
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Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 18:36:23
March 24 2011 18:29 GMT
#163
On March 25 2011 03:04 Elefanto wrote:
Artosis, made it into GSL 1, and was pretty close to make it to other GSLs.
He's the only one you somewhat know what he's capable right now.

Day9 is a mistery, i can't believe how many are saying it's him, no one saw him play. Fanboyism at its best.


I dont believe its fanboyism you dont have to see someone play to have a pretty sound base for a argument for that player. We know day9 was a good player in sc, we know hes a master lvl player in sc2. We know he plays random which usually gives you a better understanding of the game then just playing one race. As a caster he seems the most knowledgeable. Now since artosis seems to be the only runner up.

You look at the facts we know about him. Got into gsl 1 and came close a couple other times.(not to mention he made it into gsl 1 when the actual league round of 64 and on was terrible games for the most part) However that was all with zerg he has recently switched to protoss. Which everyone knows will decrease your playing level for quite some time because all the small intricacies of a class takes the longest to learn. So we really dont know his skill level anymore.

So imo between the 2...it'll come down to what races day9 gets vs artosis if they did a best of 5. If he gets zerg it will be in favor of artosis imo since he knows exactly what works vs zerg. however ever any otehr race would lean to day9 and it just depends how good artosis got with prot


Tasteless' skill is also unknown but i assume he's bad cause of his limited build / strategic knowledge when commentating.


not to mention his bias towards rushing
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 24 2011 18:31 GMT
#164
On March 25 2011 03:22 Peekaboo wrote:
Artosis is way better than Day9, unless Day 9 has improved immensely. Qualifying for the GSL proved he is a top 1% player. Day 9 took a very long time to get into diamond (I remember him mentioning finally getting into diamond) when he was practicing with the likes of Jinro. Check the Day 9 archives.


This is misleading. He got into diamond late because after the countdown party he couldn't even play for like a week because he was so busy. He started playing and I'm assuming the same thing happened to him that happened to every other high level diamond player from beta(which he was): he went on huge winning streaks and took forever to get promoted. I happen to know for a fact that he was in the top 200 in NA around the time the game came out.
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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
March 24 2011 18:31 GMT
#165
Artosis probably has the best current skill level.. but if Day played serious, I think he has more potential when he is in game shape. Day was pretty solid back in the day.

Tasteless wasnt ever really in either of their leagues imo
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zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
March 24 2011 18:35 GMT
#166
Gisado.
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andrewnguyener
Profile Joined March 2011
United States548 Posts
March 24 2011 18:36 GMT
#167
I would def say Artosis too. I heard that Tasteless beat Day9, and Husky is just a Diamond level player. No disrespect to any of them.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 24 2011 18:38 GMT
#168
On March 25 2011 03:35 zere wrote:
Gisado.

If we're counting the Koreans, I'd take a blind guess and say Daezang because he was a pretty successful progamer at one point. I think Gisado was a pro once upon a time but I think I heard he wasn't good at all...
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OldBamboo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States42 Posts
March 24 2011 18:43 GMT
#169
Day is getting his M.S. in Math, right? That takes one heck of a self-disciplined mind.

I think the question is: Does Day9 have the talent to use with his genius brain and become a dominant sc2 gamer. If he can't execute all of the brilliant ideas/strategies he comes up with, then he'll be limited in how far he can go.
Ushio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada868 Posts
March 24 2011 18:48 GMT
#170
On March 25 2011 00:45 FOUTWENTYSIXTY wrote:
Husky for sure.


Are you some kind of troll?
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fds
Profile Joined February 2011
Slovenia258 Posts
March 24 2011 18:52 GMT
#171
the only way to solve this problem:

artosis vs day9
bo5

Is is possible to organise this legendary match?
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
March 24 2011 18:52 GMT
#172
Artosis!
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 24 2011 18:56 GMT
#173
Artosis has a great deal of theoretical skill, yet I don't really see that translate into tournament results aside from some of the Beta events and the GSL1 Ro64. I'm sure he would become a fantastic player if he had more time to practice and participate in events as a player, but right now his current physical skill isn't too impressive.

I think TLO is currently the commentator with the highest play skill level. His commentating with Rotterdam at the IEM finals was both informative and entertaining, and he continues to be a crazy-good Random player in many current tournaments. Unlike other commentators, TLO is in-form and still produces great results despite not commentating as much.
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BRaegO
Profile Joined November 2010
United States243 Posts
March 24 2011 19:00 GMT
#174
Artosis
Day9
TLO (was really really good at IEM imho)
Sheth
Psy
IdrA
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david.oh.k
Profile Joined March 2011
United States92 Posts
March 24 2011 19:03 GMT
#175
On March 25 2011 00:42 faulty wrote:
I'd say Artosis, but just because I've seen him play recently (relatively speaking)

EDIT: I have a feeling that once Day9 graduates he'll be showing his true colors :D

When does day[9] graduate? Is that why he isn't in the competitive scene? I thought that he just didn't want to be.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
March 24 2011 19:03 GMT
#176
Artosis and Day9 at the very top. I couldn't say which one is the best. Then there's the rest of the people below them.

And there are a lot of bad commentators
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dolpiff
Profile Joined June 2010
France300 Posts
March 24 2011 19:04 GMT
#177
its gotta be painuser or artosis for me
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 19:05:55
March 24 2011 19:04 GMT
#178
Artosis. Day9 I doubt even plays any more. People need to get a reality check and realize the guy doesn't play that much and it shows in his commentary. Artosis on the other hand is easily high masters.
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Oproer
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands108 Posts
March 24 2011 19:05 GMT
#179
How would you guys rate someone like Painuser or Adebisi?
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Predateur
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada79 Posts
March 24 2011 19:07 GMT
#180
Artosis !

He's always improving, Altought I didn't liked the passive style he used in the video showing him trying to qualify for GSL vs a terran who went mass Thor, he's a good player and knows what he is talking about.

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