Which commentator has the highest play skill level - Page 10

On March 25 2011 04:00 BRaegO wrote:
Artosis
Day9
TLO (was really really good at IEM imho)
Sheth
Psy
IdrA

On March 25 2011 03:43 OldBamboo wrote:
Day is getting his M.S. in Math, right? That takes one heck of a self-disciplined mind.

I think the question is: Does Day9 have the talent to use with his genius brain and become a dominant sc2 gamer. If he can't execute all of the brilliant ideas/strategies he comes up with, then he'll be limited in how far he can go.

On March 25 2011 01:23 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote:
Exciting by saying that it's over?

They're all the time 'Yeah, we could pretend that it's not over to make it more exciting, but he actually has 0% chance of coming back'. -> comes back.

On March 25 2011 01:23 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote:
I expect him to not say 'There is 0% chance of him coming back, trust me guys, this game is over, some of you noobs might think at home 'But what if he ...', but no, it's actually over.' And then he comes back.

On March 25 2011 01:23 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote:
It's not hard to get that right 99% of the time and he'smore like 95%.

Recognising when a game is totally over is quite easy actually, people do it all the time on ladder, without third person view even, it's when they gg.

On March 25 2011 01:23 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote:
Watch the teamleague, MC versus SlayersWhatshisname. He said 'there is 0% chance this nexus is going to live', MC ends up holding it off very easily and watching it I was like 'Nahh, that nexus is going to survive very easily.'.

On March 25 2011 01:23 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote:
No, vikings are decent on the ground because they do 12 dps on the ground (1 armour redux) and do 10 dps in the air versus unarmoured and 14 versus armoured, both getting double armour reduction.

Vikings are for instance actually on equal footing with stalkers on the ground, which wins in equal numbers depends on target acquisition and concave. And yes, Vikings are more expensive, but they can fly away, stalkers can't. Vikings are by no means 'terrible' on the ground. Also, stalkers receive a penalty versus unarmoured units, vikings do not. 8 vikings beat 16 marines on the ground hands down, some green vikings left, only one dies in unit tester. However 8 stalkers versus 16 marines again depends on random target acquisition who comes out ahead.

PsY knows this and pointed it out in a video. I once made a thread here about this situation, my hypothesis is that the viking attack animation looks weak, and therefore it gives people the subconscious idea that it is weak. (not to mention that few people actually land them).

If you think that Vikings are terrible on the ground I have some doubts about your own understanding of the game and by extension ability to judge that of others, there is neither a statistical nor an empirical justification for this. They perform similarly to stalkers against armoured targets and a lot better against unarmoured targets on the ground, well worth the extra 25/25 price tag for their ability to lift off and fly away.

Artosis however is very good in making it appear he knows a lot by just talking analytical all the time, quite often he's also wrong or is really prone to 'hipster reasoning' ("I love what he's doing, because it's never been done before!") Let's face it, the guy loves every protoss who doesn't go 2base colossus, not because it's not that good (he's desperately trying to find a justification why it's bad, kind of ironical since he called the unit imbalanced and overpowered), but simply because it's trite and everyone does it.

Also, back at the beginning of GSL 5 he didn't even know why you would get armour against terran as protoss, he wasn't sure how to explain that San got armour first, surely this is the standard and people have figured this out months ago?

On March 25 2011 04:08 HRSA wrote:


Is that in some kind of order?

And top would definitely be Artosis, assuming you're not counting IdrA or TLO as commentators.

On March 25 2011 04:11 BRaegO wrote:



No particular order I guess, I enjoy them all. Artosis being #1 should be a given though imo.

On March 25 2011 03:13 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote:
I want you to go and read my post again (or the rest of the thread) and realize how much you failed reading properly, then realize it doesn't matter and we all make mistakes and that there is no shame in admitting 'Oh, okay, I misread, sorry', and go on with your life.

Would you do that for me?