• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:34
CET 22:34
KST 06:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage0Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION3
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting RSL S3 Round of 16 [TLCH] Mission 7: Last Stand Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Monday Nights Weeklies SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review RSL S3 ro16 [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions SnOw on 'Experimental' Nonstandard Maps in ASL Finding world war 2 allied hope / final players?
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
AI is so fuckin funny
Peanutsc
Challenge: Maths isn't all…
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1142 users

Which commentator has the highest play skill level

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 22 23 24 Next All
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 15:43:03
March 24 2011 15:40 GMT
#1
Note: For SKILL level I mean individual playing skills not commentating skills. Please don't start some "XXX is better than XXX" commentator fanboy wars / dick measuring contests...

I know there are many up and coming SC2 commentators who upload vods etc but I usually find the ones who play best as the most credible ones since they have skills to back it up instead of being like an arm-chair general. IdrA was really good when he's substituting Tastosis during Blizzcon and even though he wasn't as eloquent as other casters his words+commentaries seem to weigh 1000x heavier due to his reputation and skill level.

I realize Artosis is pretty good since he qualified for the 1st GSL. But I reckon Day9 should pretty good due to his analytical skills and winning WCG USA 2005 (thought it was a long time and I haven't seen Day9's SC2 replays besides the BETA showmatch).

Or Psy? I saw him beating Piqliq before.

Chill was really good in Broodwar but I haven't seen him upload SC2 tutorial videos

Really want to look for more skilled casters. Plz name the strongest one...
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
faulty
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada204 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 15:52:08
March 24 2011 15:42 GMT
#2
I'd say Artosis, but just because I've seen him play recently (relatively speaking)

EDIT: I have a feeling that once Day9 graduates he'll be showing his true colors :D
"More gg, more skill" - White-Ra
Ohdamn
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany765 Posts
March 24 2011 15:42 GMT
#3
the answer is artosis.
"If you can chill....chill!"
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
March 24 2011 15:43 GMT
#4
Artosis is quite good. Dunno about Day9 but he won a wcg so he's prolly good too.
PsY is decent, beating Piqliq is not really an achievement.
Dunno about tasteless, he's prolly better than Psy, but nothign special either I guess.
Chill is low masters I believe.
ShinyGerbil
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada519 Posts
March 24 2011 15:45 GMT
#5
it depends on who you consider a commentator. Gretorp and iNcontroL are very strong players but they aren't as committed to commentating as artosis. However, PsY and Artosis are perhaps the strongest players who are also top commentators. Day9 is a total dark horse, nobody knows what his real skill level is at so I wouldn't even bother discussing that.
[s]savior[/s] jaedong fighting! // member of LighT eSports
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
March 24 2011 15:45 GMT
#6
I think like many others said the answer is pretty obvious, Artosis!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
March 24 2011 15:45 GMT
#7
Probably Artosis, though none of the commentators have any real results.
the farm ends here
FOUTWENTYSIXTY
Profile Joined November 2010
89 Posts
March 24 2011 15:45 GMT
#8
Husky for sure.
Resolve
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore679 Posts
March 24 2011 15:45 GMT
#9
I don't think Day9 has shown any SC2 results. He's probably busy with other stuff to play too much. I hope he plays ladder or something in one of his dailys FPVOD ftw! If I'm wrong please let me know where to see his games :D
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
March 24 2011 15:45 GMT
#10
Day9 and Artosis are obviously the best ones, with Artosis probably being better than Day9 since he attends University.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
March 24 2011 15:46 GMT
#11
Artosis.
Deapht
Profile Joined October 2010
101 Posts
March 24 2011 15:47 GMT
#12
incontrol and artosisis
Silmakuoppaanikinko
Profile Joined November 2010
799 Posts
March 24 2011 15:47 GMT
#13
Define 'commentator'? a lot of pros have commentated on the side, TLO, IdrA, PainUser...

And skill is not monodimensional, for instance, Day9 is not the best in a straight up match but his understanding of the game is very good, same for PsY, he really understands a lot of this game, more than most full time pros who just play by feeling it seems. Artosis and Tasteless on the other hand, though probably both better players than PsY have downright terrible understanding of the game ("No way he can save this nexus" -> saves nexus, "This is gg in any minute now." -> games goes on for 30 more minutes, "vikings are terrible on the ground" -> vikings land and obliterate everything) I always found it humorous when people diss Kelly for her lack of understanding, but Tastosis make so many bad calls each match.

The guy I'd personally recomment for learning from is PsY though, just slightly better than Day[9] who often tries to sugar-coat and fills his hour up with trivial nonsense from time to time.
Workers and town centres are the ultimate counter to turtles.
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 15:48:40
March 24 2011 15:47 GMT
#14
Quite surprised of people saying Artosis oversince Artosis said Day9 is his biggest rival. You guys seem to imply that Artosis can wipe the floor with Day9 in a Bo5

Edit: NVM I didn't know Day9 attends school. So Artosis def. has more practice hours than him...
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
March 24 2011 15:47 GMT
#15
I would imagine its Artosis, closely followed by maybe day9 and tasteless, then chill maybe?

I think when day9 starts competing again (he said on SotG he intends to once school is over) he will probably be the best, he already promised to continue knocking artosis out of every tournament they play ;p

I assume there are less well known casters out there who are top players, and there are top players like iNcontrol who cast, and I guess if you include those, iNc or gretorp are prolly the best, simply because i can't think of anyone else who plays at the pro level and casts on the side... most of them cast and play on the side.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
gr8ape
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada302 Posts
March 24 2011 15:47 GMT
#16
Not Husky
Not Hdstarcraft
Not Jp
Not DJwheat
Dubpace
Profile Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
March 24 2011 15:47 GMT
#17
Gretorp and Sheth...

<3
DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
March 24 2011 15:48 GMT
#18
miniWheat.
Glowbox
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 15:48:50
March 24 2011 15:48 GMT
#19
You can't know who is the best, most commentators play on smurf accounts (for good reason...). If you take laddering as the measure of skill of course.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
March 24 2011 15:48 GMT
#20
Depends on what qualifies as commentators, since there are quite a few "hybrids" on the scene. People like gretorp or Jim (I don't exactly remember his tag, sorry).

But when it comes to people who are mainly recognized for their casting, I would say something along the lines of Artosis -> Rotterdam -> Day9/Tasteless (while Day[9] might be the overall better player I have a feeling he isn't playing much).

I don't know about chill, he kind of peaked during TSL1 but doesn't play much anymore. I also seem to remember something about Psy being decent, but Í can't say for sure.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
1 2 3 4 5 22 23 24 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LAN Event
18:00
Merivale 8: Swiss Groups Day 1
SteadfastSC407
IndyStarCraft 221
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 407
IndyStarCraft 221
UpATreeSC 102
JuggernautJason61
Railgan 38
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 683
NaDa 29
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps955
Foxcn149
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken26
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu459
Other Games
Grubby2403
FrodaN525
Mlord507
mouzStarbuck314
Pyrionflax229
Fuzer 166
C9.Mang091
ArmadaUGS77
Maynarde8
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL217
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 48
• Adnapsc2 19
• Dystopia_ 2
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 50
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2774
• Ler73
• Noizen24
League of Legends
• TFBlade1339
Other Games
• imaqtpie1239
• Scarra377
• WagamamaTV292
• Shiphtur79
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
3h 27m
Replay Cast
11h 27m
WardiTV Korean Royale
14h 27m
LAN Event
17h 27m
OSC
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 12h
LAN Event
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
IPSL
3 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
LAN Event
4 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
LHT Stage 1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.