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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 23:10:15
March 26 2011 23:04 GMT
#441
My wild-ass ranking is this. I'm not counting Idra or TLO or guest commentators, rather people that commentate games on a regular basis and at their own initiative. In other words, people that actually want to known as casters.

In a lot of cases, it's just too hard to call. We have no idea how much Day9 or Tasteless actually play, for instance.

1) Painuser
2) INcontrol
3) Sheth
4) Gretorp
5) Artosis
6) Psy
7) Day 9
8) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)

<-- Insert significant drop off here.

9) Tasteless
10) HD Starcraft
11) JP McDaniel
12) Husky
13) DJ Wheat (? I actually have no idea how good he is).

<-- Chasm

14) Kelly Milkes

<-- The Abyss

15) Total Biscuit

Edit: added Wheat and Kelly

Yubel
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada48 Posts
March 26 2011 23:30 GMT
#442
Ive only ever played Chill on the ladder, and can say he isnt very good given that he lost TvZ in close positions metalopolis :D I'm not sure if the skill level of the commentators really has too great of an effect on the quality of their casting though, since most commentators dont go too deeply into analysis in a tournament setting. Husky displayed a lack of knowledge a couple of times in today's TSL games, but his casting was still very enjoyable to listen to.

As soon as I learn to control group my army I can get to masters with the coveted 1a strategy I've heard so much about!
Silmakuoppaanikinko
Profile Joined November 2010
799 Posts
March 26 2011 23:32 GMT
#443
On March 27 2011 08:04 Defacer wrote:
My wild-ass ranking is this. I'm not counting Idra or TLO or guest commentators, rather people that commentate games on a regular basis and at their own initiative. In other words, people that actually want to known as casters.

In a lot of cases, it's just too hard to call. We have no idea how much Day9 or Tasteless actually play, for instance.

1) Painuser
2) INcontrol
3) Sheth
4) Gretorp
5) Artosis
6) Psy
7) Day 9
8) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)

<-- Insert significant drop off here.

9) Tasteless
10) HD Starcraft
11) JP McDaniel
12) Husky
13) DJ Wheat (? I actually have no idea how good he is).

<-- Chasm

14) Kelly Milkes

<-- The Abyss

15) Total Biscuit

Edit: added Wheat and Kelly

Not sure if PsY is actually in the category of Artosis and PainUser, and Tasteless with Husky?

Is TotalBiscuit really that bad by the way? Never seen him play.

Also, Kelly is pretty good, lot better than Husky at least.
Workers and town centres are the ultimate counter to turtles.
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 23:35:42
March 26 2011 23:35 GMT
#444
Total Biscuit and Husky

They plays a much more skill oriented game in World of Warcraft, that alone will edge them out against someone like Artosis and Day9.

They also have a huge amounts of Youtube subscribers, and why would you have that many subs if werent pro?



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Let us see how many people actually click this spoiler to see that i was merely joking, i bet half wont and will bash me to hell and back!




If all casters put in time, Artosis and Day9, their BW backround gives them a massive advantage
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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 00:33:23
March 27 2011 00:25 GMT
#445
On March 27 2011 08:32 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 08:04 Defacer wrote:
My wild-ass ranking is this. I'm not counting Idra or TLO or guest commentators, rather people that commentate games on a regular basis and at their own initiative. In other words, people that actually want to known as casters.

In a lot of cases, it's just too hard to call. We have no idea how much Day9 or Tasteless actually play, for instance.

1) Painuser
2) INcontrol
3) Sheth
4) Gretorp
5) Artosis
6) Psy
7) Day 9
8) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)

<-- Insert significant drop off here.

9) Tasteless
10) HD Starcraft
11) JP McDaniel
12) Husky
13) DJ Wheat (? I actually have no idea how good he is).

<-- Chasm

14) Kelly Milkes

<-- The Abyss

15) Total Biscuit

Edit: added Wheat and Kelly

Not sure if PsY is actually in the category of Artosis and PainUser, and Tasteless with Husky?

Is TotalBiscuit really that bad by the way? Never seen him play.

Also, Kelly is pretty good, lot better than Husky at least.


Not sure how good Psy is ... I thought he was better than the HD and JP tier, but could be wrong. I'm pretty sure Day 9 is really good, but I'm not sure how much he plays.

I always get this impression that Tasteless plays less seriously than Day 9 and Artosis and his pro days are behind him. But he could easily be a high Master's league player and we wouldn't know it.

As much as people bust HD's balls, he is a mid-Master's player.

I'm pretty sure Husky is a mid-diamond player and Kelly is in the mid-platinum range.

I actually have no idea if Total Biscuit plays our not.

List revised. Let me know what you guys think.

1) Painuser
2) INcontrol
3) Sheth
4) Gretorp
5) Artosis
6) Day 9
7) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)

<-- Insert significant drop off here.

8) Psy
9) Tasteless
10) HD Starcraft
11) JP McDaniel
12) Husky
13) DJ Wheat (? I actually have no idea how good he is).

<-- Chasm

14) Kelly Milkes

<-- The Abyss

15) Total Biscuit
oGsTheStD
Profile Joined February 2011
United States32 Posts
March 27 2011 02:04 GMT
#446
On March 27 2011 09:25 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 08:32 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote:
On March 27 2011 08:04 Defacer wrote:
My wild-ass ranking is this. I'm not counting Idra or TLO or guest commentators, rather people that commentate games on a regular basis and at their own initiative. In other words, people that actually want to known as casters.

In a lot of cases, it's just too hard to call. We have no idea how much Day9 or Tasteless actually play, for instance.

1) Painuser
2) INcontrol
3) Sheth
4) Gretorp
5) Artosis
6) Psy
7) Day 9
8) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)

<-- Insert significant drop off here.

9) Tasteless
10) HD Starcraft
11) JP McDaniel
12) Husky
13) DJ Wheat (? I actually have no idea how good he is).

<-- Chasm

14) Kelly Milkes

<-- The Abyss

15) Total Biscuit

Edit: added Wheat and Kelly

Not sure if PsY is actually in the category of Artosis and PainUser, and Tasteless with Husky?

Is TotalBiscuit really that bad by the way? Never seen him play.

Also, Kelly is pretty good, lot better than Husky at least.


Not sure how good Psy is ... I thought he was better than the HD and JP tier, but could be wrong. I'm pretty sure Day 9 is really good, but I'm not sure how much he plays.

I always get this impression that Tasteless plays less seriously than Day 9 and Artosis and his pro days are behind him. But he could easily be a high Master's league player and we wouldn't know it.

As much as people bust HD's balls, he is a mid-Master's player.

I'm pretty sure Husky is a mid-diamond player and Kelly is in the mid-platinum range.

I actually have no idea if Total Biscuit plays our not.

List revised. Let me know what you guys think.

1) Painuser
2) INcontrol
3) Sheth
4) Gretorp
5) Artosis
6) Day 9
7) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)

<-- Insert significant drop off here.

8) Psy


Psy is really good, I think he is in the vile clan, and here is a video of him beating a top 200 ON LADDER, which would put him at very high masters at the lowest:



I would say he is at least the same level as Artosis if not higher
Xodushai
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden174 Posts
March 27 2011 02:15 GMT
#447
Minigun is also very good, doing a lot of commentary.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 27 2011 02:45 GMT
#448
On March 27 2011 11:15 Xodushai wrote:
Minigun is also very good, doing a lot of commentary.



Good call. Where do think Chill, Minigun and DOA fit on my list?

HentaiPrime
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada85 Posts
March 27 2011 02:48 GMT
#449
someone should make a tournament with all the top casters... and have top players that never casted before do the commentating
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Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
March 27 2011 02:58 GMT
#450
On March 27 2011 09:25 Defacer wrote:

I'm pretty sure Husky is a mid-diamond player and Kelly is in the mid-platinum range.

I actually have no idea if Total Biscuit plays our not.

Kelly is diamond on KR. I think it's safe to say she would destroy Husky. Doa is probably just below Husky's level, I think I read he was plat on NA and silver on KR. TB mentioned being in plat most recently.
Silmakuoppaanikinko
Profile Joined November 2010
799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-27 13:05:49
March 27 2011 13:03 GMT
#451
On March 27 2011 09:25 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 08:32 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote:
On March 27 2011 08:04 Defacer wrote:
My wild-ass ranking is this. I'm not counting Idra or TLO or guest commentators, rather people that commentate games on a regular basis and at their own initiative. In other words, people that actually want to known as casters.

In a lot of cases, it's just too hard to call. We have no idea how much Day9 or Tasteless actually play, for instance.

1) Painuser
2) INcontrol
3) Sheth
4) Gretorp
5) Artosis
6) Psy
7) Day 9
8) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)

<-- Insert significant drop off here.

9) Tasteless
10) HD Starcraft
11) JP McDaniel
12) Husky
13) DJ Wheat (? I actually have no idea how good he is).

<-- Chasm

14) Kelly Milkes

<-- The Abyss

15) Total Biscuit

Edit: added Wheat and Kelly

Not sure if PsY is actually in the category of Artosis and PainUser, and Tasteless with Husky?

Is TotalBiscuit really that bad by the way? Never seen him play.

Also, Kelly is pretty good, lot better than Husky at least.


Not sure how good Psy is ... I thought he was better than the HD and JP tier, but could be wrong. I'm pretty sure Day 9 is really good, but I'm not sure how much he plays.
PsY is definitely good and he's taken games of people like Catz and Drewbie, the question is, can he do it consistently? He often casts more wins than losses.

I also love a man who's comfortable enough with his sexuality to make the remarks he makes.

I always get this impression that Tasteless plays less seriously than Day 9 and Artosis and his pro days are behind him. But he could easily be a high Master's league player and we wouldn't know it.
I gather he 4gates all day from what he says.

I'm pretty sure Husky is a mid-diamond player
Husky isn't that good no, he also has a lot of weird ideas about the game, such as that if unit x does bonus damage to unit y, then surely x must counter y?

and Kelly is in the mid-platinum range.
Nahh, she won some female tournaments and is one of the best female players in the world right now. Her account says platinum yeah, but it has like 80 points, obviously she just got placed in platinum and from there on only played 4 games or something. Not enough to get to diamond even if you win all.

I actually have no idea if Total Biscuit plays our not.
He does, and everyone says he's bad, but I've never seen him play or have any evidence of his skill.


Edit: As far as simple comprehension of this game, I would have to say PsY, there's a difference between walking the path and knowing it of course, but often he just comes with observations about it that no one makes but are still very correct.
Workers and town centres are the ultimate counter to turtles.
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
March 27 2011 13:29 GMT
#452
Not enough casters are good enough to make interesting games to watch. Casters and Coaches friendly tournament would be fun.
simme123
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Sweden810 Posts
March 27 2011 13:37 GMT
#453
Incontrol, Gretorp and artosis.
Silmakuoppaanikinko
Profile Joined November 2010
799 Posts
March 27 2011 13:39 GMT
#454
I wonder how Khaldor plays though, like, he's obviously the best caster out there if he can make people watch his stream who don't even understand what he says.
Workers and town centres are the ultimate counter to turtles.
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
March 27 2011 14:33 GMT
#455
I believe Tasteless is really good, still. For all I know he's playing in the Korean master league, and that's always something.

Psy is good enough to be just below the "also a pro player"-casters like iNcontrol and Artosis. HD is pretty solid too I think.

TotalBiscuit claims he's terrible (I mean he's probably better than the majority of the players in gold and below but that doesnt really say anything). Even if he's shaping up on his knowledge the entire execution part seems to always end with disaster. Unless it's battlecruiser rush.
Attican
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark531 Posts
March 27 2011 14:52 GMT
#456
Someone should organize a commentator tournament, that would settle it once and for all. Day9 and Artosis are probably the two best players out of the commentators, it's too bad we don't get to see games from them.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
March 27 2011 15:14 GMT
#457
I think the best is Artosis (Esp now hes going to be practicing more for NASL). I honestly have no idea how good Tasteless is though. I feel like Day 9 will show in some tournaments once hes done with college and do pretty well.
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
March 27 2011 16:35 GMT
#458
Its Artosis for sure. He has qualified for GSL, which is more than any of the other commentators have done.
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Juffalo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States155 Posts
March 27 2011 17:10 GMT
#459
I thought I heard somewhere that JP was a 3400 ish master's as Random. Anyone confirm this ? really not bad at all.

It seems weird for me to say that incontrol is the best commentator purely because I think of him as a player first and a commentator second. However as far as players who also commentate go he is definitely one of the best.
Johnnybb
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark486 Posts
March 27 2011 19:58 GMT
#460
I'd say Artosis. He is such a wise guy.
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