My wild-ass ranking is this. I'm not counting Idra or TLO or guest commentators, rather people that commentate games on a regular basis and at their own initiative. In other words, people that actually want to known as casters.
In a lot of cases, it's just too hard to call. We have no idea how much Day9 or Tasteless actually play, for instance.
1) Painuser 2) INcontrol 3) Sheth 4) Gretorp 5) Artosis 6) Psy 7) Day 9 8) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)
<-- Insert significant drop off here.
9) Tasteless 10) HD Starcraft 11) JP McDaniel 12) Husky 13) DJ Wheat (? I actually have no idea how good he is).
Ive only ever played Chill on the ladder, and can say he isnt very good given that he lost TvZ in close positions metalopolis :D I'm not sure if the skill level of the commentators really has too great of an effect on the quality of their casting though, since most commentators dont go too deeply into analysis in a tournament setting. Husky displayed a lack of knowledge a couple of times in today's TSL games, but his casting was still very enjoyable to listen to.
On March 27 2011 08:04 Defacer wrote: My wild-ass ranking is this. I'm not counting Idra or TLO or guest commentators, rather people that commentate games on a regular basis and at their own initiative. In other words, people that actually want to known as casters.
In a lot of cases, it's just too hard to call. We have no idea how much Day9 or Tasteless actually play, for instance.
1) Painuser 2) INcontrol 3) Sheth 4) Gretorp 5) Artosis 6) Psy 7) Day 9 8) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)
<-- Insert significant drop off here.
9) Tasteless 10) HD Starcraft 11) JP McDaniel 12) Husky 13) DJ Wheat (? I actually have no idea how good he is).
<-- Chasm
14) Kelly Milkes
<-- The Abyss
15) Total Biscuit
Edit: added Wheat and Kelly
Not sure if PsY is actually in the category of Artosis and PainUser, and Tasteless with Husky?
Is TotalBiscuit really that bad by the way? Never seen him play.
Also, Kelly is pretty good, lot better than Husky at least.
On March 27 2011 08:04 Defacer wrote: My wild-ass ranking is this. I'm not counting Idra or TLO or guest commentators, rather people that commentate games on a regular basis and at their own initiative. In other words, people that actually want to known as casters.
In a lot of cases, it's just too hard to call. We have no idea how much Day9 or Tasteless actually play, for instance.
1) Painuser 2) INcontrol 3) Sheth 4) Gretorp 5) Artosis 6) Psy 7) Day 9 8) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)
<-- Insert significant drop off here.
9) Tasteless 10) HD Starcraft 11) JP McDaniel 12) Husky 13) DJ Wheat (? I actually have no idea how good he is).
<-- Chasm
14) Kelly Milkes
<-- The Abyss
15) Total Biscuit
Edit: added Wheat and Kelly
Not sure if PsY is actually in the category of Artosis and PainUser, and Tasteless with Husky?
Is TotalBiscuit really that bad by the way? Never seen him play.
Also, Kelly is pretty good, lot better than Husky at least.
Not sure how good Psy is ... I thought he was better than the HD and JP tier, but could be wrong. I'm pretty sure Day 9 is really good, but I'm not sure how much he plays.
I always get this impression that Tasteless plays less seriously than Day 9 and Artosis and his pro days are behind him. But he could easily be a high Master's league player and we wouldn't know it.
As much as people bust HD's balls, he is a mid-Master's player.
I'm pretty sure Husky is a mid-diamond player and Kelly is in the mid-platinum range.
I actually have no idea if Total Biscuit plays our not.
List revised. Let me know what you guys think.
1) Painuser 2) INcontrol 3) Sheth 4) Gretorp 5) Artosis 6) Day 9 7) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)
<-- Insert significant drop off here.
8) Psy 9) Tasteless 10) HD Starcraft 11) JP McDaniel 12) Husky 13) DJ Wheat (? I actually have no idea how good he is).
On March 27 2011 08:04 Defacer wrote: My wild-ass ranking is this. I'm not counting Idra or TLO or guest commentators, rather people that commentate games on a regular basis and at their own initiative. In other words, people that actually want to known as casters.
In a lot of cases, it's just too hard to call. We have no idea how much Day9 or Tasteless actually play, for instance.
1) Painuser 2) INcontrol 3) Sheth 4) Gretorp 5) Artosis 6) Psy 7) Day 9 8) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)
<-- Insert significant drop off here.
9) Tasteless 10) HD Starcraft 11) JP McDaniel 12) Husky 13) DJ Wheat (? I actually have no idea how good he is).
<-- Chasm
14) Kelly Milkes
<-- The Abyss
15) Total Biscuit
Edit: added Wheat and Kelly
Not sure if PsY is actually in the category of Artosis and PainUser, and Tasteless with Husky?
Is TotalBiscuit really that bad by the way? Never seen him play.
Also, Kelly is pretty good, lot better than Husky at least.
Not sure how good Psy is ... I thought he was better than the HD and JP tier, but could be wrong. I'm pretty sure Day 9 is really good, but I'm not sure how much he plays.
I always get this impression that Tasteless plays less seriously than Day 9 and Artosis and his pro days are behind him. But he could easily be a high Master's league player and we wouldn't know it.
As much as people bust HD's balls, he is a mid-Master's player.
I'm pretty sure Husky is a mid-diamond player and Kelly is in the mid-platinum range.
I actually have no idea if Total Biscuit plays our not.
List revised. Let me know what you guys think.
1) Painuser 2) INcontrol 3) Sheth 4) Gretorp 5) Artosis 6) Day 9 7) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)
<-- Insert significant drop off here.
8) Psy
Psy is really good, I think he is in the vile clan, and here is a video of him beating a top 200 ON LADDER, which would put him at very high masters at the lowest:
I would say he is at least the same level as Artosis if not higher
I'm pretty sure Husky is a mid-diamond player and Kelly is in the mid-platinum range.
I actually have no idea if Total Biscuit plays our not.
Kelly is diamond on KR. I think it's safe to say she would destroy Husky. Doa is probably just below Husky's level, I think I read he was plat on NA and silver on KR. TB mentioned being in plat most recently.
On March 27 2011 08:04 Defacer wrote: My wild-ass ranking is this. I'm not counting Idra or TLO or guest commentators, rather people that commentate games on a regular basis and at their own initiative. In other words, people that actually want to known as casters.
In a lot of cases, it's just too hard to call. We have no idea how much Day9 or Tasteless actually play, for instance.
1) Painuser 2) INcontrol 3) Sheth 4) Gretorp 5) Artosis 6) Psy 7) Day 9 8) Mr. Bitter (can't decide if he counts)
<-- Insert significant drop off here.
9) Tasteless 10) HD Starcraft 11) JP McDaniel 12) Husky 13) DJ Wheat (? I actually have no idea how good he is).
<-- Chasm
14) Kelly Milkes
<-- The Abyss
15) Total Biscuit
Edit: added Wheat and Kelly
Not sure if PsY is actually in the category of Artosis and PainUser, and Tasteless with Husky?
Is TotalBiscuit really that bad by the way? Never seen him play.
Also, Kelly is pretty good, lot better than Husky at least.
Not sure how good Psy is ... I thought he was better than the HD and JP tier, but could be wrong. I'm pretty sure Day 9 is really good, but I'm not sure how much he plays.
PsY is definitely good and he's taken games of people like Catz and Drewbie, the question is, can he do it consistently? He often casts more wins than losses.
I also love a man who's comfortable enough with his sexuality to make the remarks he makes.
I always get this impression that Tasteless plays less seriously than Day 9 and Artosis and his pro days are behind him. But he could easily be a high Master's league player and we wouldn't know it.
I gather he 4gates all day from what he says.
I'm pretty sure Husky is a mid-diamond player
Husky isn't that good no, he also has a lot of weird ideas about the game, such as that if unit x does bonus damage to unit y, then surely x must counter y?
and Kelly is in the mid-platinum range.
Nahh, she won some female tournaments and is one of the best female players in the world right now. Her account says platinum yeah, but it has like 80 points, obviously she just got placed in platinum and from there on only played 4 games or something. Not enough to get to diamond even if you win all.
I actually have no idea if Total Biscuit plays our not.
He does, and everyone says he's bad, but I've never seen him play or have any evidence of his skill.
Edit: As far as simple comprehension of this game, I would have to say PsY, there's a difference between walking the path and knowing it of course, but often he just comes with observations about it that no one makes but are still very correct.
I wonder how Khaldor plays though, like, he's obviously the best caster out there if he can make people watch his stream who don't even understand what he says.
I believe Tasteless is really good, still. For all I know he's playing in the Korean master league, and that's always something.
Psy is good enough to be just below the "also a pro player"-casters like iNcontrol and Artosis. HD is pretty solid too I think.
TotalBiscuit claims he's terrible (I mean he's probably better than the majority of the players in gold and below but that doesnt really say anything). Even if he's shaping up on his knowledge the entire execution part seems to always end with disaster. Unless it's battlecruiser rush.
Someone should organize a commentator tournament, that would settle it once and for all. Day9 and Artosis are probably the two best players out of the commentators, it's too bad we don't get to see games from them.
I think the best is Artosis (Esp now hes going to be practicing more for NASL). I honestly have no idea how good Tasteless is though. I feel like Day 9 will show in some tournaments once hes done with college and do pretty well.
I thought I heard somewhere that JP was a 3400 ish master's as Random. Anyone confirm this ? really not bad at all.
It seems weird for me to say that incontrol is the best commentator purely because I think of him as a player first and a commentator second. However as far as players who also commentate go he is definitely one of the best.