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On March 25 2011 00:47 Dubpace wrote:
Gretorp and Sheth...
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Gretorp and Sheth...
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Well if include them as "commentators" they are obviously very good, however, most would say they are mainly progamers just like incontrol.
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
Edit: Well if include them as "commentators" they are obviously very good, however, most would say they are mainly progamers just like incontrol. | ||
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zappa372
Chile365 Posts
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On March 25 2011 00:47 Dubpace wrote: Gretorp and Sheth... <3 Since when is Sheth a commentator? Honestly asking, I haven't seen a single cast with him. | ||
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Sneakyz
Sweden2361 Posts
On March 25 2011 00:47 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote: Define 'commentator'? a lot of pros have commentated on the side, TLO, IdrA, PainUser... And skill is not monodimensional, for instance, Day9 is not the best in a straight up match but his understanding of the game is very good, same for PsY, he really understands a lot of this game, more than most full time pros who just play by feeling it seems. Artosis and Tasteless on the other hand, though probably both better players than PsY have downright terrible understanding of the game ("No way he can save this nexus" -> saves nexus, "This is gg in any minute now." -> games goes on for 30 more minutes, "vikings are terrible on the ground" -> vikings land and obliterate everything) I always found it humorous when people diss Kelly for her lack of understanding, but Tastosis make so many bad calls each match. The guy I'd personally recomment for learning from is PsY though, just slightly better than Day[9] who often tries to sugar-coat and fills his hour up with trivial nonsense from time to time. They obviously try to make it exciting for the casual viewer lol | ||
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
On March 25 2011 00:49 gruff wrote: Since when is Sheth a commentator? Honestly asking, I haven't seen a single cast with him. He casted quite a few matches in the gosucoaching premier league. | ||
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
otherwise i think its artosis. i think he has the right amount of everything. though i am seeing a lot of higher level players like adebisi cast, and they do decently | ||
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
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Kvothe
201 Posts
On March 25 2011 00:47 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote: Define 'commentator'? a lot of pros have commentated on the side, TLO, IdrA, PainUser... And skill is not monodimensional, for instance, Day9 is not the best in a straight up match but his understanding of the game is very good, same for PsY, he really understands a lot of this game, more than most full time pros who just play by feeling it seems. Artosis and Tasteless on the other hand, though probably both better players than PsY have downright terrible understanding of the game ("No way he can save this nexus" -> saves nexus, "This is gg in any minute now." -> games goes on for 30 more minutes, "vikings are terrible on the ground" -> vikings land and obliterate everything) I always found it humorous when people diss Kelly for her lack of understanding, but Tastosis make so many bad calls each match. The guy I'd personally recomment for learning from is PsY though, just slightly better than Day[9] who often tries to sugar-coat and fills his hour up with trivial nonsense from time to time. Artosis is often regarded as the best commentator in terms of understanding the game....not sure where you came up with that. You might be thinking sololy tasteless, who often makes the wrong call. | ||
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Butterz
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CidO
United States695 Posts
day9 (he has smurf accounts no one knows the id's of for obvious reasons) artosis | ||
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RaFeStaR
United States161 Posts
On March 25 2011 00:47 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote: Define 'commentator'? a lot of pros have commentated on the side, TLO, IdrA, PainUser... And skill is not monodimensional, for instance, Day9 is not the best in a straight up match but his understanding of the game is very good, same for PsY, he really understands a lot of this game, more than most full time pros who just play by feeling it seems. Artosis and Tasteless on the other hand, though probably both better players than PsY have downright terrible understanding of the game ("No way he can save this nexus" -> saves nexus, "This is gg in any minute now." -> games goes on for 30 more minutes, "vikings are terrible on the ground" -> vikings land and obliterate everything) I always found it humorous when people diss Kelly for her lack of understanding, but Tastosis make so many bad calls each match. The guy I'd personally recomment for learning from is PsY though, just slightly better than Day[9] who often tries to sugar-coat and fills his hour up with trivial nonsense from time to time. What? Artosis has a terrible understanding of the game? Mind blown. As for the OP's question: Artosis. He qualified for GSL, a lot of "pro's" who play the game more than him can't/couldn't even accomplish that. (I know I know, bracket difficulty blah blah blah). | ||
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OnlineHero
Denmark647 Posts
On March 25 2011 00:47 ppshchik wrote: Quite surprised of people saying Artosis oversince Artosis said Day9 is his biggest rival. You guys seem to imply that Artosis can wipe the floor with Day9 in a Bo5 Edit: NVM I didn't know Day9 attends school. So Artosis def. has more practice hours than him... As far as I know, that rivalry goes back to BW and has nothing to do with SC2. | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On March 25 2011 00:47 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote: Define 'commentator'? a lot of pros have commentated on the side, TLO, IdrA, PainUser... And skill is not monodimensional, for instance, Day9 is not the best in a straight up match but his understanding of the game is very good, same for PsY, he really understands a lot of this game, more than most full time pros who just play by feeling it seems. Artosis and Tasteless on the other hand, though probably both better players than PsY have downright terrible understanding of the game ("No way he can save this nexus" -> saves nexus, "This is gg in any minute now." -> games goes on for 30 more minutes, "vikings are terrible on the ground" -> vikings land and obliterate everything) I always found it humorous when people diss Kelly for her lack of understanding, but Tastosis make so many bad calls each match. The guy I'd personally recomment for learning from is PsY though, just slightly better than Day[9] who often tries to sugar-coat and fills his hour up with trivial nonsense from time to time. You expect them to make every call right? Artosis gets things right 99% of the time, how many times has a game been 2 minutes in and he says "I bet x goes for this and his opponent does this" and then is proven exactly right 30 secs later. When they talk about a nexus being dead and it gets saved, 80% of the time it doesn't get saved, the other 20% the player either isn't paying attention to his army and it starts attacking the opponents rallying units instead or he actively decides to kill the new army before it kills his, instead of finishes the nexus. Or more often the nexus survives with 30 hp.... Vikings are terrible on the ground, but if you have 16 of them and the opponent has 6 stalkers ofc they win....... if you land 6 vikings against 6 equal HP ground units... they lose.... just because they win a fight every now and then doesn't mean they are good on the ground. | ||
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Darksteel
Finland319 Posts
Artosis InControl and prolly all progamers that commentate and play competatively at the same time are around the same level skill wise. | ||
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Beef Noodles
United States937 Posts
On March 25 2011 00:47 Dubpace wrote: Gretorp and Sheth... <3 Clearly the best answer... But, I haven't seen artosis play in a long time | ||
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Silmakuoppaanikinko
799 Posts
But like I said, his understanding and insights are really good, he's a great tactician even though is micro and mechanics aren't stellar, and tactics and and strategy are mainly taught, while mechanics are trained by practice and practice. You can't explain to someone how to have good mechanics, it comes with time (or not). | ||
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bobq
United States136 Posts
Also, it'd be pretty awesome if we started building stat sheets for casters: "Day9's got a solid 10 for Analytics, but his 6 Playing Skills can't compete with inControl's 9". We could use game knowledge, analysis, humor, playing skill... | ||
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CluEleSs_UK
United Kingdom583 Posts
If nothing else, the tasteless build always works. | ||
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xsevR
United States324 Posts
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kasumimi
Greece460 Posts
Also compare Tasteless's commenting back in the BW days when he was 100% active player. He is still good but the sharpness and the deep comments of a trained player's eye are long gone. *Edit: I'm not saying that you ONLY need to play the game to be a good commentator, there are other parameters involved in this. Like being able to speak English properly and having a good sense of humor and being able to say what you are thinking in a way that is understood by everyone. | ||
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