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Yusafat
Profile Joined March 2011
Estonia20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 19:40:01
March 24 2011 19:39 GMT
#201
On March 25 2011 04:36 iNcontroL wrote:
lol

No it isn't.

haha
LorDo
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden485 Posts
March 24 2011 19:40 GMT
#202
On March 25 2011 04:36 bigbeau wrote:
saying incontrol is better than artosis is actually questionable...


Who has seen Artosis play since the beta?

And haha at the response.
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
March 24 2011 19:41 GMT
#203
On March 25 2011 04:36 iNcontroL wrote:
lol

No it isn't.

Do I feel a showmatch about to be created?
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
March 24 2011 19:43 GMT
#204
I think it would be Artosis or Tasteless.
if you can believe you can concieve
bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 20:09:03
March 24 2011 19:44 GMT
#205
lol

No it isn't.


i think artosis actually qualified for a gsl
apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
March 24 2011 19:45 GMT
#206
Demuslim
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Knutzi
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway664 Posts
March 24 2011 19:45 GMT
#207
id say artosis for sure, maybe incontrol if he counts as shoutcaster

while day9 is awesome i really dont think he is very good at this game right now, half the stuff he says is either outdated information or just wrong.
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 19:46:14
March 24 2011 19:45 GMT
#208
On March 25 2011 04:36 iNcontroL wrote:
lol

No it isn't.

INCONTROL ARTOSIS SHOWMATCH GOGO!

no but seriously that would be awesome if you could make that happen
ePLocust
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States587 Posts
March 24 2011 19:48 GMT
#209
I really think that Day[9] had the most knowledge of the game and how its played out of all the top casters but he just doesn't have the time to practice right now
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
March 24 2011 19:49 GMT
#210
Artosis and Day, with tasteless a bit behind.

I don't really consider Incontrol a commentator yet.
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Peekaboo
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada219 Posts
March 24 2011 19:50 GMT
#211
On March 25 2011 03:29 reprise wrote:
How is Artossis "way better" than someone you've only seen play in the beta? And the whole "finally getting into diamond" is because of not having enough time to play. Do you really think someone who's been A on iccup and pgtour is not able to play SC2?

Also, using beta videos for proof isn't really legitimate proof. Look at any other video from the beta, everyone was pretty bad by today's standards, even the pros.


Quit being such a fanboy. I just remember back when Day 9 was saying stuff like I played 14 games against Jinro yesterday, and practicing against TLO on the weekend...and it was a month later when he announced he finally made it into diamond. And after that he announced he was just going to smurf. That's all I know about his ability in SC2.... its not awe-inspiring.

I'm not saying Day9 doesn't have an awesome High masters league smurf account rated higher than Artosis's public accounts... I'm just saying it is highly unlikely. And I'm not saying he couldn't apply himself and become good, but it seems he hasn't.

Thus, Artosis, who has, is a much better player given the public evidence.
You loved me as a loser but now you're worried that I just might win. -L. Cohen
Reggae-Troll
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland241 Posts
March 24 2011 19:52 GMT
#212
Artosis->Tasteless-Day9-Psy

Artosis is definetly the best one, rest is just pure guesswork.
Do feed the Troll.
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
March 24 2011 19:53 GMT
#213
On March 25 2011 04:36 iNcontroL wrote:
lol

No it isn't.

LOL. I haven't seen artosis play P yet, but as Z, iNcontrol was WAY better.

I'm not dissing artosis, cause he has to cast much more, and it was a while ago, but I just can't see him being as good as iNc even any time soon.

People underrate iNcontrol so much...
ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
March 24 2011 19:54 GMT
#214
[/QUOTE]

This thread is hard to answer because who is a commenatator? Is Destiny a commentator? Is Combat-Ex a commentator?

And what is skill? Are we talking about results or theoretical skill? Or theoretical potential?

Fuck it I'll just answer Artosis.[/QUOTE]

I would consider a person a commentator when the main aspect of their starcraft experience is commentating. Artosis, tasteless, Day(9), Psy, Rotterdam, Husky, HD, JP ect ect

Destiny is mainly a player, he plays to get better. If he desides to soley commentate (like he has said he would consider) then yes he will then be a commentator, atm he is a player.

Combat-ex doesn't have the respect of the community to be anything but troll/cheese.


Skill is a subjective term basing off of ones belief; and here is where the real question can be answered.


Results- Artosis
Theoretical- Artosis/Day9
Theoretical potential- Day9

obviously this is my opinion but I'm pretty sure with his bw practice regiment that Day9 could be a big contender for highend competitive play and that will also raise his commentating abilities.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
March 24 2011 20:00 GMT
#215
On March 25 2011 04:50 Peekaboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 03:29 reprise wrote:
How is Artossis "way better" than someone you've only seen play in the beta? And the whole "finally getting into diamond" is because of not having enough time to play. Do you really think someone who's been A on iccup and pgtour is not able to play SC2?

Also, using beta videos for proof isn't really legitimate proof. Look at any other video from the beta, everyone was pretty bad by today's standards, even the pros.


Quit being such a fanboy. I just remember back when Day 9 was saying stuff like I played 14 games against Jinro yesterday, and practicing against TLO on the weekend...and it was a month later when he announced he finally made it into diamond. And after that he announced he was just going to smurf. That's all I know about his ability in SC2.... its not awe-inspiring.

I'm not saying Day9 doesn't have an awesome High masters league smurf account rated higher than Artosis's public accounts... I'm just saying it is highly unlikely. And I'm not saying he couldn't apply himself and become good, but it seems he hasn't.

Thus, Artosis, who has, is a much better player given the public evidence.

You do realize Day9 do have at least one high masters account as random? Even though masters isn't much of an achievement. And it's probably true he's not at the top of his game now with uni and shit.
About that diamond thing though, how do you know he didn't play pure custom games and no ladder?
Obviously no point speculating about something noone knows anything about except Day9 himself and maybe some of his friends.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 20:04:04
March 24 2011 20:02 GMT
#216
On March 25 2011 04:36 iNcontroL wrote:
lol

No it isn't.


That's true, I forgot about iNc completely ><

On a play level for big commentators, now that iNc will be doing NASL he has the highest play level iNc is probably the best. I think Artosis's real strength is his game knowledge/passion. Not to say that iNc isn't very good on those same fronts as well

I actually really hope Day gets into playing seriously with Star2 as well, as he is just such a fantastic player, I think he could definitely vie for this position if he did start to play seriously. That and I hope he goes back to the deep analysis he did in BW to help further the metagame rather than just catering to new players, though it's great that he is helping out the lower level players.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 20:05:36
March 24 2011 20:05 GMT
#217
incontrol or gretorp... maybe artosis

edit: forgot painuser!
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Jerb
Profile Joined July 2010
United States21 Posts
March 24 2011 20:09 GMT
#218
I would say Artosis and incontrol.

I want to say Day9, he is really knowledgable and has great analysis, but I think the only time I've seen him play was some showmatch against his brother during beta.
http://sc2ps.com
RESTRiCT
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada123 Posts
March 24 2011 20:09 GMT
#219
On March 25 2011 00:45 FOUTWENTYSIXTY wrote:
Husky for sure.



LOL he's ladder what? MAYBE 15 games
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
March 24 2011 20:12 GMT
#220
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