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On March 25 2011 00:42 Ohdamn wrote: the answer is artosis. This. No one else really comes close, in all likelihood. If day9 were good, I think we'd see the tiniest bit of evidence of the fact. We don't even know that he's master league, lol.
Tasteless is clearly master league (and has actually mentioned that fact off hand at one point), but he doesn't play at a professional level.
Artosis doesn't even get as much time to practice, due to commentating, but still hangs around a code A level of skill.
Though I guess it's worth noting, HD and Husky are both master level, but their commentary makes you think they're in gold league. So maybe there are some other commentators up at the very high master level, but just don't show it through their bad commentary.
Kellymilkies, for example, is master in korea.
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Sheth is good. So is Artosis.
Day[9] is debatable. Once he graduates he'll be sick though.
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Day 9 when he is done with studying for sure
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On March 25 2011 06:22 Buddhist wrote:This. No one else really comes close, in all likelihood. If day9 were good, I think we'd see the tiniest bit of evidence of the fact. We don't even know that he's master league, lol. Tasteless is clearly master league (and has actually mentioned that fact off hand at one point), but he doesn't play at a professional level. Artosis doesn't even get as much time to practice, due to commentating, but still hangs around a code A level of skill. Though I guess it's worth noting, HD and Husky are both master level, but their commentary makes you think they're in gold league. So maybe there are some other commentators up at the very high master level, but just don't show it through their bad commentary. Kellymilkies, for example, is master in korea.
Umm . . no.
Kellymilkies is gold on NA and plat on SEA ><
http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/2141462/kellyMILKIES
Where do people get these ideas from . . .
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Artosis
He's been in the GSL before, and was one game away from qualifying again recently.
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Artosis is probably getting nerd chills reading this thread, but I'd also have to say Artosis. He plays Korean ladder, commentates some of the highest levels games and actually goes home and plays the game. He's even recently said since he doesn't have to cast Code A anymore that he'll become more competitive in SC2.
Day9 would be sick if his day wasn't full of dailies, college and prep work. I doubt it would take him long to become high masters if he had the time to ladder.
Tasteless smurfs + trolls the NA masters ladder cannon rushing and talking to other people about himself. I'm sure he is above average.
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No current commentator is a pro player except for Gretorp afaik. Gretorp will commentate NASL afaik. Most commentators that I am aware of have very little skill. This includes husky, djwheat, jp, Chill, Khaldor, thundertoss, Ascend, Micro, Vincere, et al. Some commentators have a little bit of skill. This includes Artosis (low master, ~55%) Rotterdam is 3,800 master 53% (3/24/11) and was a professional wc3 player. Day9 I suppose to be a high level player.
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Lol are you like 5. Plz name the strongest one... lol. Artosis, but I guess you would watch these guys for their commentating not their playing strength,,,
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Hey I recently played artosis on ladder I thought I'd share, in terms of actual skill his mid to late game is absolutely terrible. I have another replay that I'm not going to share as i'm not his opponent so I don't feel like its mine to share but he doesn't do so hot. That being said I still have an immense amount of respect for the guy and what he does for the community, I would love to see him play more as his early build is pretty respectable.
Something makes me think SKU is day9 but I'm not entirely sure, day is retarded good though in terms of potential. If he put casting on hold for a month sat down and practiced he would blow everyone out of the water including most tip top players in NA.
http://drop.sc/2308?pass=
I'll see if i can get the other game as it is a 30 min game and kinda shows you what hes actually like in a macro game
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On March 25 2011 05:25 ixi.genocide wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 03:43 OldBamboo wrote: Day is getting his M.S. in Math, right? That takes one heck of a self-disciplined mind.
I think the question is: Does Day9 have the talent to use with his genius brain and become a dominant sc2 gamer. If he can't execute all of the brilliant ideas/strategies he comes up with, then he'll be limited in how far he can go. He's getting his M.S in a design field. I don't remember exactly what his degree is but his math degree is from Harvey Mudd.
SC2 takes all the intelligence of a prepubscent korean boy (leenock).
I suppose Day9 could formalize the strategies:
Day9's lemma: Just go fucking kill him.
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Its Artosis, only caster to qualify for GSL. Nuff said.
This shouldn't even be an argument. Day9 isn't at top level because of school and Tasteless isn't what he used to be play wise imo.
Rotterdam is good, but I've never seen him enter a tourny, so maybe I'm wrong.
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incontrol artosis gretorp
i have no idea how good day9 so i can't actually list him. i can imagine he would be a very good player, but dunno for sure.
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my vote has to go to tasteless cause he seems to know to read alot of strats but i dont know if he plays enough.
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On March 25 2011 06:35 bMn30 wrote: No current commentator is a pro player except for Gretorp afaik. Gretorp will commentate NASL afaik. Most commentators that I am aware of have very little skill. This includes husky, djwheat, jp, Chill, Khaldor, thundertoss, Ascend, Micro, Vincere, et al. Some commentators have a little bit of skill. This includes Artosis (low master, ~55%) Rotterdam is 3,800 master 53% (3/24/11) and was a professional wc3 player. Day9 I suppose to be a high level player.
You aren't too bright. Gretorp isn't that good. He's sponsored but that came from his BW days. Who is the only caster to qualify for Code A? And have gotten 1 game away at least once? Artosis. Artosis would rape Gretorp so hard he would cry while still playing.
Gretorp, you are cool and all, but Artosis is just better than you.
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Definitely depends on what you mean by skill, if it's potential or if it's actual current skill.
Current skill, probably Artosis.
As for potential? Day was great in the BW days (as was Artosis) even if he wasn't among the upper echelon.
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Definitely artosis right now like everyone is saying. I hope day9 will get back in enough and get back into his old form, so him and artosis can continue their rivalry.
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Could you just throw up a poll?
Anyway... I really love Artosis (first!... no wait...) - But I'm suprised to see little love for Chill?
Day[9] is an obvious runner up... HD is (imo) pretty good aswell - as he seem to know the game better than Husky - and still puts in more energy than the core of other cast (with the exception of Husky... I mean... If you love Husky, it's gotta be 'cuz of his energy and enthusiasm, right?)
But dude, make a poll and watch Artosis go 90%+
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"I don't know if I will play professional starcraft after I graduate, but if I do I will be sure to knock Artosis out of every single tournament he joins" ~ Day9, State of the Game podcast at PAX
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Depends. Do sheth/incontrol/gretorp count? If they did, they'd be tied with Artosis (we don't know exactly how good Artosis is, except that he almost qualified for season 4, and he's high masters in Korea, and sheth/inc/gre are all relatively even with eachother) If no, Artosis easily. Day9 is obviously very good, but he hasn't played in forever, so he's not up there yet. Tasteless is definetely masters, but I think with all the casting he isn't up there Psy is in and out of the top 200 of NA
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