• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:06
CEST 01:06
KST 08:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall12HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension0Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles7[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China10
StarCraft 2
General
Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles
Tourneys
$5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2025 ACS Season 2 Qualifier Small VOD Thread 2.0 Last Minute Live-Report Thread Resource!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Summer Games Done Quick 2025! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Accidental Video Game Porn Archive
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Men Take Risks, Women Win Ga…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 564 users

Which commentator has the highest play skill level - Page 13

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 24 Next All
Buddhist
Profile Joined April 2010
United States658 Posts
March 24 2011 21:22 GMT
#241
On March 25 2011 00:42 Ohdamn wrote:
the answer is artosis.

This. No one else really comes close, in all likelihood. If day9 were good, I think we'd see the tiniest bit of evidence of the fact. We don't even know that he's master league, lol.

Tasteless is clearly master league (and has actually mentioned that fact off hand at one point), but he doesn't play at a professional level.

Artosis doesn't even get as much time to practice, due to commentating, but still hangs around a code A level of skill.

Though I guess it's worth noting, HD and Husky are both master level, but their commentary makes you think they're in gold league. So maybe there are some other commentators up at the very high master level, but just don't show it through their bad commentary.

Kellymilkies, for example, is master in korea.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
March 24 2011 21:23 GMT
#242
Sheth is good. So is Artosis.

Day[9] is debatable. Once he graduates he'll be sick though.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
March 24 2011 21:31 GMT
#243
Day 9 when he is done with studying for sure
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
March 24 2011 21:32 GMT
#244
On March 25 2011 06:22 Buddhist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 00:42 Ohdamn wrote:
the answer is artosis.

This. No one else really comes close, in all likelihood. If day9 were good, I think we'd see the tiniest bit of evidence of the fact. We don't even know that he's master league, lol.

Tasteless is clearly master league (and has actually mentioned that fact off hand at one point), but he doesn't play at a professional level.

Artosis doesn't even get as much time to practice, due to commentating, but still hangs around a code A level of skill.

Though I guess it's worth noting, HD and Husky are both master level, but their commentary makes you think they're in gold league. So maybe there are some other commentators up at the very high master level, but just don't show it through their bad commentary.

Kellymilkies, for example, is master in korea.


Umm . . no.

Kellymilkies is gold on NA and plat on SEA ><

http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/2141462/kellyMILKIES

Where do people get these ideas from . . .
powerade = dragoon blood
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
March 24 2011 21:32 GMT
#245
Artosis

He's been in the GSL before, and was one game away from qualifying again recently.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
March 24 2011 21:32 GMT
#246
Artosis is probably getting nerd chills reading this thread, but I'd also have to say Artosis. He plays Korean ladder, commentates some of the highest levels games and actually goes home and plays the game. He's even recently said since he doesn't have to cast Code A anymore that he'll become more competitive in SC2.

Day9 would be sick if his day wasn't full of dailies, college and prep work. I doubt it would take him long to become high masters if he had the time to ladder.

Tasteless smurfs + trolls the NA masters ladder cannon rushing and talking to other people about himself. I'm sure he is above average.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
bMn30
Profile Joined January 2011
United States113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 21:37:28
March 24 2011 21:35 GMT
#247
No current commentator is a pro player except for Gretorp afaik. Gretorp will commentate NASL afaik.
Most commentators that I am aware of have very little skill. This includes husky, djwheat, jp, Chill, Khaldor, thundertoss, Ascend, Micro, Vincere, et al.
Some commentators have a little bit of skill. This includes Artosis (low master, ~55%)
Rotterdam is 3,800 master 53% (3/24/11) and was a professional wc3 player.
Day9 I suppose to be a high level player.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
March 24 2011 21:36 GMT
#248
Lol are you like 5. Plz name the strongest one... lol. Artosis, but I guess you would watch these guys for their commentating not their playing strength,,,
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
vileChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada525 Posts
March 24 2011 21:37 GMT
#249
Hey I recently played artosis on ladder I thought I'd share, in terms of actual skill his mid to late game is absolutely terrible. I have another replay that I'm not going to share as i'm not his opponent so I don't feel like its mine to share but he doesn't do so hot. That being said I still have an immense amount of respect for the guy and what he does for the community, I would love to see him play more as his early build is pretty respectable.

Something makes me think SKU is day9 but I'm not entirely sure, day is retarded good though in terms of potential. If he put casting on hold for a month sat down and practiced he would blow everyone out of the water including most tip top players in NA.


http://drop.sc/2308?pass=

I'll see if i can get the other game as it is a 30 min game and kinda shows you what hes actually like in a macro game
Day[9] i've broken 6 mice, 5 keyboards, 3 pairs of headphones, and a mousepad, all from raging after starcraft losing streaks
willeesmalls
Profile Joined March 2010
United States477 Posts
March 24 2011 21:39 GMT
#250
On March 25 2011 05:25 ixi.genocide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 03:43 OldBamboo wrote:
Day is getting his M.S. in Math, right? That takes one heck of a self-disciplined mind.

I think the question is: Does Day9 have the talent to use with his genius brain and become a dominant sc2 gamer. If he can't execute all of the brilliant ideas/strategies he comes up with, then he'll be limited in how far he can go.


He's getting his M.S in a design field. I don't remember exactly what his degree is but his math degree is from Harvey Mudd.


SC2 takes all the intelligence of a prepubscent korean boy (leenock).

I suppose Day9 could formalize the strategies:

Day9's lemma: Just go fucking kill him.
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
March 24 2011 21:41 GMT
#251
Its Artosis, only caster to qualify for GSL. Nuff said.

This shouldn't even be an argument. Day9 isn't at top level because of school and Tasteless isn't what he used to be play wise imo.

Rotterdam is good, but I've never seen him enter a tourny, so maybe I'm wrong.
Got that.
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-25 04:24:21
March 24 2011 21:41 GMT
#252
incontrol
artosis
gretorp


i have no idea how good day9 so i can't actually list him. i can imagine he would be a very good player, but dunno for sure.
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
inpacktt
Profile Joined December 2010
Macedonia20 Posts
March 24 2011 21:42 GMT
#253
my vote has to go to tasteless cause he seems to know to read alot of strats but i dont know if he plays enough.
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
March 24 2011 21:43 GMT
#254
On March 25 2011 06:35 bMn30 wrote:
No current commentator is a pro player except for Gretorp afaik. Gretorp will commentate NASL afaik.
Most commentators that I am aware of have very little skill. This includes husky, djwheat, jp, Chill, Khaldor, thundertoss, Ascend, Micro, Vincere, et al.
Some commentators have a little bit of skill. This includes Artosis (low master, ~55%)
Rotterdam is 3,800 master 53% (3/24/11) and was a professional wc3 player.
Day9 I suppose to be a high level player.


You aren't too bright. Gretorp isn't that good. He's sponsored but that came from his BW days. Who is the only caster to qualify for Code A? And have gotten 1 game away at least once? Artosis. Artosis would rape Gretorp so hard he would cry while still playing.

Gretorp, you are cool and all, but Artosis is just better than you.
Got that.
cfoy3
Profile Joined January 2010
United States129 Posts
March 24 2011 21:44 GMT
#255
Wolf.
??
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
March 24 2011 21:45 GMT
#256
Definitely depends on what you mean by skill, if it's potential or if it's actual current skill.

Current skill, probably Artosis.

As for potential? Day was great in the BW days (as was Artosis) even if he wasn't among the upper echelon.
Super serious.
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
March 24 2011 21:45 GMT
#257
Definitely artosis right now like everyone is saying.
I hope day9 will get back in enough and get back into his old form, so him and artosis can continue their rivalry.
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
March 24 2011 21:47 GMT
#258
Could you just throw up a poll?

Anyway... I really love Artosis (first!... no wait...) - But I'm suprised to see little love for Chill?

Day[9] is an obvious runner up...
HD is (imo) pretty good aswell - as he seem to know the game better than Husky - and still puts in more energy than the core of other cast (with the exception of Husky... I mean... If you love Husky, it's gotta be 'cuz of his energy and enthusiasm, right?)

But dude, make a poll and watch Artosis go 90%+
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Jonas :)
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States511 Posts
March 24 2011 21:50 GMT
#259
"I don't know if I will play professional starcraft after I graduate, but if I do I will be sure to knock Artosis out of every single tournament he joins" ~ Day9, State of the Game podcast at PAX
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 24 2011 22:01 GMT
#260
Depends. Do sheth/incontrol/gretorp count? If they did, they'd be tied with Artosis (we don't know exactly how good Artosis is, except that he almost qualified for season 4, and he's high masters in Korea, and sheth/inc/gre are all relatively even with eachother)
If no, Artosis easily.
Day9 is obviously very good, but he hasn't played in forever, so he's not up there yet.
Tasteless is definetely masters, but I think with all the casting he isn't up there
Psy is in and out of the top 200 of NA
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 24 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
18:00
RO8 Round Robin Group - Day 2
Bonyth vs Dewalt
QiaoGege vs Dewalt
Hawk vs Bonyth
Sziky vs Fengzi
Mihu vs Zhanhun
QiaoGege vs Zhanhun
Fengzi vs Mihu
ZZZero.O160
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Livibee 72
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 798
ZZZero.O 160
Vindicta 9
Dota 2
syndereN422
monkeys_forever22
League of Legends
Grubby4930
Dendi1183
Counter-Strike
fl0m1768
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox502
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor294
Other Games
summit1g14660
Maynarde141
ViBE125
ROOTCatZ61
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick5078
BasetradeTV31
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH236
• davetesta36
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 20
• Pr0nogo 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21957
League of Legends
• Doublelift5442
Other Games
• Scarra2739
• imaqtpie2434
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
11h 54m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
WardiTV European League
1d 16h
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Epic.LAN
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
[ Show More ]
Epic.LAN
5 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
5 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Online Event
6 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
HSC XXVII
NC Random Cup

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
Acropolis #3
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters

Upcoming

CSL Xiamen Invitational
CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
K-Championship
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.