• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:50
CET 17:50
KST 01:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1830
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1683 users

Which commentator has the highest play skill level - Page 13

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 24 Next All
Buddhist
Profile Joined April 2010
United States658 Posts
March 24 2011 21:22 GMT
#241
On March 25 2011 00:42 Ohdamn wrote:
the answer is artosis.

This. No one else really comes close, in all likelihood. If day9 were good, I think we'd see the tiniest bit of evidence of the fact. We don't even know that he's master league, lol.

Tasteless is clearly master league (and has actually mentioned that fact off hand at one point), but he doesn't play at a professional level.

Artosis doesn't even get as much time to practice, due to commentating, but still hangs around a code A level of skill.

Though I guess it's worth noting, HD and Husky are both master level, but their commentary makes you think they're in gold league. So maybe there are some other commentators up at the very high master level, but just don't show it through their bad commentary.

Kellymilkies, for example, is master in korea.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
March 24 2011 21:23 GMT
#242
Sheth is good. So is Artosis.

Day[9] is debatable. Once he graduates he'll be sick though.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
March 24 2011 21:31 GMT
#243
Day 9 when he is done with studying for sure
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
March 24 2011 21:32 GMT
#244
On March 25 2011 06:22 Buddhist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 00:42 Ohdamn wrote:
the answer is artosis.

This. No one else really comes close, in all likelihood. If day9 were good, I think we'd see the tiniest bit of evidence of the fact. We don't even know that he's master league, lol.

Tasteless is clearly master league (and has actually mentioned that fact off hand at one point), but he doesn't play at a professional level.

Artosis doesn't even get as much time to practice, due to commentating, but still hangs around a code A level of skill.

Though I guess it's worth noting, HD and Husky are both master level, but their commentary makes you think they're in gold league. So maybe there are some other commentators up at the very high master level, but just don't show it through their bad commentary.

Kellymilkies, for example, is master in korea.


Umm . . no.

Kellymilkies is gold on NA and plat on SEA ><

http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/2141462/kellyMILKIES

Where do people get these ideas from . . .
powerade = dragoon blood
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
March 24 2011 21:32 GMT
#245
Artosis

He's been in the GSL before, and was one game away from qualifying again recently.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
March 24 2011 21:32 GMT
#246
Artosis is probably getting nerd chills reading this thread, but I'd also have to say Artosis. He plays Korean ladder, commentates some of the highest levels games and actually goes home and plays the game. He's even recently said since he doesn't have to cast Code A anymore that he'll become more competitive in SC2.

Day9 would be sick if his day wasn't full of dailies, college and prep work. I doubt it would take him long to become high masters if he had the time to ladder.

Tasteless smurfs + trolls the NA masters ladder cannon rushing and talking to other people about himself. I'm sure he is above average.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
bMn30
Profile Joined January 2011
United States113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 21:37:28
March 24 2011 21:35 GMT
#247
No current commentator is a pro player except for Gretorp afaik. Gretorp will commentate NASL afaik.
Most commentators that I am aware of have very little skill. This includes husky, djwheat, jp, Chill, Khaldor, thundertoss, Ascend, Micro, Vincere, et al.
Some commentators have a little bit of skill. This includes Artosis (low master, ~55%)
Rotterdam is 3,800 master 53% (3/24/11) and was a professional wc3 player.
Day9 I suppose to be a high level player.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
March 24 2011 21:36 GMT
#248
Lol are you like 5. Plz name the strongest one... lol. Artosis, but I guess you would watch these guys for their commentating not their playing strength,,,
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
vileChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada525 Posts
March 24 2011 21:37 GMT
#249
Hey I recently played artosis on ladder I thought I'd share, in terms of actual skill his mid to late game is absolutely terrible. I have another replay that I'm not going to share as i'm not his opponent so I don't feel like its mine to share but he doesn't do so hot. That being said I still have an immense amount of respect for the guy and what he does for the community, I would love to see him play more as his early build is pretty respectable.

Something makes me think SKU is day9 but I'm not entirely sure, day is retarded good though in terms of potential. If he put casting on hold for a month sat down and practiced he would blow everyone out of the water including most tip top players in NA.


http://drop.sc/2308?pass=

I'll see if i can get the other game as it is a 30 min game and kinda shows you what hes actually like in a macro game
Day[9] i've broken 6 mice, 5 keyboards, 3 pairs of headphones, and a mousepad, all from raging after starcraft losing streaks
willeesmalls
Profile Joined March 2010
United States477 Posts
March 24 2011 21:39 GMT
#250
On March 25 2011 05:25 ixi.genocide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 03:43 OldBamboo wrote:
Day is getting his M.S. in Math, right? That takes one heck of a self-disciplined mind.

I think the question is: Does Day9 have the talent to use with his genius brain and become a dominant sc2 gamer. If he can't execute all of the brilliant ideas/strategies he comes up with, then he'll be limited in how far he can go.


He's getting his M.S in a design field. I don't remember exactly what his degree is but his math degree is from Harvey Mudd.


SC2 takes all the intelligence of a prepubscent korean boy (leenock).

I suppose Day9 could formalize the strategies:

Day9's lemma: Just go fucking kill him.
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
March 24 2011 21:41 GMT
#251
Its Artosis, only caster to qualify for GSL. Nuff said.

This shouldn't even be an argument. Day9 isn't at top level because of school and Tasteless isn't what he used to be play wise imo.

Rotterdam is good, but I've never seen him enter a tourny, so maybe I'm wrong.
Got that.
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-25 04:24:21
March 24 2011 21:41 GMT
#252
incontrol
artosis
gretorp


i have no idea how good day9 so i can't actually list him. i can imagine he would be a very good player, but dunno for sure.
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
inpacktt
Profile Joined December 2010
Macedonia20 Posts
March 24 2011 21:42 GMT
#253
my vote has to go to tasteless cause he seems to know to read alot of strats but i dont know if he plays enough.
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
March 24 2011 21:43 GMT
#254
On March 25 2011 06:35 bMn30 wrote:
No current commentator is a pro player except for Gretorp afaik. Gretorp will commentate NASL afaik.
Most commentators that I am aware of have very little skill. This includes husky, djwheat, jp, Chill, Khaldor, thundertoss, Ascend, Micro, Vincere, et al.
Some commentators have a little bit of skill. This includes Artosis (low master, ~55%)
Rotterdam is 3,800 master 53% (3/24/11) and was a professional wc3 player.
Day9 I suppose to be a high level player.


You aren't too bright. Gretorp isn't that good. He's sponsored but that came from his BW days. Who is the only caster to qualify for Code A? And have gotten 1 game away at least once? Artosis. Artosis would rape Gretorp so hard he would cry while still playing.

Gretorp, you are cool and all, but Artosis is just better than you.
Got that.
cfoy3
Profile Joined January 2010
United States129 Posts
March 24 2011 21:44 GMT
#255
Wolf.
??
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
March 24 2011 21:45 GMT
#256
Definitely depends on what you mean by skill, if it's potential or if it's actual current skill.

Current skill, probably Artosis.

As for potential? Day was great in the BW days (as was Artosis) even if he wasn't among the upper echelon.
Super serious.
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
March 24 2011 21:45 GMT
#257
Definitely artosis right now like everyone is saying.
I hope day9 will get back in enough and get back into his old form, so him and artosis can continue their rivalry.
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
March 24 2011 21:47 GMT
#258
Could you just throw up a poll?

Anyway... I really love Artosis (first!... no wait...) - But I'm suprised to see little love for Chill?

Day[9] is an obvious runner up...
HD is (imo) pretty good aswell - as he seem to know the game better than Husky - and still puts in more energy than the core of other cast (with the exception of Husky... I mean... If you love Husky, it's gotta be 'cuz of his energy and enthusiasm, right?)

But dude, make a poll and watch Artosis go 90%+
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Jonas :)
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States511 Posts
March 24 2011 21:50 GMT
#259
"I don't know if I will play professional starcraft after I graduate, but if I do I will be sure to knock Artosis out of every single tournament he joins" ~ Day9, State of the Game podcast at PAX
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 24 2011 22:01 GMT
#260
Depends. Do sheth/incontrol/gretorp count? If they did, they'd be tied with Artosis (we don't know exactly how good Artosis is, except that he almost qualified for season 4, and he's high masters in Korea, and sheth/inc/gre are all relatively even with eachother)
If no, Artosis easily.
Day9 is obviously very good, but he hasn't played in forever, so he's not up there yet.
Tasteless is definetely masters, but I think with all the casting he isn't up there
Psy is in and out of the top 200 of NA
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 24 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
12:00
Season 13 World Championship
Creator vs SHINLIVE!
WardiTV1111
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko565
BRAT_OK 92
trigger 45
SC2Nice 33
MindelVK 14
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 4109
Sea 2080
EffOrt 1090
Larva 819
ggaemo 631
Shuttle 584
ZerO 554
Soma 405
Snow 310
Hyuk 205
[ Show more ]
Rush 177
hero 149
firebathero 114
Sharp 95
Barracks 89
Mind 88
Mong 84
Sexy 45
Yoon 37
910 30
sorry 27
Killer 27
HiyA 24
Terrorterran 17
GoRush 15
scan(afreeca) 15
ivOry 13
NaDa 12
Dota 2
Gorgc3321
qojqva2053
XcaliburYe70
Counter-Strike
fl0m3174
Other Games
Grubby2841
Liquid`RaSZi1373
B2W.Neo1213
FrodaN1053
hiko962
Beastyqt792
Mlord360
Hui .309
Fuzer 244
Sick200
ArmadaUGS154
QueenE103
oskar84
XaKoH 66
KnowMe61
Mew2King58
ZerO(Twitch)23
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2582
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HappyZerGling 133
• poizon28 12
• LUISG 4
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV469
• lizZardDota245
• Noizen41
League of Legends
• Jankos3395
• TFBlade1096
• Shiphtur84
Upcoming Events
OSC
19h 11m
All Star Teams
1d 9h
INnoVation vs soO
Serral vs herO
Cure vs Solar
sOs vs Scarlett
Classic vs Clem
Reynor vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 19h
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
All Star Teams
2 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-14
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.