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Mushin
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom15 Posts
March 21 2011 23:16 GMT
#1
I'm left-handed and currently, for historical reasons, I use a right-handed button layout on my mouse. I only use my index finger both for right- and left-clicking, as this is how I learned to do it at home.

I hadn't even considered this might be a problem until I started playing SC2 more, and started to find I wasn't fast or accurate enough with my clicking. I guess a combination of reduced speed/reactions and inaccuracy due to moving my hand position to alternate between clicks as I move the mouse, will be affecting my play. However I don't know how much work it would require to change my mouse work.

My questions are: Do any other lefties have this problem? Do you think it would be worth the effort for me to learn to use my index finger for left-clicking, and middle finger for right-clicking? How much of an improvement could I see?
Chrissy
Profile Joined March 2011
United States9 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 23:29:27
March 21 2011 23:28 GMT
#2
They make mouses for lefties.

For example - I use a Razer death adder, but they also make left handed editions if you go to the Razer site....

you can try out one of the mice =)

or.. if you like your current mouse - effort is what gets you far, and any effort is worth it.. even if the results are unsavory, there is always some improvement.

http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.182251700

this is the lefty death adder... but there should be many other mice from other companies as well



hope this helps u
-Chrissy :D
Mushin
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom15 Posts
March 22 2011 13:09 GMT
#3
Well I have a wireless Logitech mouse, which is symmetrical, but I decided it was too heavy. So I now have a basic, cheap wired mouse, which is also symmetrical. I haven't considered a left-handed mouse yet though.
Dalavita
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1113 Posts
March 22 2011 13:14 GMT
#4
I'm a leftie, no issues using the right click.

If you ever want to get good at SC2, you need to start practicing it right now
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
March 22 2011 13:17 GMT
#5
what does the right click do in sc2?
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
March 22 2011 13:22 GMT
#6
^ gives forum warnings to people who troll

@ OP you really need to get rid of the habit of using only your index finger, you will never get good enough that way. train your self hard to start using the middle or ring finger for the right click
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
shinwa
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden225 Posts
March 22 2011 13:29 GMT
#7
Just start practicing it. It wont take as long as you'd think actually. I have no experience with this exact situation, though with similar ones I've found it's quite easy to grow accustomed to by just keep practicing it and make a conscious decision not to fall back to the old habits.
Nahema
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany54 Posts
March 22 2011 13:33 GMT
#8
i think a lefty mouse would be good for you. It will force you to relearn your mouse movements and you can focus on learning it "the right way" then. Also if you relearn it anyways watch teh day9 episode on mechaniks and try to do it the way he suggest. It will take some time but u will experience great improvement.

Also good mouse control makes working on your computer mutch more enjoyable (its a subconsius thing)

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esre
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland109 Posts
March 22 2011 13:36 GMT
#9
On March 22 2011 22:17 gogatorsfoster wrote:
what does the right click do in sc2?



I know I use it but its so natural at this stage I cant remember if it selects or moves , it just does what I want it to :S
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DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
March 22 2011 13:52 GMT
#10
You should definitely try to use middle-finger more. Think about it - you have half century of using PC ahead of you, you should learn how to use mouse properly. Using both fingers is also useful for other games as well as things like mouse gesture in applications like browsers.
solistus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States172 Posts
March 22 2011 14:00 GMT
#11
Of COURSE it hampers you significantly! You need to be doing multiple actions per second to play SC well; you don't want to slow yourself down on basic tasks like selecting units or issuing right-click commands.
Units don't counter units. Strategies counter strategies.
mooose
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan200 Posts
March 22 2011 14:01 GMT
#12
Use which ever hand you are most comfortable with holding the mouse in and use 2 fingers on the mouse buttons. I'm left handed and I hold my mouse in my left hand with my middle finger on left click and my index finger on right click.

I have a left handed razer deathadder and it's great, but you don't need an expensive left handed mouse to use a mouse left handed: any symmetrically shaped mouse will do. I would recommend against mice that are shaped for right handed people though; I used to use one in my left hand and it was uncomfortable and caused pain in my hand after long periods of time.
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Stropheum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1124 Posts
March 22 2011 14:01 GMT
#13
Three things:
1: Get an ambidextrous mouse
2: Use the button layout that's comfortable for you
3: Use two fingers
Daniri
Profile Joined May 2007
387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 14:05:25
March 22 2011 14:04 GMT
#14
I read this thread earlier and didn't realize at the time how absurd it is that you're only use one finger. That's not a lefty thing. Yes, it's worth the effort to learn how to use two. Exponential improvement.

I wouldn't listen to these people blindly recommending a left handed mouse for the lefty. My personal opinion is that the keyboard is where I'd rather have my main hand; but beyond that, it's pretty simple to adjust to a left handed mouse but trying to switch your main keyboard hand to the right is painful as hell. If you managed to do it the real advantage would actually be better keyboard usability.
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XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
March 22 2011 15:37 GMT
#15
Razer Abyssus, I have one. It's symmetrical on both sides (for left and right hand use), small, acceleration-free (read up on the woes of mouse acceleration if you haven't already), gorgeous (I have the mirror edition) and just overall awesome, cheap too!
BoxedLunch
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
March 22 2011 15:39 GMT
#16
razer orochi is what I use, I'm a righty, but it's an ambidextrous mouse, which I'd highly recommend
In theory, practice and theory are the same. In practice, they are not
Sporadic44
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States533 Posts
March 22 2011 15:41 GMT
#17
as a lefty myself i have no issues with using a right handed mouse and both my fingers. just gotta teach it to yourself and then it becomes natural
"Opportunities multiply as they are seized."
Mushin
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom15 Posts
March 22 2011 16:43 GMT
#18
On March 22 2011 23:04 Daniri wrote:
I read this thread earlier and didn't realize at the time how absurd it is that you're only use one finger. That's not a lefty thing. Yes, it's worth the effort to learn how to use two. Exponential improvement.

I agree it is absurd (ha), but I've only come to that realisation after playing SC2. I've always had to use a right-handed button layout at home, and to me it just seems more intuitive to use your index finger for the main function (left-click). Without changing the button layout I'd have had to use my middle finger for the main click, which would have been more strange to me. For the vast majority of tasks outside gaming, this approach was good enough.

Thanks for the replies - it seems I have some practice to do. I played a few games earlier and kept messing up my rally points and buildings, it was quite frustrating!
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
March 22 2011 16:51 GMT
#19
While we're discussing this, I also happen to be left-handed (rather strongly dominant) but have always used the right handed computer setup. I don't believe it's had an adverse affect on computer gaming, but have there been any left handed players who switched to the left handed setup? Did it eventually help in any way?
Mushin
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom15 Posts
March 22 2011 17:16 GMT
#20
^ So you use your middle finger for left-click and index for right-click?
SchAmToo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1141 Posts
March 22 2011 18:05 GMT
#21
I'm a lefty, I keep my orientation for my mouse as "right" handed though, where in I use my middle finger for left click and index for my right click. Doesn't bother me, or impede me. I use a razer copperhead (ambidextrous) and am planning on buying a razer lachesis as my next mouse when I come across my next amount of money (I'm looking at you, tax returns).

I've had this orientation since I've used a computer. I find it best because then when I use other computers, or my friends use mine, it's a matter of positioning the mouse, not switching controls around.
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0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
March 22 2011 18:07 GMT
#22
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Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 18:12:42
March 22 2011 18:11 GMT
#23
People stopped using 1 finger on their mouse when they invented mice with two buttons. I use all 5 of my fingers on my mouse, index and middle for clicking, 4th and 5th fingers for stability on the mousepad (if you have seen wcg and saw how artosis pinky was extended outwards like that), 4th fingers also presses button 6 and 7 on my Xai, and then my thumb is used to grip, press 4th and 5th button or stability (I come from a competetive CS (cevo p) background so planting thumb, 4th and 5th fingers onto my mousepad while sniping allows me to make subtle movements with my fingers.
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Chrissy
Profile Joined March 2011
United States9 Posts
March 22 2011 20:00 GMT
#24
i don't know about you mushin,
i posted up first reply.. but I have been thinking....

Do you use your right hand for the keyboard? because I can imagine that to be pretty frustrating, no?

I know lefties who use right handed mice in their right hand, but it's all about comfort I guess...

I mean, maybe you can find a cheap lefty mouse at like Walmart or something of the sort to test it out...... and if it doesn't work out well, just return it the next day :D! lol

I think you need to experiment a little with many options. a lot of people said good things so far..
See what suites you best after experimenting, then practice with what you feel is optimal for your game play experience.

lots of luck to you,
Christina :D
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
March 22 2011 20:05 GMT
#25
I think the problem normally happens to lefties because they switch the mouse and keyboard positions to use the mouse with the left hand but never quite get used to using the buttons right. It's just something you have to force yourself to do correctly for a while.

Left-handed deathadders are also awesome but pretty much unrelated to the OP's issues.
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