On March 18 2011 22:57 shwick wrote:
IdrA
mc julys bad mcs protoss
Omg Idra bm lol!
he manage to insult 2 players in 5 words
IdrA
mc julys bad mcs protoss
Omg Idra bm lol!
he manage to insult 2 players in 5 words
IdrA has talent
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
On March 18 2011 22:57 shwick wrote: IdrA mc julys bad mcs protoss Omg Idra bm lol! he manage to insult 2 players in 5 words IdrA has talent | ||
dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On March 18 2011 22:57 turdburgler wrote: Show nested quote + On March 18 2011 22:49 Jimbizzle wrote: Why is that so hard to believe. ZvP is the hardest match up right now. For Protoss, yeah, there is a timing at around 80-90 supply where zerg can just get 150 food from roach / ling / hydra - gl to any toss dealing with that with 90 supply. GO GO July!!! you say it like a 90 supply protoss army doesnt beat 150 supply zerg. Because players like Idra, 150 supply zerg will mean 120 drones, yeah. | ||
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Noobville17921 Posts
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
On March 18 2011 23:04 dunc wrote: Show nested quote + On March 18 2011 22:57 turdburgler wrote: On March 18 2011 22:49 Jimbizzle wrote: Why is that so hard to believe. ZvP is the hardest match up right now. For Protoss, yeah, there is a timing at around 80-90 supply where zerg can just get 150 food from roach / ling / hydra - gl to any toss dealing with that with 90 supply. GO GO July!!! you say it like a 90 supply protoss army doesnt beat 150 supply zerg. Because players like Idra, 150 supply zerg will mean 120 drones, yeah. Lol? It will mean 60/70 drones, 80 at max. That leaves 120 supply left in the least for army. Which is 60 zerg units ( roach, hydra, corruptor, muta or infestor ). Stop generalizing please. | ||
Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
Also: ![]() MC, Protoss ^Sums up all the zergs qqing about PvZ. And i just noticed Idra comment.... i don't think anyone can BM like that guy, and he didn't even lost a match to make him say that :0 | ||
nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
IMNestea Q: Every Zerg that reached the finals so far has won. What are your thoughts about July's chances? A: July's situation is tougher than when FruitDealer and I went to the finals. After looking at the maps I would rate July's chances at 3 : 7, but I have trust in his experience and unpredictability. TSL.FruitDealer I hope July does not stress himself out while training, and have trust in his macromanagement skills. I know that it's very easy to get stressed out while training. It will be extremely hard to win, and I hope he comes to the finals as relaxed as possible. MVP.Genious I think oGsMC will win, although I hope he doesn't because then it will take that much longer to take the Protoss number 1 spot from him. I can help with July's training if he wants me to. SOURCE | ||
Sabu113
United States11047 Posts
On March 18 2011 23:11 Chaosvuistje wrote: Show nested quote + On March 18 2011 23:04 dunc wrote: On March 18 2011 22:57 turdburgler wrote: On March 18 2011 22:49 Jimbizzle wrote: Why is that so hard to believe. ZvP is the hardest match up right now. For Protoss, yeah, there is a timing at around 80-90 supply where zerg can just get 150 food from roach / ling / hydra - gl to any toss dealing with that with 90 supply. GO GO July!!! you say it like a 90 supply protoss army doesnt beat 150 supply zerg. Because players like Idra, 150 supply zerg will mean 120 drones, yeah. Lol? It will mean 60/70 drones, 80 at max. That leaves 120 supply left in the least for army. Which is 60 zerg units ( roach, hydra, corruptor, muta or infestor ). Stop generalizing please. I think the statement was a bit tongue and cheek. Point still stands. Zerg's advantage feels like it's around that 7-10 or 8-12 minute mark before toss has much of a ball and a zerg can flood roaches to discourage any movement out. (ofc ability to apply counterpressure can be difficult) | ||
Beastyqt
Serbia516 Posts
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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alepov
Netherlands1132 Posts
On March 18 2011 23:02 fabiano wrote: Show nested quote + On March 18 2011 22:57 shwick wrote: IdrA mc julys bad mcs protoss Omg Idra bm lol! he manage to insult 2 players in 5 words IdrA has talent didnt really insult mc though :p | ||
j3i
United States357 Posts
Either way, these will be fun games to watch. I'd rather see an aggressive zerg that can play mindgames. Most other zergs are boring as hell. | ||
Ksyper
Bulgaria665 Posts
People that aren't even in the GSL say July sucks :D July plays to win that's why he does all those baneling busts and other weird stuff that people think is bad, but if it was bad why did he make it to the finals? IdrA made this macro heavy style popular, but zerg can be aggressive in SC2, even on the very highest level. But MC crushed July before so I think he'll do it again. I'm still hoping that July thinks of something awesome to destroy MC it would be the greatest GSL final ever. Go July! | ||
j3i
United States357 Posts
On March 18 2011 22:31 BlazeFury01 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 18 2011 22:29 Frankon wrote: MInd says MC. Heart says July. When July wins i want to see Idra and his "July is bad. He doesnt macro as good as I" lol we've seen plenty of games where idra gets his "macro style game" and still loses lol so he needs to drop the "I'm the worlds best macroer" because he clearly isn't. I've seen him float thousands of minerals in his so called "macro game" lol Probably because he's already maxed and you need to float those minerals to remax quickly | ||
Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
ZvP is very hard right now, so this will make it much harder for July to win, plus MC is a brutally good player. The thing that suprises me about how people are receiving July is they seem to think he is a one trick pony, which is the opposite. Artosis sounds the way he does when July does something odd because he knows July can do anything. He can Idra style macro, he can cheese, he can play aggressively or passively. That is, his style is that he has no style, and you cannot predict what he will do. As soon as someone starts thinking he can only play 1 way they have already lost. With that said, July is a big time underdog, but i believe the only thing standing between him and victory is motivation. I should add that July has only done blind cheese 2 of his games this seasongame 2 v MVP and the 6 pool, everything else as been reactionary play. Vs NaDa he got preasured by a bunker attack, then NaDa double expanded behind a wall with a few marines, a baneling bust as a reaction to this greedy play is the right call. Other than the two games i mentioned they have either been straight up macro play or reactionary aggression. | ||
Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
On March 18 2011 23:32 Sabu113 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 18 2011 23:11 Chaosvuistje wrote: On March 18 2011 23:04 dunc wrote: On March 18 2011 22:57 turdburgler wrote: On March 18 2011 22:49 Jimbizzle wrote: Why is that so hard to believe. ZvP is the hardest match up right now. For Protoss, yeah, there is a timing at around 80-90 supply where zerg can just get 150 food from roach / ling / hydra - gl to any toss dealing with that with 90 supply. GO GO July!!! you say it like a 90 supply protoss army doesnt beat 150 supply zerg. Because players like Idra, 150 supply zerg will mean 120 drones, yeah. Lol? It will mean 60/70 drones, 80 at max. That leaves 120 supply left in the least for army. Which is 60 zerg units ( roach, hydra, corruptor, muta or infestor ). Stop generalizing please. I think the statement was a bit tongue and cheek. Point still stands. Zerg's advantage feels like it's around that 7-10 or 8-12 minute mark before toss has much of a ball and a zerg can flood roaches to discourage any movement out. (ofc ability to apply counterpressure can be difficult) Here's the thing though, protoss doesn't HAVE to win around 7 or 10 minutes. Whereas zerg in the midgame needs to have chipped away a fair deal from the protoss forces to be on even footing for the lategame. If a protoss simcities well and turtles on 3 bases, making sure to not be caught off guard by drops or silly tech switches, zerg has no chance in hell to break the protoss. A zerg on 5 bases is just as lethal to a protoss as a zerg on 3 bases, maybe even less lethal considering less army goes to supply. But due to the protosses immense defenders advantage ( and toss has more incitive to , 200/200 protoss army IS the most costefficient army there is hands down.) zerg has no bussiness taking on the army unless it actually moves out of the base. Combined this with the fact that MC is a pretty damn fine macro-player, I believe we will see july attack in the midgame, but MC defending amazingly, and eventually crushing through july's tattered economy. TL DR; Zerg has to win in the early or midgame, protoss doesn't need to win in the early or midgame. July always attacks in the midgame; MC defends and wins. | ||
iG.Zeep
Mexico253 Posts
On March 18 2011 23:40 Saechiis wrote: Surprisingly little mention of the fact that MC is just a better player than July at the moment, regardless of race. It's sad that if MC stomps July it'll be called Protoss imba while if July wins he'll be proclaimed a God, just like Fruitdealer. He's already a God... July gonna show all u lamos whos boss~ | ||
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