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xlat
176 Posts
with the launch of sc2 i started following non-koreans and will continue to do so, however my heart is still in the korean scene since it is where i get the highest level of play. just as i rather watch champions league and spanish/english series than some crummy swedish match in fotboll. im happy to pay the (for me at least) low cost for the great quality in streaming and vods, and compared to say, the last iem, the level of quality in organization and professionalism is so much higher. | ||
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Krallin
France431 Posts
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Longshank
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krazymunky
United States727 Posts
On March 11 2011 02:13 xlat wrote: just as i rather watch champions league and spanish/english series than some crummy swedish match in fotboll. haha so true. whenever i watch MLS on tv...i cant watch it more than 10 mins. and then decide to watch something else. makes me want to watch Premier League or any other major european league even more. Same goes for starcraft. Sure I like watching foreigners play, but in the end GSL is where the highest level of play is. Doesnt matter that i dont 'associate' with the korean players. | ||
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Ciddypoo
United States11 Posts
I often find myself just skimming through matches that don't involve players that I don't care about, because it doesn't affect the players I do care about very much. A team environment encourages me as a viewer to care about the results of other players, which in turn makes me watch their games and usually increases my interest in the more nameless players. | ||
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proxY_
United States1561 Posts
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HolydaKing
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Kazang
578 Posts
I think the way the group stage works really screws the tournament, since it's essentially double elim best of one, which is a terrible format for SC2. Anything can happen in single game and one bad game the first round can essentially cost a player the whole tournament, I feel Nestea going out was the best example of this. Would he have lost a Bo3 to SanZenith or oGsEnsnare? I can't say for sure obviously but I think it's safe to say he would have a much much higher chance of winning a Bo3 than Bo1. Just leaves me feeling like the tournament doesn't mean that much when such proven strong players get knocked out by a terrible group format. Are any of the players in the Top 4 capable of beating oGsMC in a Bo5 or Bo7? I highly doubt it, July has got a good shot but MC pretty much has the whole thing won already, he just has to not fuck up and play as well as he has show he can. The finals will be even more anti-climatic than his roflstomp of Rain in S3. | ||
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aScPraiise
United States100 Posts
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
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SushilS
2115 Posts
Sorry but Im jus tired off the many "Im tired of this...", "I'm fed up of that...", "Not interesting me anymore...." type threads that pop up so often. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Don't be so dam negative all the time. Artosis and Tasteless are much better than they were at the start. Todays cast was really polished and hilarious at the same time. And the new casters are great too, bringing a bit of needed variety to the casts. | ||
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Cpadolf
Sweden1199 Posts
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Dominator1370
United States111 Posts
Take for example (American) Football. I watch the Super Bowl, because it's the Super Bowl. I watch most of the playoff games leading up to it, regardless of who's playing, because it's the playoffs. When it comes to the regular season games, though, I tend to only really follow the hometeam games, and maybe watch some other games if they happen to be on. I just don't have the time or inclination to ensure I see every game that gets played anywhere. I assure you it isn't because everyone from Chicago or Las Angeles is Asian. The hometeam factor is a strong one, and it has nothing to do with racism. For the average person, that's how following sports works: there's a player (or team, or whatnot) that they really like, and they watch their games. They might watch some other games sometimes, especially if it's a really big game, but largely, they follow a specific group of individuals. The hardcore fans are different, but there are a lot more casual viewers than hardcore fans out there. This is something the NASL has recognized. People follow players, or teams. Skill is nice, but if the hometeam is the worst team in the league, everyone will still watch their games. By attempting to create more content and insert more of a narrative behind and between the games, this is what the NASL is trying to encourage. They're trying to create situations where you really get behind your favorite players.They want to really play up the drama between players with histories together, and the like. The average person doesn't care if the very best player in the world isn't in the game they're watching, they want to feel a connection with the players and cheer for them when they win. It's different for hardcore fans. It always is. It's also different for players. If I'm trying to learn how to do something, I'm more likely to try to find the people who do it best than to just follow people I'm a fan of. What you need to keep in mind is that growing any sport requires getting buy-in from people who aren't playing it at a high level, and that requires more narrative than player skill. Getting Americans, or Europeans, to buy into eSports doesn't work so well if the major proponents of them are 16 year old kids with a very different cultural background and on the other side of a very large ocean (or Russia, which is also very large). It's not that everyone hates Asians, it's just much easier to relate to someone who lives a block away from you, to say nothing of national pride. In short, the GSL is an established league with the most skilled players in the world, and will continue to be followed by people who play this game at a high level. For people who don't play at a high level or perhaps have no inclination to play at all, the approach the NASL is taking is a huge step forward. | ||
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i_am_immure
United States67 Posts
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noD
2230 Posts
elimination of the best players | ||
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Jayrod
1820 Posts
I was thinking the NASL thing would peak my interest more when the news first dropped, but the more I hear about it the less I like it. I dunno, maybe iNControl will somehow become a good caster before it starts, but im not holding my breath. I don't think the level of competition will be all that high in comparison to the other events out there just because of the limitations to teams and the fact that some of the best players in the world might not be involved. Seriously... a major foreign tournament without Whitera... something is wrong. Even when he doesn't perform well he provides some of the most entertaining games out there. I especially though Russel's comment on State of the Game a couple weeks ago was stupid about how in the NBA you have to be on a team to play. Competitive Starcraft is in a 1v1 format... .its not a team game. Of course if you're playing a team game, like basketball, you would need a team. They took this great concept with a great goal and turned the entire thing into an afterthought. I just hope I'm wrong cause I want to see some good games. | ||
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kaztah
Norway1221 Posts
I'm not quite sure if I watch GSL for the starcraft or for artosis+tasteless commentaries, because the moment they're not on, it's just boring. They're easily carrying the entire show, and makes it enjoyable, no matter who plays or how boring 1 base all in builds that's involved. | ||
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Ayush_SCtoss
India3050 Posts
Usually, I have school when its running but when I do have the chance to watch, I will do anything I can to watch it. Sure, a lot of the big names went out early but that didn't lower my excitement. I still got to see good games as well as some lackluster games. | ||
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brutality
United States167 Posts
on a simmilar note, why are so many people trying to poke holes in the GSL or the upcoming NASL? There is litterally no reason to complain about the game we love reaching this level. I could give two sh***s if the production value of the NASL is horrible (which it won't be). I'll still buy the premium ticket AND watch it live b/c I love this game. The GSL has the best players in the world competing, sad to see previous champions out so early No reason to say you're bored with it. Fine. Good. Leave. But don't make a thread trying to put down something that is great for esports and great for this game.rant over | ||
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