Is your interest in GSL lowering? - Page 21

xlat

176 Posts

March 10 2011 17:13 GMT

#401

i watched bw for many years while hardly knowing the name of any foreigner players.
with the launch of sc2 i started following non-koreans and will continue to do so, however my heart is still in the korean scene since it is where i get the highest level of play.

just as i rather watch champions league and spanish/english series than some crummy swedish match in fotboll.

im happy to pay the (for me at least) low cost for the great quality in streaming and vods, and compared to say, the last iem, the level of quality in organization and professionalism is so much higher.

Krallin

France431 Posts

March 10 2011 17:20 GMT

#402

No, and I've even picked up watching GSL in class with my phone -_-

Longshank

1648 Posts

March 10 2011 17:28 GMT

#403

I wouldn't say my interest in GSL in general has gone down but this particular season is rather dull now but that's because all the players I'm rooting for(foreigners, Lyn, Moon etc) are out.

krazymunky

United States727 Posts

March 10 2011 17:48 GMT

#404

On March 11 2011 02:13 xlat wrote:
just as i rather watch champions league and spanish/english series than some crummy swedish match in fotboll.

haha so true. whenever i watch MLS on tv...i cant watch it more than 10 mins. and then decide to watch something else. makes me want to watch Premier League or any other major european league even more.

Same goes for starcraft. Sure I like watching foreigners play, but in the end GSL is where the highest level of play is. Doesnt matter that i dont 'associate' with the korean players.

Ciddypoo

United States11 Posts

March 10 2011 17:51 GMT

#405

I just want something similar to proleague once there's enough of a playerbase. I feel a lot of disconnect with the teams that are playing. I feel that it's a lot more fun to be able to root for your favorite team (that may have your fave players, but a couple that you dislike) than to just pick and choose individuals.

I often find myself just skimming through matches that don't involve players that I don't care about, because it doesn't affect the players I do care about very much. A team environment encourages me as a viewer to care about the results of other players, which in turn makes me watch their games and usually increases my interest in the more nameless players.

proxY_

United States1561 Posts

March 10 2011 17:52 GMT

#406

With the recent showing of Koreans at IEM it's clear that gsl is still the premier league in the sport right now and Tasteless and Artosis also provide the best commentary (Day9 is in the conversation but he too often gets marred with bad co-casters at tournaments). Plus the subscription and vods are incredibly easy and user friendly to navigate and they're up an hour or two after the games were played. MLG and IEM really can't compete in that regard, the NASL will definitely be good but I don't see it surpassing gsl, the best it can do is probably matching it.

HolydaKing

21254 Posts

March 10 2011 17:52 GMT

#407

I'm kind of equally interested in both, so i didn't vote... But if the Code S finals is gonna be a Protoss mirror, i probably won't even watch it

Kazang

578 Posts

March 10 2011 17:57 GMT

#408

I think this season was a bit weird and while it's had some great games, it's also had a lot of really quite lacklustre play as well.

I think the way the group stage works really screws the tournament, since it's essentially double elim best of one, which is a terrible format for SC2.
Anything can happen in single game and one bad game the first round can essentially cost a player the whole tournament, I feel Nestea going out was the best example of this. Would he have lost a Bo3 to SanZenith or oGsEnsnare? I can't say for sure obviously but I think it's safe to say he would have a much much higher chance of winning a Bo3 than Bo1.

Just leaves me feeling like the tournament doesn't mean that much when such proven strong players get knocked out by a terrible group format.
Are any of the players in the Top 4 capable of beating oGsMC in a Bo5 or Bo7? I highly doubt it, July has got a good shot but MC pretty much has the whole thing won already, he just has to not fuck up and play as well as he has show he can.
The finals will be even more anti-climatic than his roflstomp of Rain in S3.

aScPraiise

United States100 Posts

March 10 2011 17:58 GMT

#409

the GSL is very relevant in a sense that there are big names, and a bigger drive to increase skill for the game being that these players are shown live. Even if there are alot of upsets or you dont get to see your favorite player make it to the finals, none the less this is proving my point that players will naturally improve there skill on all levels to perform well at these events and thats all we can ask for. I personally think the GSL is getting better and better. Everything will always have cracks in it when it is new so just give it time and show your support.

Dental Floss

United States1015 Posts

March 10 2011 18:01 GMT

#410

The GSL is excellent I think. Code S is still where the best players are showing off. I think tastosis is really hitting their stride as well. I actually bought a ticket for the first time this week because I just had to see the VODs this season.

SushilS

2115 Posts

March 10 2011 18:04 GMT

#411

BS thread... stop creating these snowball theories and ideas. If you find your interest in something lowering keep it to yourself imo...
Sorry but Im jus tired off the many "Im tired of this...", "I'm fed up of that...", "Not interesting me anymore...." type threads that pop up so often.

Klive5ive

United Kingdom6056 Posts

March 10 2011 18:04 GMT

#412

There should be a "I watch it more, it's got better" option.
Don't be so dam negative all the time.

Artosis and Tasteless are much better than they were at the start. Todays cast was really polished and hilarious at the same time.
And the new casters are great too, bringing a bit of needed variety to the casts.

Cpadolf

Sweden1199 Posts

March 10 2011 18:05 GMT

#413

It has been lowering, but that's actually just because since GSTL I've not been able to buy tickets, despite trying. My card gets rejected (even though I can pay with it just fine on for example Steam), and I don't want to sign up with paypal (because there is absolutely no reason for why I should have to). So basically I've just had to watch whatever I can live (not a lot), and the rest I miss.

Dominator1370

United States111 Posts

March 10 2011 18:12 GMT

#414

The "I only want to watch the absolute best players" phenomenon is certainly very interesting, but in a lot of ways it's a concept that doesn't hold up so well when compared with leagues for other sports.

Take for example (American) Football. I watch the Super Bowl, because it's the Super Bowl. I watch most of the playoff games leading up to it, regardless of who's playing, because it's the playoffs. When it comes to the regular season games, though, I tend to only really follow the hometeam games, and maybe watch some other games if they happen to be on. I just don't have the time or inclination to ensure I see every game that gets played anywhere. I assure you it isn't because everyone from Chicago or Las Angeles is Asian. The hometeam factor is a strong one, and it has nothing to do with racism.

For the average person, that's how following sports works: there's a player (or team, or whatnot) that they really like, and they watch their games. They might watch some other games sometimes, especially if it's a really big game, but largely, they follow a specific group of individuals. The hardcore fans are different, but there are a lot more casual viewers than hardcore fans out there.

This is something the NASL has recognized. People follow players, or teams. Skill is nice, but if the hometeam is the worst team in the league, everyone will still watch their games. By attempting to create more content and insert more of a narrative behind and between the games, this is what the NASL is trying to encourage. They're trying to create situations where you really get behind your favorite players.They want to really play up the drama between players with histories together, and the like. The average person doesn't care if the very best player in the world isn't in the game they're watching, they want to feel a connection with the players and cheer for them when they win.

It's different for hardcore fans. It always is. It's also different for players. If I'm trying to learn how to do something, I'm more likely to try to find the people who do it best than to just follow people I'm a fan of. What you need to keep in mind is that growing any sport requires getting buy-in from people who aren't playing it at a high level, and that requires more narrative than player skill. Getting Americans, or Europeans, to buy into eSports doesn't work so well if the major proponents of them are 16 year old kids with a very different cultural background and on the other side of a very large ocean (or Russia, which is also very large). It's not that everyone hates Asians, it's just much easier to relate to someone who lives a block away from you, to say nothing of national pride.

In short, the GSL is an established league with the most skilled players in the world, and will continue to be followed by people who play this game at a high level. For people who don't play at a high level or perhaps have no inclination to play at all, the approach the NASL is taking is a huge step forward.

i_am_immure

United States67 Posts

March 10 2011 18:13 GMT

#415

I definitely am losing interest. It's great to follow during the summer, when you don't have a job or school. I just can't see anyone with a normal job or school schedule in the United States or Canada staying up till 7am to watch the gsl. I mean I know if you buy a premium ticket you can watch the VODs, but it's just not the same as watching a tournament live. I'm sure if i lived in aussie and could watch it at 8pm it would be a completely different story. Its not that the gsl is getting worse, its just on at a horrible time.

noD

2230 Posts

March 10 2011 18:14 GMT

#416

Since they killed the site I used to download vods + + Show Spoiler +

elimination of the best players

I m not interested in watching even tho it´s on my free time

Jayrod

1820 Posts

March 10 2011 18:17 GMT

#417

I did the premium ticket for the first time this season and was not going to renew it. With kelly malinakis gone I probably will now renew it to be honest.

I was thinking the NASL thing would peak my interest more when the news first dropped, but the more I hear about it the less I like it. I dunno, maybe iNControl will somehow become a good caster before it starts, but im not holding my breath. I don't think the level of competition will be all that high in comparison to the other events out there just because of the limitations to teams and the fact that some of the best players in the world might not be involved. Seriously... a major foreign tournament without Whitera... something is wrong. Even when he doesn't perform well he provides some of the most entertaining games out there. I especially though Russel's comment on State of the Game a couple weeks ago was stupid about how in the NBA you have to be on a team to play. Competitive Starcraft is in a 1v1 format... .its not a team game. Of course if you're playing a team game, like basketball, you would need a team. They took this great concept with a great goal and turned the entire thing into an afterthought. I just hope I'm wrong cause I want to see some good games.

kaztah

Norway1221 Posts

March 10 2011 18:17 GMT

#418

I've bought every season ticket and watched most of the matches, but my interest in code a is basicly all but gone now.

I'm not quite sure if I watch GSL for the starcraft or for artosis+tasteless commentaries, because the moment they're not on, it's just boring.

They're easily carrying the entire show, and makes it enjoyable, no matter who plays or how boring 1 base all in builds that's involved.

Ayush_SCtoss

India3050 Posts

March 10 2011 18:18 GMT

#419

Not at all.
Usually, I have school when its running but when I do have the chance to watch, I will do anything I can to watch it. Sure, a lot of the big names went out early but that didn't lower my excitement. I still got to see good games as well as some lackluster games.

brutality

United States167 Posts

March 10 2011 18:22 GMT

#420

these threads man...you make it sound that just because you're losing interest, means the whole community is losing interest. so glad the poll destroyed your argument.

on a simmilar note, why are so many people trying to poke holes in the GSL or the upcoming NASL? There is litterally no reason to complain about the game we love reaching this level. I could give two sh***s if the production value of the NASL is horrible (which it won't be). I'll still buy the premium ticket AND watch it live b/c I love this game. The GSL has the best players in the world competing, sad to see previous champions out so early

No reason to say you're bored with it. Fine. Good. Leave. But don't make a thread trying to put down something that is great for esports and great for this game.

rant over

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