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Strivers
Profile Joined November 2010
United States358 Posts
March 10 2011 12:28 GMT
#841
whats her league and rating?
These little dudes really like the blue stuff..
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
March 10 2011 12:28 GMT
#842
On March 10 2011 21:21 PraetorianX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 21:17 Slakter wrote:
Seriously, I know that this really has nothing to do with this topic since Kelly didnt get fired because of how good she was at casting but still... Seriously, look at older GOM-tournaments from Brood war. We had freaking Super Daniel Man and noone complained... Know why? Because we watched starcraft for the game and the casters were just a bonus, not the reason in itself...


For us who didn't follow BW, who was Super Daniel Man and was he bad at his job, or what?


He was really awesome. He casted with tasteless for gomtv for awhile.
There's no S in KT. :P
tattoos and creep
Profile Joined February 2011
France15 Posts
March 10 2011 12:28 GMT
#843
Im pretty sure no girls will make it to be honest... we guys are a bunch of nerds afraid of girls.
Terran ost is OP
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
March 10 2011 12:29 GMT
#844
On March 10 2011 21:28 Strivers wrote:
whats her league and rating?


What's yours and what has that got to do with anything?
There's no S in KT. :P
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
March 10 2011 12:38 GMT
#845
On March 10 2011 21:28 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 21:21 PraetorianX wrote:
On March 10 2011 21:17 Slakter wrote:
Seriously, I know that this really has nothing to do with this topic since Kelly didnt get fired because of how good she was at casting but still... Seriously, look at older GOM-tournaments from Brood war. We had freaking Super Daniel Man and noone complained... Know why? Because we watched starcraft for the game and the casters were just a bonus, not the reason in itself...


For us who didn't follow BW, who was Super Daniel Man and was he bad at his job, or what?


He was really awesome. He casted with tasteless for gomtv for awhile.

Exactly, but he had even more accent than Kelly yet noone complained...
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
March 10 2011 12:43 GMT
#846
On March 10 2011 21:38 Slakter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 21:28 Baarn wrote:
On March 10 2011 21:21 PraetorianX wrote:
On March 10 2011 21:17 Slakter wrote:
Seriously, I know that this really has nothing to do with this topic since Kelly didnt get fired because of how good she was at casting but still... Seriously, look at older GOM-tournaments from Brood war. We had freaking Super Daniel Man and noone complained... Know why? Because we watched starcraft for the game and the casters were just a bonus, not the reason in itself...


For us who didn't follow BW, who was Super Daniel Man and was he bad at his job, or what?


He was really awesome. He casted with tasteless for gomtv for awhile.

Exactly, but he had even more accent than Kelly yet noone complained...


People have higher expectations now and prefer white guys it seems. There's koreans that can cast in perfect english. I guess Gom rather have the viewers choose than just find someone they like.
There's no S in KT. :P
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
March 10 2011 14:53 GMT
#847
On March 10 2011 21:16 thebig1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 21:14 Huckleuro wrote:
Her heart was well and truly in the right place, but her standard was no where near that of what the GSL should and do set themselves.

But why all the hate? I dont get it, has the WoW crowd flocked to sc2 recently?


Well put.

It's not recent, they've been here from the start...

Well,WoW arena people from what i remembered overly criticizes some casters as well so yeah
smacky
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States108 Posts
March 10 2011 14:54 GMT
#848
now she know how grack fields....this is sad

i liked her and she will be missed
all i want is flying zerglings....fling!! make it a micro
Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
March 10 2011 14:56 GMT
#849
I just listened to that SDM, who supposedly got a worse accent than Kelly. He doesn't. Next to that, he has a low voice, not incredibly high-pitched and I think annoying as Kelly's. I think Kelly knew a lot about the game, but she's not good as a caster.
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xsevR
Profile Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
March 10 2011 14:59 GMT
#850
I thought the accent was ok but am happy to see her go. Cute girls are awesome for TV, but that's just not why people watch Starcraft. My main issue was just how little she seems to know about the game and how many other casters there are out there that are easier to understand. Maybe if she improved a lot and came back that would be fine, but as of now this is great for the GSL.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
March 10 2011 15:29 GMT
#851
On March 10 2011 20:37 tyCe wrote:


Secondly, she lacks the interpersonal skills or proficiency of the English language to interact with her co-caster synergistically. Oftentimes, she has disregarded a conversion started by her co-caster and proceeded to say something completely irrelevant. It leaves her co-caster hanging and makes for awkward transitions and moments. In that way, she does not provide support for her co-caster in the manner that Artosis and Tasteless often do, saving each other from awkward silences due to overly lame jokes or completely off-topic statements. Her deficiency is not due to a lack of time to gel with DoA, as DoA does his workload of the "gelling" fine enough. Crucially, her mistakes are often very basic. She oftentimes ignores what DoA (or Artosis or Tasteless) has said and just recites a line that she had clearly conjured while her co-caster was trying to dialogue with her. This is commentary symbiosis 101. In fact, it is also plain good manners.



Thank you for arguing my point better than I could. I was beginning to think I was the only one that noticed that her ability to listen and engage in actual dialogue was pretty poor.

To be honest, I think this critical flaw would be more apparent if she looked less like a cute girl and more like Husky or HD.
GagnarTheUnruly
Profile Joined July 2010
United States655 Posts
March 10 2011 15:33 GMT
#852
On March 10 2011 21:28 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 21:21 PraetorianX wrote:
On March 10 2011 21:17 Slakter wrote:
Seriously, I know that this really has nothing to do with this topic since Kelly didnt get fired because of how good she was at casting but still... Seriously, look at older GOM-tournaments from Brood war. We had freaking Super Daniel Man and noone complained... Know why? Because we watched starcraft for the game and the casters were just a bonus, not the reason in itself...


For us who didn't follow BW, who was Super Daniel Man and was he bad at his job, or what?


He was really awesome. He casted with tasteless for gomtv for awhile.


He was a coach for a BW pro team (don't remember which one), which he stopped doing to cast for GOM, so he was/is very knolwedgable. Not a fan of SC2 though...
PukinDog
Profile Joined September 2010
United States131 Posts
March 10 2011 15:33 GMT
#853
Okay, look.

She's a nice girl, a nice person. GOMtv is a Professional Organization. Okay, we got that out of the way.

Look, it is not a "Rexus", or a "Lexus", but a NEXUS. It's not a "Race-Car" or a "Herron", but a HELLION. Paying customers should NOT have to perform real-time translation while watching a match. Its that simple. I was one of those rooting for Kelly, but come on people, yesterday was worse than ever. With her determination, she will do fine in other ventures, but casting isnt her gig. It just isnt. That is not sexist or racist, or anything accept fact.

I wish her well, and I wish GOM had the foresight to have not divided the community in this way in the first place.
You must macro like every SCV is bringing not minerals, but Pie.
Sixotanaka
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia191 Posts
March 10 2011 15:37 GMT
#854
I liked Kelly, she was enthusiastic, and her accent really wasn't too bad. I've had lecturer's way worse.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
March 10 2011 15:41 GMT
#855
On March 11 2011 00:33 GagnarTheUnruly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 21:28 Baarn wrote:
On March 10 2011 21:21 PraetorianX wrote:
On March 10 2011 21:17 Slakter wrote:
Seriously, I know that this really has nothing to do with this topic since Kelly didnt get fired because of how good she was at casting but still... Seriously, look at older GOM-tournaments from Brood war. We had freaking Super Daniel Man and noone complained... Know why? Because we watched starcraft for the game and the casters were just a bonus, not the reason in itself...


For us who didn't follow BW, who was Super Daniel Man and was he bad at his job, or what?


He was really awesome. He casted with tasteless for gomtv for awhile.


He was a coach for a BW pro team (don't remember which one), which he stopped doing to cast for GOM, so he was/is very knolwedgable. Not a fan of SC2 though...


that would only make another SDM cast even more awesome
:3
EvilZergling
Profile Joined September 2010
United States194 Posts
March 10 2011 15:42 GMT
#856
There are a ton of nasty comments related to this thread, I am surprised it didn't get shut down.

I for one am glad that she is leaving GOM as it obviously didn't work out. I wasted far too much time trying to decipher what she was saying that I was missing all of the action happening at the time.

That being said she is not getting fired as she was never hired on permanently, GOM is just trying out different casters for Code A and getting a feel for them and how the community reacts to them to get an idea of who they should keep, so keep supporting the Casters for Code A that you enjoy on GOM's forums and keep providing our feedback for the Casters that you do not like but in a professional manner.

Should work itself out.
CC first, or die trying. [http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=438152#11]
Rob28
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada705 Posts
March 10 2011 15:44 GMT
#857
If your job is to communicate in real-time with a large audience, you might want to stick to speaking to an audience in your native language.

I'm not harping on her accent; English is a hard language to master if it isn't your first... but I wouldn't try to provide commentary for things in French when I only have a very rusty basic ability to speak the language. Why should the rest of the world feel obligated to do that very thing when it's English?
"power overwhelming"... work, dammit, work!
Sixotanaka
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia191 Posts
March 10 2011 15:50 GMT
#858
On March 11 2011 00:33 PukinDog wrote:
Okay, look.

She's a nice girl, a nice person. GOMtv is a Professional Organization. Okay, we got that out of the way.

Look, it is not a "Rexus", or a "Lexus", but a NEXUS. It's not a "Race-Car" or a "Herron", but a HELLION. Paying customers should NOT have to perform real-time translation while watching a match. Its that simple. I was one of those rooting for Kelly, but come on people, yesterday was worse than ever. With her determination, she will do fine in other ventures, but casting isnt her gig. It just isnt. That is not sexist or racist, or anything accept fact.

I wish her well, and I wish GOM had the foresight to have not divided the community in this way in the first place.



Did you hate Tasteless for calling Ursadon "Panda bear guy?" Because when it's an American Male they can be as cute as they like, right?
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
March 10 2011 15:51 GMT
#859
On March 11 2011 00:50 Sixotanaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 00:33 PukinDog wrote:
Okay, look.

She's a nice girl, a nice person. GOMtv is a Professional Organization. Okay, we got that out of the way.

Look, it is not a "Rexus", or a "Lexus", but a NEXUS. It's not a "Race-Car" or a "Herron", but a HELLION. Paying customers should NOT have to perform real-time translation while watching a match. Its that simple. I was one of those rooting for Kelly, but come on people, yesterday was worse than ever. With her determination, she will do fine in other ventures, but casting isnt her gig. It just isnt. That is not sexist or racist, or anything accept fact.

I wish her well, and I wish GOM had the foresight to have not divided the community in this way in the first place.



Did you hate Tasteless for calling Ursadon "Panda bear guy?" Because when it's an American Male they can be as cute as they like, right?

lol yeah, you have to be fair - casters are allowed to nickname units.

Although it's usually better when an established caster does it, because the audience isn't new to them in general.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
March 10 2011 15:52 GMT
#860
People who compare Kelly to SDM are grasping at straws. SDM's english wasn't top tier but he didn't shriek when the action started to get heavy. The worst part of the last code A matches has been the monotone high pitch screaming from Kelly whenever there is something epic going down.
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