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Tiegrr
United States607 Posts
On February 26 2011 22:38 cilinder007 wrote: you do know there is such a thing as a colossus right ? You do realize that Terran have Vikings right? And with this incoming patch, tech switching seems less viable. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On February 26 2011 22:40 Thezzy wrote: What Protoss would ever go Zealot+HT against Mech? The only mech unit that is decent against Protoss is a Blue Flame Hellion. Tanks die so painfully to Chargelots it isn't even funny and you need a big amount of tanks for them to be worth anything. Thors die to upgraded Colossi aswell as Chargelots, not to mention Void Rays which hurt Mech plenty and Thors even more. I'd love to go Mech against Protoss, I really would, but in its current state it is horribly bad against a wide variety of things Protoss can throw at it and then I haven't even brought up Immortals. what's the point of this post ?? a whine post ? ... | ||
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DusTerr
2520 Posts
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Farmerz
39 Posts
that would simply break HT's neck, better make storm cost 80 and armulet give +20 energy, so we dont need to wait 2 minutes to have 1 storm and then have a useless HT standing there | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On February 26 2011 22:42 Tiegrr wrote: You do realize that Terran have Vikings right? And with this incoming patch, tech switching seems less viable. so this is how you want to argue -_- ok....you do know protoss have pheonix right ? | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On February 26 2011 22:43 Farmerz wrote: i cannot believe that ppl actually believe that patch is good for protoss or at least worse for terran than for protoss. can u imagine what that HT nerf actually does to protoss when playing on those big maps that were added? you have certainly almost no chance against bigger drops, what you wanna do? warpin zealots and stalker and hope for the best for defending MMM ? ^^ have fun, nowadays the costs kinda even eachother when the toss pays attention. with that patch every drop (which is fairly easy to execute) makes the toss lose like tripple the money that the terran used. not to mention that terrans economy is slightly better anyways due to mule use. that would simply break HT's neck, better make storm cost 80 and armulet give +20 energy, so we dont need to wait 2 minutes to have 1 storm and then have a useless HT standing there you can make pheonix to stop drops and with bigger maps they will be even more viable | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
High Templar : nerfing HTs is a really dumb thing to do, we want to see more of them and less collossii, not the opposite. Infestors : The health buff won't change anything, and the fungal growth change is pretty bad imo. I have no problem with the projectile, but the duration nerf is terrible. Yes, you have an higher dps, but you rarely use fungal growth to actually kill something. You use it to delay something. I really don't understand that choice, that was unneeded. I guess the other changes are okay. | ||
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Jotoco
Brazil1342 Posts
Like, while stimmed Marines Max Life is actually reduced, so it can only be healed after it ends. Problem solved, IMO. Other damage can be healed instantly, though. | ||
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Tiegrr
United States607 Posts
On February 26 2011 22:43 cilinder007 wrote: so this is how you want to argue -_- ok....you do know protoss have pheonix right ? Phoenix counters Vikings since when? | ||
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Krede
Denmark139 Posts
- Loss counts are no longer displayed in Profile and Ladder pages for players below Master League. holy christ, are they for real? | ||
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Silkk
United States41 Posts
On February 26 2011 22:43 Farmerz wrote: i cannot believe that ppl actually believe that patch is good for protoss or at least worse for terran than for protoss. can u imagine what that HT nerf actually does to protoss when playing on those big maps that were added? you have certainly almost no chance against bigger drops, what you wanna do? warpin zealots and stalker and hope for the best for defending MMM ? ^^ have fun, nowadays the costs kinda even eachother when the toss pays attention. with that patch every drop (which is fairly easy to execute) makes the toss lose like tripple the money that the terran used. not to mention that terrans economy is slightly better anyways due to mule use. that would simply break HT's neck, better make storm cost 80 and armulet give +20 energy, so we dont need to wait 2 minutes to have 1 storm and then have a useless HT standing there This... It's going to be extremely interesting to see how late game Protoss will handle drops... People have been floating around the idea of leaving units at expos to defend. This does effectively lower the numbers in the deathball... | ||
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Phyxx
Denmark681 Posts
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Geisterkarle
Germany3257 Posts
"immune to damage" I understand. But "un-targetable"? For every player or only the vortex-user? So the units are all "stunned" for 1.5 seconds? Or can they move around? Or even attack? If the last two are "ok", then I see myself putting my own units into the vortex and running immortal speedlots into the enemy! | ||
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Velocity`
United Kingdom343 Posts
Afraid so, I don't know why Blizzard implemented this. It's not a huge deal but I liked being able to look at the losses of other players. I guess it just shows that Blizzard are sort of bad at making any good decisions regarding changes to the game. A few of them have been quite nice though, but largely it's quite appalling. The Shakuras one is a fine example. | ||
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vileChAnCe
Canada525 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
http://www.justin.tv/rootcatz/b/280412952 (starts around 15 min mark) | ||
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DrGreen
Poland708 Posts
On February 26 2011 22:44 cilinder007 wrote: you can make pheonix to stop drops and with bigger maps they will be even more viable Make Medivacs Light and then i agree. Actually it takes FOREVER to kill a medivac. | ||
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andrewwiggin
Australia435 Posts
People are so funny. I PROMISE you this. Players will still go for HT tech, because it's still a VIABLE option. Not the best, and not as good as it used to be. But still an option. Think about this scenario. You have your gateway units, and your colossi death ball. But say.. .terran is there. And he's just massing up on MM and vikings. How cheap are vikings? REALLY CHEAP. So if he knows what your composition is, he can hard counter the colo with HEAPS of vikings. Enough to snipe a few colo before your stalkers can blink (haha lol i love my own jokes). So what do most protoss do? TECH SWITCH! Guess what. The amulet removal doesn't stop or slow down or affect a terran's ability to mass vikings quickly AT ALL, or a zerg's ability to spawn 15 corrupters before you can say 'fuckmedead'. So those situations will still happen. And if you don't switch tech to HT... well. Then you're going to die to hard counters very VERY very very very very very quickly. P.S - DO you reckon someone like oGsMC is going to stop using HT because of this? No. They're just going to warp them in earlier, and use them more efficiently. | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
PROTOSS Mothership Units leaving the Mothership's Vortex are now un-targetable and immune to damage for 1.5 seconds. High Templar Khaydarin Amulet upgrade (+25 starting energy) has been removed. This is the first time that I'm really pissed from a patch, Jesus Christ Blizzard why do you give the races techpaths, if you force em to play one of it in nearly every lategame anyway? | ||
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vvJustice
30 Posts
On February 26 2011 22:38 cilinder007 wrote: you do know there is such a thing as a colossus right ? My god you are ignorant of course I know I play toss but that's not what I'm trying to talk about kiddo. Not all protoss players want to or should go Colossus every game kid. User was warned for this post | ||
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