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JeBi
United States44 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:06 Serpico wrote: ....they doubled the mineral cost and added 100 gas? That's gigantic. Yeah, it's not in the patch notes so maybe it's some type of glitch. Have tested on multiple maps though (custom games with friend) and they cost the same across the board. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:04 MaRkieMarK wrote: Duration is halfed and it's not instant anymore though, so it feels more like a nerf. Duration / 2 = DPS * 2. It now deals 36 damage over 4 seconds. Medivacs can't heal that. So marines/scvs will just die soooo fast to it. Its definately a buff. If you can dodge the spell - its good for the game since it takes skill - if not and its like EMP (nearly instant) I think it might be too much of a buff. | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:02 emecee wrote: sentries and the fact that units clump up more in starcraft 2 makes you're rebuttal flawed. How so? Isn't the clumping the reason for the reduced AoE? | ||
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Predateur
Canada79 Posts
Templar are already underused, if you nerf something, you got to buff something else. They should at least put 1 upgrade on templar on the archive, like faster energy regeneration or something else IMO. Barbu.255 Master Protoss | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:04 MaRkieMarK wrote: Duration is halfed and it's not instant anymore though, so it feels more like a nerf. Duration is halfed, but DPS is therefore doubled. DPS vs. Armored is MASSIVELY increased. This makes it much better against Protoss balls with Colo, either Colo/Sentry or the Colo/VR build that Idra called imba. 6 infestors to fungal the ball 2-3 times in a row not only counters the imba ball much better than a "Build 20 mutas and hope he's not going Phoenix or 6 gate" build (the best counter yet devised), it's also less of an investment, and infestors are still useful vs 6 gates or Phoenix builds. Blizzard is starting to balance the game around macro maps (yay!) so the time duration isn't that bad. It's still long enough to keep marines from spreading against banelings, and slowing the Terran army isn't quite as vital on maps larger then Steppes. Dealing with drops is a little harder, though, but only a little. I'm calling it an Infestor buff, and a rather big one at that. | ||
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Bonham
Canada655 Posts
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JeBi
United States44 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
patch 1.5: blink upgrade removed for stalkers patch 1.6: warp gate upgrade removed patch 1.7: cybernetics core required for building gateway, gateway required to build cybernetics core....FU Protoss, love blizz | ||
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
On February 26 2011 17:11 Salivanth wrote: Actually, I think WhiteLight has an incredibly good point. Of course, BW didn't have Colossi, so the question will be "Are High Templar worth the difficulty?". After all, in Brood War, if you wanted AoE damage, as far as I know, you were stuck with High Templar or Reavers. There was literally nothing else, and High Templar were certainly the better option. Colossi on the other hand do the role of the High Templar very well, and they are undoubtedly easier to use. If High Templar and Colossi are even in power, I will always go Colossi. Always. If the enemy gets a dozen Corruptors or Vikings, I would tech switch, but until I have to, Colossi all the way. They're just easier to use. My two cents. A bit late but this is not a fair comparison because Zealots and dragoons were stronger in BW while tier 1 Z and T were relatively weaker | ||
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Olmer
Poland320 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:18 PlaGuE_R wrote: patch 1.4: charge upgrade removed for zealots patch 1.5: blink upgrade removed for stalkers patch 1.6: warp gate upgrade removed patch 1.7: cybernetics core required for building gateway, gateway required to build cybernetics core....FU Protoss, love blizz Nah, you know NOTHING. The first thing to go will be the Thermal Lance for sure. | ||
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Zaphid
Czech Republic1860 Posts
Removing literally one of the most exciting events in the game (archon toilet) makes me a sad panda, nerf it with cast time, make it a missile, anything, just leave it in. It makes games fun to watch, deathball does not. | ||
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Joementum
787 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:18 PlaGuE_R wrote: patch 1.4: charge upgrade removed for zealots patch 1.5: blink upgrade removed for stalkers patch 1.6: warp gate upgrade removed patch 1.7: cybernetics core required for building gateway, gateway required to build cybernetics core....FU Protoss, love blizz Go play Zerg for a few weeks, then complain. Zerg is by far the weakest race right now. | ||
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Drium
United States888 Posts
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
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sagefreke
United States241 Posts
150/100. Pretty significant I thought. Makes detection really expensive. | ||
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Archvil3
Denmark989 Posts
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B-Wong
United States240 Posts
 anyone else have any previous input or anything on this? | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:28 B-Wong wrote: Dunno if this has been discussed before (forgive me if it has, I don't have the time to search through 68 pages of discussion) but there's alerts for macro mechanics now! Chrono, MULE, and spawn larva now get a notification. I think it's cool but at the same time it's kind of dumbing down the game a little more anyone else have any previous input or anything on this?Going from playing P to T over the last week or so I found it very handy that the mule dying makes a giant clanking/exploding noise that's really hard to miss, so I think it's fair the other races get reminders of a sort. Not sure if the MULE one is really that critical since them dying is so obvious anyway. | ||
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