EPTPatch 1.3 on PTR - Page 60
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Crushgroove
United States793 Posts
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PepperoniPiZZa
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
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HowardRoark
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WeedRa
Germany815 Posts
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
On February 26 2011 16:11 Traveler wrote: It is more like broodwar in that getting vortex/stasis'ed did not mean your army was gone when it ended... if I am a zerg player who is maxed, I simply cannot engage a mothership army without knowing that half my army is guaranteed to die without doing any damage... that doesn't leave me without a lot of options... you can throw a tonne of banelings in there. it is expensive, but so is mothership archon. | ||
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MrGreyness
Australia35 Posts
Perhaps a reasonable compromise would be if the amulet upgrade was temporary and after X amount of time expired and would need to be researched again. This way it can drain the Protoss of some resources in exchange for warp in storms. | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
nestea vs san, san goes for the archon toilet, makes the game spectacular, and nestea actually goes many blings, so san couldn't do the archon toilet. was hilarious to watch, pretty exciting, why get rid of it -_- | ||
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dLKnighT
Canada735 Posts
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
On February 26 2011 16:17 PepperoniPiZZa wrote: Is there any way for an EURO to play on the PTR? Having a NA account. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On February 26 2011 16:16 Crushgroove wrote: Anyone know if PDD stops it? Legitimate question if its a projectile now... Probably not since yamato cannon, seeker missile, EMP, nuclear missile, etc are all spells that launch missiles and they do not get hit by PDD (that is PDD currently doesn't target missiles created by spells). | ||
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Traveler
United States451 Posts
On February 26 2011 16:21 Elefanto wrote: + Show Spoiler + nestea vs san, san goes for the archon toilet, makes the game spectacular, and nestea actually goes many blings, so san couldn't do the archon toilet. was hilarious to watch, pretty exciting, why get rid of it -_- Except he actually did the archon toilet and killed almost all of nestea's army at one point in the game... if I remember correctly he got a whole bunch of broodlords with it. The problem with it is that lategame banelings simply aren't viable against it, storm will kill them, then the mothership can vortex when they are dead, and everything else dies then... On February 26 2011 16:25 kNyTTyM wrote: Biggest surprise is no or very little change to ZvP. I guess infestor will help against toss but I really felt like a corrupter buff or colossus nerf was incoming. I wish I could find the zergs that really feel that zvp is balanced so I could leech their style. Yeah, I would have loved a corruptor damage or attack speed buff, seems like collosi are just so strong in the midgame versus zerg... | ||
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Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
On February 26 2011 16:18 HowardRoark wrote: Can someone from USA thoroughly tell us about the new infestor, or upload videos please? There are videos somewhere in this thread already. I'd try looking on youtube. | ||
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Adonisto
Canada191 Posts
"SC2 Public Test server is not available right now. Please check http://www.battle.net/sc2/game/ptr/ for more information." | ||
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Anarcho
2 Posts
I already was sort of feeling like EMP is hard to deal with at times. But now if my HTs get EMPed I have no way to come back from that. I wouldn't mind this HT nerf if EMP became an upgrade. | ||
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Namu
United States826 Posts
On February 26 2011 16:21 Carrierhasarrived wrote: Can't say I like the P changes. Warp in storms may have been difficult to deal with late game, but in TvP early game, the onus is on the Protoss to pull off those forcefields to stay alive, I felt it fair that the onus moved to the terran in the late game to utilise ghosts in order to defend themselves from storm. Perhaps a reasonable compromise would be if the amulet upgrade was temporary and after X amount of time expired and would need to be researched again. This way it can drain the Protoss of some resources in exchange for warp in storms. Whole point is that the stim pack nerf (which was aimed at TvZ) lessens the early Terran advantages of map control/aggression, so they wanted to weaken Protoss' late game vs Terran. However, I do agree that complete removal of amulet is a bit extreme. | ||
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AzurewinD
United States569 Posts
The removal of multiple pieces of staple gameplay (in this case upgrades) from the game over 6 months after the game is already released, signifies a fundamentally flawed design process. There's just no two ways about it. Why couldn't Blizzard figure out in alpha, or beta, or 1 month, or 2 months after release that there was no need for Flux Vanes? What was the nail in the coffin that finally made them drop the hammer? Why has it taken them this long to come to the conclusion that Khaydarin Amulet isn't needed? What was the nail in the coffin here? Ultimately, it seems like incredibly lazy design to conclude the only way to balance the game is to completely slash entire elements from it instead of attempting to find ways to make them coexist. The Blizzard team has essentially waved the white flag and conceded that their original design plans for these upgrades were so BAD that they need to be completely erased because their very existence is inextricably broken. So why was it ever there in the first place? We've spent over 6 months of release time playing with this, and now its going to be completely gone. This is just terrible terrible game design sense. Discovering that multiple elements in your game are superfluous is something that should be ironed out in beta, not months after release. If they keep going this route, Protoss is inevitably going to end up with a bunch of empty tech buildings with no upgrades. Frankly I'm surprised they haven't tried to pull this happy horseshit with any of the scores of Terran upgrades that go untouched in almost every game. This is borderline amateurish decision making and shouldn't be expected from a game of this high caliber. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
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Spawkuring
United States755 Posts
On February 26 2011 16:28 Adonisto wrote: The PTR is up right now? Some people have been able to connect and test some of the new changes but since the beginning I always have the same message: "SC2 Public Test server is not available right now. Please check http://www.battle.net/sc2/game/ptr/ for more information." I think that happens because your Launcher is outdated. Try playing the live version and see if it updates, and try the test server again. If not, then delete the Test folder in your Starcraft II directory and try redownloading the PTR again. | ||
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Teeny
Austria885 Posts
bcs getting faster, why not make carriers little faster too | ||
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