EPTAre you going to fix the brackets? March Madness is going on now, just look at their bracket and adjust yours so it's right -_-. Honestly no one will take this seriously if the 1 and 3, and 2 and 4 seeds are set to play in the round of 8.
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ChrysaliS_
United States261 Posts
Are you going to fix the brackets? March Madness is going on now, just look at their bracket and adjust yours so it's right -_-. Honestly no one will take this seriously if the 1 and 3, and 2 and 4 seeds are set to play in the round of 8. | ||
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MorNin
United States443 Posts
On March 18 2011 10:34 CursedFeanor wrote: Here's an honest question. Will the lag and desync issues be fixed for the NASL stream? I've been watching the Gosucoaching stream for the GCPL and the lag, while being moderate, is very annoying and would certainly be unacceptable for a more serious and professional league such as GSL or what the NASL aims to be. The audio/video desynchronization also is absolutely essential and should be fixed for the NASL. I believe the cause is probably hardware related or could be possibly due to low internet bandwidth. Whichever the case, the source of the problem needs to be determined and fixed. For the record, I'm not the only one experiencing this issue with your stream and my computer + internet connection are absolutely not at fault here. I'd really like that this would be acknowledged at the very least, because this could discourage many from buying NASL products, including myself. They have already addressed this, it was due to one comp running the rep slower than the other.. And if you didnt know they will do alot of post production to eliminate any technical issues.. everything else you posted is irrelevant :/ | ||
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CursedFeanor
Canada539 Posts
On March 18 2011 11:01 MorNin wrote: They have already addressed this, it was due to one comp running the rep slower than the other.. And if you didnt know they will do alot of post production to eliminate any technical issues.. everything else you posted is irrelevant :/ you're wrong. the IdrA vs TLO match that streamed 15 minutes ago was laggy as hell. so the problem was NOT adressed. | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On March 18 2011 11:04 CursedFeanor wrote: you're wrong. the IdrA vs TLO match that streamed 15 minutes ago was laggy as hell. so the problem was NOT adressed. Well NASL won't be casting off replays. They will record it live as it happens, only they will delay showing that live recording till the next day so they can add graphics and stuff. | ||
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
On March 18 2011 11:04 CursedFeanor wrote: you're wrong. the IdrA vs TLO match that streamed 15 minutes ago was laggy as hell. so the problem was NOT adressed. Um, the NASL is going to be casted live as it is played and replayed later. The GCPL is being casted from replays. There is a difference | ||
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OCsurfeR
United States195 Posts
On March 18 2011 11:07 zerglingsfolife wrote: [Um, the NASL is going to be casted live as it is played and replayed later. The GCPL is being casted from replays. There is a difference Speaking for the GCPL, Actually, MANY GCPL matches were and are cast live. For example in last night's 3rd place EG vs Liquid GCPL matchup, only the IdrA matches were from replays, ALL the other matches last night were cast live, not from replay. On March 18 2011 10:34 CursedFeanor wrote: Here's an honest question. Will the lag and desync issues be fixed for the NASL stream? I've been watching the Gosucoaching stream for the GCPL and the lag, while being moderate, is very annoying and would certainly be unacceptable for a more serious and professional league such as GSL or what the NASL aims to be. The audio/video desynchronization also is absolutely essential and should be fixed for the NASL. I believe the cause is probably hardware related or could be possibly due to low internet bandwidth. Whichever the case, the source of the problem needs to be determined and fixed. For the record, I'm not the only one experiencing this issue with your stream and my computer + internet connection are absolutely not at fault here. I'd really like that this would be acknowledged at the very least, because this could discourage many from buying NASL products, including myself. Also speaking for the GCPL, we do acknowledge that due the high quality of the GCPL stream, which is FAR higher than almost every other professionally broadcasted stream out there today, that some folks with slower computers, video cards and/or internet connections may have to substantially lower the stream resolution in order to make the stream watchable on their systems. For our European viewers, we've already acknowledged that Justin.tv is working out issues to make the stream less laggy in the EU, but it is not really within Gosucoaching's control to improve this unless we just broadcast in a lower resolution, which our fans have told us emphatically not to do. We are working closely with Justin.tv to constantly improve the way broadcasts are received all over the World. | ||
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UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
Plus, if I leave it after on some woman comedian starts talking about "fat pants" WTF? I can understand adverts and stuff on the programming, but on the actual hype video itself? Isnt this somewhat counter-productive? Leaves me with a cheap taste in my mouth. I though this was about high production values? | ||
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mardi
United States1164 Posts
On March 18 2011 10:58 ChrysaliS_ wrote: QUESTION Are you going to fix the brackets? March Madness is going on now, just look at their bracket and adjust yours so it's right -_-. Honestly no one will take this seriously if the 1 and 3, and 2 and 4 seeds are set to play in the round of 8. Yea, 1st seed should play the 8th seed and the 2nd seed should play the 7th seed. | ||
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Thorantham
United States221 Posts
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
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GrackGyver
61 Posts
On March 19 2011 04:13 OCsurfeR wrote: Also speaking for the GCPL, we do acknowledge that due the high quality of the GCPL stream, which is FAR higher than almost every other professionally broadcasted stream out there today, that some folks with slower computers, video cards and/or internet connections may have to substantially lower the stream resolution in order to make the stream watchable on their systems. I'm sure everyone appreciates all your efforts but really this kind of statement is insulting more than anything else. It's obvious there was a problem either on your or Justin.tv's end. Personally I've tried turning your stream down to 720, 480, etc. and it was still significantly laggy, this on a really high speed internet connection that has no issues with other 1080 streams. And no, I don't have a "slower computer". Would just be nice if you acknowledged problems on your end rather than blaming it on "folks with slow internet or slow computers". Everyone understands that technical issues can happen. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On March 21 2011 21:24 TheBB wrote: How do you get 16 people from five 4-man brackets? Ranks 11-30 are making up the five 4-man brackets. They will get five spots amongst themselves. Five brackets, winner gets a spot. Or are you referring to something else? | ||
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Skytalker
Sweden671 Posts
On March 21 2011 21:34 Bobster wrote: Ranks 11-30 are making up the five 4-man brackets. They will get five spots amongst themselves. Five brackets, winner gets a spot. Or are you referring to something else? nvm | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On March 21 2011 21:39 Skytalker wrote: i think he is referring to the 16 bottom players that goes out. I don't get it, the only five 4-man brackets are the ranks 11-30 ones. But if he's referring to the bottom 16, they haven't explicitly said how they determine those. Probably points (it does say "remaining players ranked" on the upper left), but positions, or a combination of the two is also an option (I'd personally go for the combination - 8th, 9th and 10th ranked of each division + the worst 7th placed player on points make up the bottom 16). | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
Oh, right, it's only to rank 30. Then the question remains, how do you determine the bottom 16? (Yes I saw your other post.) | ||
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WGarrison
United States96 Posts
A couple reasons for this. 1. You want to protect your top seed. The green seed could be anybody, a dark horse or anything. This seed will be much harder for the top seed to prepare for (less time as he is completely unknown until two weeks before), and could possibly be an unknown with little information about him. This is more dangerous for the top seed than lowest seed from blue would be. 2. There are to "Stories" you want to protect. You want to have the stories available for the champion top seed that crushes everything, and the story of the unlikely last minute underdog winning it all. When the top seed plays the open tournament winner first round, you kill one of your stories off the bat. 3. It is possible for top seed to hit the open tournament winner in the finals. This would be an amazing story. Remember the season that the open winner went 4-2 against the top seed in the finals. Well we wont have that opportunity with the current bracket. 4. Adds veiwer value to the 6-11 seed match. 1-16 already has veiwer value due to top seed. With the open winner in the 6-11 seed match it becomes more featured. 5. Seeding below the open tournament entry is a valid consequence for players who do not qualify for the championship through divisional seeding. Blue tournament matches are the ones competing for the final spots 11-16 and not making that means elimination. Its kinda weird to be playing for either 15+ seed or being knocked out, should be 16th and final spot or out. Blue is rightfully below green in this case. 6. It is possible for players who play well enough to garuntee that they will not have to play a random payer. One of the advantages now of placing 1st in your division is knowing the player you have to play against in match 1 in the championship. You have to be 2nd place in your division to have to play the green open winner. Please consider seeding the green open player as 11th over the blue qualifiers 12-16. I think this will improve the otherwise brilliant bracket. | ||
NonY
8748 Posts
On March 19 2011 04:13 OCsurfeR wrote: Speaking for the GCPL, Actually, MANY GCPL matches were and are cast live. For example in last night's 3rd place EG vs Liquid GCPL matchup, only the IdrA matches were from replays, ALL the other matches last night were cast live, not from replay. Also speaking for the GCPL, we do acknowledge that due the high quality of the GCPL stream, which is FAR higher than almost every other professionally broadcasted stream out there today, that some folks with slower computers, video cards and/or internet connections may have to substantially lower the stream resolution in order to make the stream watchable on their systems. For our European viewers, we've already acknowledged that Justin.tv is working out issues to make the stream less laggy in the EU, but it is not really within Gosucoaching's control to improve this unless we just broadcast in a lower resolution, which our fans have told us emphatically not to do. We are working closely with Justin.tv to constantly improve the way broadcasts are received all over the World. I think there's a problem with the way justin.tv allows the viewer to reduce the bit rate. That is, the only way that the viewer can reduce the bit rate is to simultaneously reduce the resolution of the video. Viewers whose connections can handle a 1.5mbps stream must reduce the height from 720 to 480 or 360 in order to get a bit rate their connection can handle. The issue is that the stream would be better quality at 1.5mbps and 720 than 1.5mbps and 480 or 360. And since the bottleneck for most viewers is connection speed, and not the ability to view 720x1280 video, resolution adjustment isn't the best solution available. A better solution would be for NASL to stream at a lower bit rate. And I know your free stream will be 800kbps but then that's quite a bit lower quality than 1.5mbps or 2.0mbps would be. So all the folks who have about a 2mbps connection are going to be getting significantly lower quality than they have to get. So yeah I realize this would then cause you to have to have 3 simultaneous streams, since you don't wanna replace the 3mbps nor double (or more) the 800kbps stream. But anyway I figured you guys are probably trying to make sure everyone has the best stream quality that they can possibly get and you might've just assumed that jtv's resolution options would accomplish that and it seems to me that they might not so I wanted to let you know! | ||
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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