EPT[G] Comprehensive SC2 League and Ladder Guide - Page 68
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Arghmyliver
United States1077 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12224 Posts
On January 11 2013 06:26 Arghmyliver wrote: Hey so like - I just went 5-0 in my HOTS placements and got rank 100 bronze. What gives? Is this normal? You're rank 100 because you start with 0 points, 0 points puts you at the bottom of your division so that much is normal. Your league placement is determined by who you face in your placements, so if all you play are low-ranked players then you'll end up in a low rank yourself even if you win (but especially if you lose). That's decidedly less normal, but the amount of active players in the beta is quite a bit lower than in the live game. | ||
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iPesT
United States1 Post
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Arghmyliver
United States1077 Posts
On January 11 2013 07:44 Excalibur_Z wrote: You're rank 100 because you start with 0 points, 0 points puts you at the bottom of your division so that much is normal. Your league placement is determined by who you face in your placements, so if all you play are low-ranked players then you'll end up in a low rank yourself even if you win (but especially if you lose). That's decidedly less normal, but the amount of active players in the beta is quite a bit lower than in the live game. Nice - so I got screwed because there weren't any high level players online? Maybe that's why my placements were so damn easy. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On January 11 2013 07:49 Arghmyliver wrote: Nice - so I got screwed because there weren't any high level players online? Maybe that's why my placements were so damn easy. Not necessarily. It's possible (I'd say even likely) that placement was bugged when you placed, particularly on beta. Also, last we checked, HOTS maintains separate matchmaking ratings for unranked and ranked play, and if you screwed around in unranked games (or left a lot of them) it may have used your unranked rating as an initial guess for your ranked rating. This could have matched you against much worse players than you should have been playing. | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Dujek
United Kingdom276 Posts
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On January 20 2013 11:54 Dujek wrote: Today I won a lot of games in a row, and now I have been favoured against all my opponents for the last 7 or 8 games. Could someone explain why I am favoured? Shouldn't my MMR just start matching me up with equal opponents? My points are higher than the rest of my division now, but compared to other divisions I have really low points. Your league point score increases faster than your MMR if you have a long record, so until you stabilize and MMR catches up, you'll be favored. | ||
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12224 Posts
On January 26 2013 09:18 Zheryn wrote: Is there a cap on how big bonus pool you can have, or can you accumalate bonus pool for like 6 weeks and then spend them all? The only cap is the length of the season, so the short answer is no. Of course, you couldn't skip 3 seasons' worth of time then start with 3 seasons' worth of bonus pool, you would only get as much bonus pool as the current season has accumulated. | ||
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JacobNX01a
United States65 Posts
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12224 Posts
On January 27 2013 07:07 Najda wrote: Is there a known number for the point differential between masters and grandmasters? And is it different per server? The value you're looking for is called the "offset." It is different per server, and the value changes every season based on the prior distribution's valuation of the 200th-best player. For example, in May 2012, the offset between Master and Grandmaster was 463.xxxx on the US server. This means that a 1463 Master player would be equivalent to a 1000 Grandmaster player, factoring out bonus pool. | ||
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1031prime
5 Posts
The guide states that the populatapologies istribution is 20% per league. SC2rankings however shows that Bronze alone is close to 40%. Is the 20% split just Blizzaed's goal or that SC2rankings is not accurate? My apologies if this has already been addressed. I admit I didnt go through all 70 pages. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On January 29 2013 01:06 1031prime wrote: Is the 20% split just Blizzaed's goal or that SC2rankings is not accurate? Probably some of both. The way the ranking system works, in which people only shift around in the league distribution when they play games, means that their targets for percentages of players will only ever be goals. Also, the site takes a while to collect data, so information about distributions can be a mix of data in which some of it is weeks out of date. This can also affect how valid some aggregate data is. However, in this particular case, that bulge in the distribution in Bronze has been pretty stable, so I'd say this is less of an issue. | ||
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NubainMuscle
South Africa423 Posts
Last night I was promoted to platinum. However, I noticed several players in my gold division were also promoted last night. Looking at my platinum league, it looks like +50% are recent additions, and several of these players don't even have any current ladder stats (they are listed at 0 wins this season). Does battle.net sometimes distribute mass promotions in order to re-balance the demographic of the game? In other words, are players leaving and/or going inactive and creating a void in leagues that needs to be filled. The promotion was a little bizarre and now does not feel merit based judging by the composition of the league. In my opinion, since there are so many divisions per league, blizzard should try to find a way to categorize players on the basis of their activity and place them in leagues accordingly. It's meaningless to "compete" for a Top 8 spot when only 25 players in your division are playing, and only the Top 10-15 with any semblance of regular activity. I am definitely a gold-platinum level player and would like to play opponents of a similar skill set but it's frustrating to wait for a diamond or master league promotion where I can only hope to compete in a division filled with skilled, active players. I wish there was a solution for this. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12224 Posts
On February 06 2013 01:18 NubainMuscle wrote: Question: Last night I was promoted to platinum. However, I noticed several players in my gold division were also promoted last night. Looking at my platinum league, it looks like +50% are recent additions, and several of these players don't even have any current ladder stats (they are listed at 0 wins this season). Does battle.net sometimes distribute mass promotions in order to re-balance the demographic of the game? In other words, are players leaving and/or going inactive and creating a void in leagues that needs to be filled. The promotion was a little bizarre and now does not feel merit based judging by the composition of the league. In my opinion, since there are so many divisions per league, blizzard should try to find a way to categorize players on the basis of their activity and place them in leagues accordingly. It's meaningless to "compete" for a Top 8 spot when only 25 players in your division are playing, and only the Top 10-15 with any semblance of regular activity. I am definitely a gold-platinum level player and would like to play opponents of a similar skill set but it's frustrating to wait for a diamond or master league promotion where I can only hope to compete in a division filled with skilled, active players. I wish there was a solution for this. They have been known to restructure the league boundaries in the past, but that doesn't happen often and it's especially rare for it to happen in the middle of a season (which I believe has happened only once before?). It's pretty noticeable when that happens because a lot of people will report their league changes and the Battle.net forums blow up with "I just got promoted but I suck" "hey me too what's going on" "this is crazy guys did something break?" I would imagine that it's not very easy to categorize people based on activity at the time they're placed or promoted because you don't know how active they will be after that. Some players just do their placement match for a season then stop. How do you differentiate those players from the ones who get placed in your division then go on to play a thousand games? I also presume you mean "be ranked among" skilled active players, since you're already matched up against them. The activity measure has been a failing of the division system since the beginning, but that's not a problem limited to SC2 either. Even in a game like chess, if I raise my rating from 1500 to 1600 and three years ago you raised your rating from 1500 to 1550 and quit playing, then I'm "better" than you but only because you don't play anymore. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
P.S. the player I was talking about was nicknamed zaz and you can find him by his barcode friend: top GM zerg, EU, with the least games played among top 15 or so. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
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