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Cubbieblue66
Profile Joined June 2011
95 Posts
August 04 2011 23:18 GMT
#721
On August 05 2011 08:13 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 07:11 Cubbieblue66 wrote:
Standard 1v1 laddering. Platinum League, for what it's worth. If you'd like to take a look at my profile, you can find it here.

It just happened again. In the postgame it says even match and +12 point, with a +1 bonus... and I still have 7 points left in my pool (having had 8 before the match).

I hope it's just a display bug. Because if I'm not getting all my ladder points I deserve (and as a middling player, badly need) I'm gonna be a sad panda.


Is your system clock correct? You wouldn't happen to be one day in the future, would you? =)


HA! That was it.

I just built this computer in the last week. I guess everything else I was doing got me distracted.
Ksis
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland28 Posts
August 05 2011 07:22 GMT
#722
I got some question to You couse i want to be sure i understood topic as i should.
Last season i was 2267 Diamond with 75 bonus remaining.(72-40)
Now i am http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2202329/NrSKsis

I am gaining like 20-21 points every game, and i am losing 2-3 points.

The question is: Is my MMR that high and i will need to make my MMR=Points, or is my MMR that low that everyone is favored.

Last season i was playing only vs 1500-1900 Masters and many Grandmasters ( even from first 20).
I got ratio vs GM like 45% wins. I had only about 6-7 games vs Diamond in season 2.

This season i started vs 3 GM and won only once, then i won 1-2 GMs aswell. Other games vs high masters.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
August 05 2011 07:24 GMT
#723
On August 05 2011 16:22 Ksis wrote:
I got some question to You couse i want to be sure i understood topic as i should.
Last season i was 2267 Diamond with 75 bonus remaining.(72-40)
Now i am http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2202329/NrSKsis

I am gaining like 20-21 points every game, and i am losing 2-3 points.

The question is: Is my MMR that high and i will need to make my MMR=Points, or is my MMR that low that everyone is favored.

Last season i was playing only vs 1500-1900 Masters and many Grandmasters ( even from first 20).
I got ratio vs GM like 45% wins. I had only about 6-7 games vs Diamond in season 2.

This season i started vs 3 GM and won only once, then i won 1-2 GMs aswell. Other games vs high masters.


Your MMR is so high that your points are trying to catch up. It's your points which are compared to your opponent's MMR, and that determines the favored-unfavored stuff.
Ksis
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland28 Posts
August 05 2011 07:45 GMT
#724
So when player at 500 points gaining 12-14 points for win, it mean his MMR is much more lower then mine ? As i have almost 500 aswell.

Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
August 05 2011 08:00 GMT
#725
On August 05 2011 16:45 Ksis wrote:
So when player at 500 points gaining 12-14 points for win, it mean his MMR is much more lower then mine ? As i have almost 500 aswell.



Generally yes, if that's a trend you notice. Your points will drift toward your MMR. As you are playing against harder opponents, your points will rise faster and leave behind that 500-point player.
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Ksis
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland28 Posts
August 05 2011 08:05 GMT
#726
Doesnt points make a different when we join GM league ? I rly dont know should i pump mass games or keep my bonus pool just low and w8 till Wendsday.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
August 05 2011 08:17 GMT
#727
On August 05 2011 17:05 Ksis wrote:
Doesnt points make a different when we join GM league ? I rly dont know should i pump mass games or keep my bonus pool just low and w8 till Wendsday.


No, points have no impact on promotion eligibility at all. When you get promoted, your points are reset anyway but you retain any bonus pool that you've spent.
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Neliz
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden18 Posts
August 05 2011 09:52 GMT
#728
Can you get promoted straight from bronze to gold? Very nice guide btw, I can now yell at my friends for not knowing how the system works!^^
It's a fap!
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
August 05 2011 16:04 GMT
#729
On August 05 2011 18:52 Neliz wrote:
Can you get promoted straight from bronze to gold? Very nice guide btw, I can now yell at my friends for not knowing how the system works!^^


You used to be able to, but now that doesn't really happen anymore.
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KenZo-
Profile Joined December 2010
Faroe Islands190 Posts
August 05 2011 16:28 GMT
#730
I got promoted from plat S2 to masters in S3 on a new account. So I think its possible to get promoted and jump over a league, at least in season changes.

Always a nice read Excalibur.
Thanks.
leBIGcrab
Profile Joined February 2011
France313 Posts
August 05 2011 16:35 GMT
#731
On August 05 2011 18:52 Neliz wrote:
Can you get promoted straight from bronze to gold? Very nice guide btw, I can now yell at my friends for not knowing how the system works!^^


When i got promoted to Gold on a friend account:

Bronze > Silver > 1 game > Gold. So not straight even if result was the same.
Fabut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany21 Posts
August 05 2011 16:50 GMT
#732
pdf version pls :x
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
August 05 2011 20:24 GMT
#733
On August 06 2011 01:50 Fabut wrote:
pdf version pls :x


Here you go!

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B6qj29txKgx5MjA2ZDI3YTYtNGE1OC00M2M1LWE0NDMtZDc2OWNkMDQ4ZTg2&hl=en_US
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
August 05 2011 21:56 GMT
#734
On August 06 2011 05:24 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 01:50 Fabut wrote:
pdf version pls :x


Here you go!

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B6qj29txKgx5MjA2ZDI3YTYtNGE1OC00M2M1LWE0NDMtZDc2OWNkMDQ4ZTg2&hl=en_US


Thanks! Added this to the OP.
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BiLaL.645
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States34 Posts
August 07 2011 04:04 GMT
#735
This is sick, thanks for all the work you do!
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
August 07 2011 07:41 GMT
#736
I used to be able to tell what the total bonus pool was through here: http://sc2ranks.com/api/bonus/pool?appKey=localhost

However, it appears that it's showing last season's total. Does anyone know where we can check for this value?
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
August 07 2011 08:40 GMT
#737
On August 07 2011 16:41 Azzur wrote:
I used to be able to tell what the total bonus pool was through here: http://sc2ranks.com/api/bonus/pool?appKey=localhost

However, it appears that it's showing last season's total. Does anyone know where we can check for this value?


That's only half bugged. The TW, US, LA, RU, and KR servers don't exist anymore (well they do but under different external names) so Shadowed never stopped them from accruing. If you look at the other servers: FEA, SEA, and EU, you'll see the correct values. The "half-bug" is that the NA+LA server, AM, is using the Season 2 values, so that should be fixed.

As for how to check, what I've been doing is just going to my division (and pretty much all divisions will have this) and looking for a player with 0 wins. Select him, go to the division he shares with you, and record his bonus pool from the top right. Right now the website is bugged for non-Master divisions and shows the Master accrual rate for all leagues, but you can get the accurate number in-game (or just multiply the website value by 0.58).
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
August 07 2011 11:46 GMT
#738
On August 07 2011 17:40 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 16:41 Azzur wrote:
I used to be able to tell what the total bonus pool was through here: http://sc2ranks.com/api/bonus/pool?appKey=localhost

However, it appears that it's showing last season's total. Does anyone know where we can check for this value?


That's only half bugged. The TW, US, LA, RU, and KR servers don't exist anymore (well they do but under different external names) so Shadowed never stopped them from accruing. If you look at the other servers: FEA, SEA, and EU, you'll see the correct values. The "half-bug" is that the NA+LA server, AM, is using the Season 2 values, so that should be fixed.

As for how to check, what I've been doing is just going to my division (and pretty much all divisions will have this) and looking for a player with 0 wins. Select him, go to the division he shares with you, and record his bonus pool from the top right. Right now the website is bugged for non-Master divisions and shows the Master accrual rate for all leagues, but you can get the accurate number in-game (or just multiply the website value by 0.58).

Cheers! Yeah, I never noticed the new servers (AM, FEA, etc), I always just looked at US. Thanks for that
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
August 07 2011 18:45 GMT
#739
Something to add.

When you don't play a season, your MMR disappears and you're forced to start over again... So even if you were master season 1, if you didn't play season 2 (which I didn't) and come back to season 3 and expect things to be the same; you're dead wrong!

WELCOME TO PLATINUM.

Blizzard REALLY wants to fuck with people who aren't active (bonus pool and now this).
Hello=)
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
August 07 2011 20:54 GMT
#740
On August 08 2011 03:45 ParasitJonte wrote:
Something to add.

When you don't play a season, your MMR disappears and you're forced to start over again... So even if you were master season 1, if you didn't play season 2 (which I didn't) and come back to season 3 and expect things to be the same; you're dead wrong!

WELCOME TO PLATINUM.

Blizzard REALLY wants to fuck with people who aren't active (bonus pool and now this).


Wow, that's very interesting. I was not aware that this occurred, but it makes sense.
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