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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12275 Posts
August 09 2011 15:10 GMT
#761
On August 09 2011 22:38 dartoo wrote:
Something I noticed last time, I played on SEA after a long time in s2, and even though I was placed into a league after the first match, the first 3 matches did not have any points next to them., and only from the 4th match did I start to get points again. So it seems like people who are inactive are put through an invisible placement match of sorts.


The first match gives you no points. If the next 3 matches were all losses then it makes sense because you start with 0 points which means you can't lose any.
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DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
August 09 2011 16:26 GMT
#762
On August 09 2011 07:38 RudePlague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 06:32 SDream wrote:
On August 09 2011 06:16 RudePlague wrote:
Something weird just happened, wondering if it's happened to others/if it's a bug or something.

After off-racing at the end of last season I dropped from platinum last season to silver this season. Two days ago I switched back to my main race and have gotten 2 promotions in 2 days, so am now platinum again. I've been playing a lot so have had 0 bonus pool (23 games today for example).

I just logged on after being offline for 2 hours and I now have a bonus pool of 69. Could it be that the ladder is trying to let me get some of the points back that I lost due to double promotions so fast?

Or have they changed back the different bonus pools between higher and lower leagues and this is the difference?


Is your PC clock alright?

Can you actually spend these extra points?

I just checked my ACC and I still have only 99 bonus points (should be 170+/- if I were master).


Clock is fine, turns out it's some weird visual bug, just won a game and only got +1 bonus pool for a +15 win, not using the rest of my 69 bonus pool that's appeared.



I had the same bug with shown bonus pool happen... showed 89 points, won a 13 point game and only got 10 bonus points.
Relogged and the bonus pool shows a correct 0 now.
JoshRT
Profile Joined August 2011
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-09 18:32:24
August 09 2011 18:32 GMT
#763
Is it weird that i keep getting matched up with EVEN favored players? It's been happening to me the past 25 or so games (won 80% of them, remaining 20% lost due to lag outs mostly)
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12275 Posts
August 09 2011 18:33 GMT
#764
On August 10 2011 03:32 JoshRT wrote:
Is it weird that i keep getting matched up with EVEN favored players? It's been happening to me the past 25 or so games (won 80% of them, remaining 20% lost due to lag outs mostly)


Not at all, that's mostly where everyone should eventually settle.
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JoshRT
Profile Joined August 2011
14 Posts
August 09 2011 19:59 GMT
#765
On August 10 2011 03:33 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 03:32 JoshRT wrote:
Is it weird that i keep getting matched up with EVEN favored players? It's been happening to me the past 25 or so games (won 80% of them, remaining 20% lost due to lag outs mostly)


Not at all, that's mostly where everyone should eventually settle.


but if im winning 80% of those matchups, should they match me up with slightly favored players and so it can determine i can hang with those players?
LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 02:21:48
August 11 2011 02:02 GMT
#766
My bonus pool jumped from 0 to 87 in like 3 hours. What's up with that?
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12275 Posts
August 11 2011 02:46 GMT
#767
On August 11 2011 11:02 LambtrOn wrote:
My bonus pool jumped from 0 to 87 in like 3 hours. What's up with that?


Did you get promoted to Master league?
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LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
August 11 2011 05:18 GMT
#768
On August 11 2011 11:46 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 11:02 LambtrOn wrote:
My bonus pool jumped from 0 to 87 in like 3 hours. What's up with that?


Did you get promoted to Master league?

No. I'm still diamond.
Mendelfist
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden356 Posts
August 11 2011 06:07 GMT
#769
On August 11 2011 14:18 LambtrOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 11:46 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On August 11 2011 11:02 LambtrOn wrote:
My bonus pool jumped from 0 to 87 in like 3 hours. What's up with that?


Did you get promoted to Master league?

No. I'm still diamond.

I've heard several people claiming that the bonus pool in the game suddenly was shown the same as on the web, ie wrong. Then it went back to normal again. They also claimed that their time and date settings were correct. I don't know what to make out of that.
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
August 11 2011 07:41 GMT
#770
On August 11 2011 15:07 Mendelfist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 14:18 LambtrOn wrote:
On August 11 2011 11:46 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On August 11 2011 11:02 LambtrOn wrote:
My bonus pool jumped from 0 to 87 in like 3 hours. What's up with that?


Did you get promoted to Master league?

No. I'm still diamond.

I've heard several people claiming that the bonus pool in the game suddenly was shown the same as on the web, ie wrong. Then it went back to normal again. They also claimed that their time and date settings were correct. I don't know what to make out of that.


Well, it's a random display bug. That will be my answer for whoever ask it next...
Mendelfist
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden356 Posts
August 11 2011 07:45 GMT
#771
On August 11 2011 16:41 SDream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 15:07 Mendelfist wrote:
I've heard several people claiming that the bonus pool in the game suddenly was shown the same as on the web, ie wrong. Then it went back to normal again. They also claimed that their time and date settings were correct. I don't know what to make out of that.

Well, it's a random display bug. That will be my answer for whoever ask it next...

Yes, but the problem is that the remaining bonus pool is calculated locally using the computers system clock. I don't see how that can suddenly change without patching the game client.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
August 11 2011 07:52 GMT
#772
On August 11 2011 16:45 Mendelfist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 16:41 SDream wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:07 Mendelfist wrote:
I've heard several people claiming that the bonus pool in the game suddenly was shown the same as on the web, ie wrong. Then it went back to normal again. They also claimed that their time and date settings were correct. I don't know what to make out of that.

Well, it's a random display bug. That will be my answer for whoever ask it next...

Yes, but the problem is that the remaining bonus pool is calculated locally using the computers system clock. I don't see how that can suddenly change without patching the game client.


It's probably being calculated at the same rate of masters bonus pool locally. Just a clientside bug after doing some stuff server side most likely.
LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
August 11 2011 15:34 GMT
#773
What a cruel bug -.-
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 20:34:16
August 12 2011 20:32 GMT
#774
It seems that the bronze ogsnada wasn't fake after all.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/pt/profile/1574314/1/oGsNaDa/

He was intentionally at bronze in season 2, so he could go 150 wins 0 losses into season 3 till master+.

I watched one replay and it really seems to be him, or at least a very skilled player (it's not a hack!!).

Nada exploited the ladder system to look even cooler than he already is!! XD

Edit: replay here: http://sc2shr.com/cK
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
August 12 2011 21:11 GMT
#775
On August 13 2011 05:32 SDream wrote:
It seems that the bronze ogsnada wasn't fake after all.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/pt/profile/1574314/1/oGsNaDa/

He was intentionally at bronze in season 2, so he could go 150 wins 0 losses into season 3 till master+.

I watched one replay and it really seems to be him, or at least a very skilled player (it's not a hack!!).

Nada exploited the ladder system to look even cooler than he already is!! XD

Edit: replay here: http://sc2shr.com/cK


I'm going to be sad when/if he gets banned.
Cambam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States360 Posts
August 13 2011 20:57 GMT
#776
I don't if this information is easily obtainable or not, but it'd be interesting to know how many of the top 200 masters players (points-wise) were promoted into GM league when it came out this season. 195/200 made it into GM league? 103/200? Can anyone find out? Thanks!
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12275 Posts
August 13 2011 21:47 GMT
#777
On August 14 2011 05:57 Cambam wrote:
I don't if this information is easily obtainable or not, but it'd be interesting to know how many of the top 200 masters players (points-wise) were promoted into GM league when it came out this season. 195/200 made it into GM league? 103/200? Can anyone find out? Thanks!


Well, it's not altogether relevant, but it's been about 5 days since the launch of GM league, which equates to about 65 or so bonus pool. Right now the #200 Master player on the AM server has 779 points. What you would want to know is how many of the GM players, based on maybe their SC2Ranks history, had more than 779 - 65 = 714 points before promotion.

Just at a quick glance, DeMuslim had like 1091, Optikzero had like 859, Reborn had 1150, Gatored had 910, and you just go from there.
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Stealth_Mel0n
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia43 Posts
August 14 2011 00:40 GMT
#778
Wow- there's some pretty serious maths there. Thanks for the help
DiDigital
Profile Joined February 2011
75 Posts
August 14 2011 05:14 GMT
#779
On August 08 2011 03:45 ParasitJonte wrote:
Something to add.

When you don't play a season, your MMR disappears and you're forced to start over again... So even if you were master season 1, if you didn't play season 2 (which I didn't) and come back to season 3 and expect things to be the same; you're dead wrong!

WELCOME TO PLATINUM.

Blizzard REALLY wants to fuck with people who aren't active (bonus pool and now this).


I hadn't played 1v1 since season 1 as well. Season 1 I was silver, playing a lot of gold, but I finished on a pretty bad losing streak against almost exclusively silver players. I started playing in season 3 and got placed into gold. I also went 4-1, playing drunk and occasionally off race with like 2 games vs the cpu in the previous month. Let's just say that my ladder experience was significantly different from season 1. haha
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12275 Posts
August 15 2011 17:04 GMT
#780
Okay so looks like we finally have something more concrete on what happens when you get promoted into and out of and finally back into Master/GM league.

If you have spent more bonus pool via Master/GM league than your new Bronze-Diamond league has accrued, then you will not receive any bonus pool until the point where your new league has accrued as much as you have already spent. That is, if you spent 90 bonus pool to empty it and then dropped down to Diamond, you wouldn't earn any bonus pool until Diamond's total accumulated pool reached 90 about 5 days later. If you returned to Master league, you would have an unspent bonus pool equal to the amount you had missed out on (so if it were 5 days, you would have 90*5/7=64 bonus pool remaining after your promotion).
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