EPTADD and Starcraft? - Page 4
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B-Wong
United States240 Posts
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tealc
109 Posts
On February 13 2011 15:49 XXXSmOke wrote: ADD can help your starcraft A typical syndrome of ADD is shifting thoughts constantly, which can help my brain process quick things fast in starcraft. However in school this is not so good o.0 No it can't. It's absolutely ridiculous how so many people claim this without actually knowing anything about ADD. For me it's the opposite, I get extremely easily "bored" while playing which causes my mind to start this internal monologue which constantly jumps from a subject to another, which then disrupts me from playing the game. It's hard to keep up with larva injects and overlod timings, while constantly thinking of these non-starcraft related things. ADD is not being able to think fast, it's about not being able to concentrate on thoughts over a period of time, which is one of the most important aspects of starcraft. | ||
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AimForTheBushes
United States1760 Posts
On February 13 2011 11:07 Dance. wrote: I've been diagnosed with ADHD and it has no bearing on my skill at starcraft. I think ADD and ADHD is bullshit, its a technical term for lazy and very lazy. Well, we can all come to 1 of 2 conclusions from this opinion. 1. You are right, and by definition you're confirming yourself to be a very lazy person, as well as spitting in the face of thousands of doctors and researchers (read: people much more qualified than you on the subject) who have studied this. Where is your thesis on this ground-breaking subject? I haven't read any published articles lately on how this is a complete fraud. Surely you have something to back that claim up? 2. You're wrong, and what you're saying is borderline hate-speak on people with this condition (I have a hard time believing you've been diagnosed with this if you have such a negative view about it). As someone with moderate-to-severe ADHD, I graduated at the top of my class, am getting my Pharm.D., and passed the qualification testing into Mensa, so by no means do I lack intelligence or work ethic (I held a full-time job while going to school). However, there are times when someone is talking to me, and the second that they finish talking I've already forgot what they've said because I couldn't focus. How exactly does that translate to me being "very lazy"? On topic: In my experience, ADHD can benefit the individual in certain circumstances requiring doing many actions at once, such as certain video games, and playing drums. (Compared to the normal struggle of sitting down for 3 hours to study or write a paper..or do an office job, etc.) | ||
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Dance.
United States389 Posts
On February 13 2011 16:22 AimForTheBushes wrote: Well, we can all come to 1 of 2 conclusions from this opinion. 1. You are right, and by definition you're confirming yourself to be a very lazy person, as well as spitting in the face of thousands of doctors and researchers (read: people much more qualified than you on the subject) who have studied this. Where is your thesis on this ground-breaking subject? I haven't read any published articles lately on how this is a complete fraud. Surely you have something to back that claim up? 2. You're wrong, and what you're saying is borderline hate-speak on people with this condition (I have a hard time believing you've been diagnosed with this if you have such a negative view about it). As someone with moderate-to-severe ADHD, I graduated at the top of my class, am getting my Pharm.D., and passed the qualification testing into Mensa, so by no means do I lack intelligence or work ethic (I held a full-time job while going to school). However, there are times when someone is talking to me, and the second that they finish talking I've already forgot what they've said because I couldn't focus. How exactly does that translate to me being "very lazy"? On topic: In my experience, ADHD can benefit the individual in certain circumstances requiring doing many actions at once, such as certain video games, and playing drums. (Compared to the normal struggle of sitting down for 3 hours to study or write a paper..or do an office job, etc.) Too bad graduating at the top of your class didn't teach you to read past the first post before you judge. | ||
SlapMySalami
United States1060 Posts
On February 13 2011 11:07 Dance. wrote: I've been diagnosed with ADHD and it has no bearing on my skill at starcraft. I think ADD and ADHD is bullshit, its a technical term for lazy and very lazy. ^I been diagnosed too it took 10 minutes and a talk with a psychiatrist it is a little BS. Anyone who is "ADD" or "ADHD" is just a procrastinator and doesn't feel like doing the chores of life. Starcraft 2 is not a chore and is easy to devote your attention to | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
Don't feel like it's a good idea to post it, pming the topic poster. | ||
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ALittleLuk
United States13 Posts
Drinking too much soda and not enough water can cause physical and mental problems but people see soda as relatively harmless. Not to mention coffee. A innocent short(8oz) brewed Starbucks coffee that has more caffeine then 2 redbulls. And yet I see people leaving Starbucks with even bigger drinks. All that sugar and caffeine wouldn't be a problem if you could spend that energy being physical in lieu of sitting in front of a computer or TV or classroom or desk. Instead it gives you a high then you crash, then you drink more for a high, then you crash. It creates a deficiency that isn't fixed by sleep or more caffeine as well as the fact that caffeine causes you to pee more, so the water you retain from the drink isn't as much from a comparable sized water. Same with bad food intake. You can't really eat your McDonalds or other high sugar/high fat foods without exercising and then wonder why you feel up or down, tired or wired, attentive or disinterested, or any multitude of weirdness that is translated into your SC2 play. I'm not saying its the fix for everyone's condition, but I bet a majority of people would feel more physically and mentally regulated and have less ADD/ADHD symptoms by getting a bit of exercise, having a better diet and getting better sleep. All the little things that you don't do to help yourself really does add up! A few symptoms of too much caffeine. * anxious * excitable * restless * dizzy * irritable * unable to concentrate * gastrointestinal (GI) aches * headaches that don't seem to go away * trouble with sleeping | ||
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Shadowcaster
23 Posts
My ADDHD has a huge impact on my game play. I am constantly forgetting to macro. When I take the meds it get even worse. OFF Meds its easier to switch between multiple areas of interest in the game from Macro to harass to battle and what not... ON Meds ill be so focused on the macro part ill look up at my mini-map and my army got raped. or ill engage in a battle and when its over ill have 2k minerals. All in all I would say that it is a huge handicap for SC2. | ||
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smurf_NYC
United States18 Posts
On a side note, its difficult for EVERYONE to pay attention to things that are tedious and boring. When I am at a morning meeting and my boss is going on about our weekly reports I just zone out. This isn't b/c I have ADD or ADHD, but b/c he along with the subject matter is boring as fuck, period. Now im not knocking on the small hand full of people that might actually have some disorder that causes their brain to function differently, but im knocking the chobos that want to use ADD and ADHD as a crutch excuse for everything under the sun. Its time to grow up and start taking responsibility for your actions instead of saying, Whoa is me, I must have ADHD. | ||
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Grummler
Germany743 Posts
On February 13 2011 11:13 ShaSKiRa wrote: sorry what is ADD and ADHD? check this out: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ADHD | ||
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OPSavioR
Sweden1465 Posts
On February 13 2011 11:23 LoLAdriankat wrote: IdrA has ADD (or at least he said he did) and he's one of the best Zergs. Maybe having ADD even helps. Source? can you find where he said that? | ||
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Shamrock_
South Africa276 Posts
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alepov
Netherlands1132 Posts
On February 14 2011 00:12 ALittleLuk wrote: ... A few symptoms of too much caffeine. * anxious * excitable * restless * dizzy * irritable * unable to concentrate * gastrointestinal (GI) aches * headaches that don't seem to go away * trouble with sleeping A few symptoms of too little caffeine. * falling asleep during lecture * falling asleep while watching a movie * falling asleep on the desk | ||
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Conrose
437 Posts
I'm not saying that ADD and ADHD or Depression are all BS Diagnoses, I understand that there are people who legitimately suffer from these "Ailments", but I think they are thrown around much to casually. That being said, I think nerve damage in my hands affects my gameplay more than my ADD, microing FGs, EMPs and FF's/Storms is rough for me. | ||
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Dakk
Sweden572 Posts
I am sitting at a high effective APM. | ||
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netisopl
Canada10 Posts
Sometimes it can be good. Sometimes it will be bad. On a day like today I have the entire day to play starcraft and I can't focus at all. It makes me play like garbage and forget so many things. Other days like focus will be like a laser beam, and it makes playing starcraft very easy. I've learned that I can't force it myself to play better on days like today. You just kinda got to roll with it, which sucks because I really wanted to ladder all day. | ||
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Thor-axe the Impaler
United States331 Posts
On February 13 2011 11:07 Dance. wrote: I've been diagnosed with ADHD and it has no bearing on my skill at starcraft. I think ADD and ADHD is bullshit, its a technical term for lazy and very lazy. This summarized my experience as well. | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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sinani206
United States1959 Posts
I constantly find myself thinking, "Everyone says that if you watch Day9 every night you will be at least gold, so why am I stuck in silver?" My conclusion is that it is ADHD, as I can think of a plan, understand it completely, but not execute at all, even though it feels like I am doing everything right. I mostly forget to constantly scout, or get too distracted by one part of the screen to concentrate on something else. These both sound ADHD-related, so maybe I do have a little bit of it. | ||
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skinnyrl
Netherlands125 Posts
You should just learn mechanics and if you learned the mechanics right. You will always know when to do stuff. People shouldnt always say i got this and that and then i cant do b. Thats bullshit. Look the way i see it. If you think you cant do something you wil never be able to do it. But if you instead try to find solutions then you will get better. You just need to have good motivation and strong will. Trust me  | ||
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