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On January 17 2011 11:10 .Theory wrote: Just stay random.. Seems like you enjoy all the races anyway, so I don't see why not.
There is a 66% chance you're not Protoss playing random. I see why not
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well, zerg is the hardest to play because its the easiest to lose with, protoss is very strong and neigh invincible if played correctly, but terran can do pretty much everything zerg and protoss can do, but better. its basically like this.
zerg protoss terran different different better different different better different different better
i mean, it sucks to say but its sad but true. but just play what you like, these are just some things to consider. maybe you like working hard for your wins, maybe you just want them to be fairly easy. or maybe you just like one race more just cause its cooler to you.
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On January 17 2011 11:24 Keldrath wrote: well, zerg is the hardest to play because its the easiest to lose with, protoss is very strong and neigh invincible if played correctly, but terran can do pretty much everything zerg and protoss can do, but better. its basically like this.
zerg protoss terran different different better different different better different different better
i mean, it sucks to say but its sad but true. but just play what you like, these are just some things to consider. maybe you like working hard for your wins, maybe you just want them to be fairly easy. or maybe you just like one race more just cause its cooler to you. this is horribly incorrect.
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On January 17 2011 11:24 Keldrath wrote: well, zerg is the hardest to play because its the easiest to lose with, protoss is very strong and neigh invincible if played correctly, but terran can do pretty much everything zerg and protoss can do, but better. its basically like this.
zerg protoss terran different different better different different better different different better
i mean, it sucks to say but its sad but true. but just play what you like, these are just some things to consider. maybe you like working hard for your wins, maybe you just want them to be fairly easy. or maybe you just like one race more just cause its cooler to you.
Shake my head. Shake until I puke.
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I played random in beta and for around 50 games in retail, after getting zerg around 4 times in a row and getting roflstomped i decided i should choose a race.
It was hard between zerg and terran, but i chose terran in the end. I find them to be the most fun, with huge eco/tech builds as well as fun micro rush builds.
I say just play random and choose one race that you dont want to play, and then pick between the two.
I still offrace zerg in team games and customs, even though i suck with them.
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On January 17 2011 11:29 Reptilia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 11:24 Keldrath wrote: well, zerg is the hardest to play because its the easiest to lose with, protoss is very strong and neigh invincible if played correctly, but terran can do pretty much everything zerg and protoss can do, but better. its basically like this.
zerg protoss terran different different better different different better different different better
i mean, it sucks to say but its sad but true. but just play what you like, these are just some things to consider. maybe you like working hard for your wins, maybe you just want them to be fairly easy. or maybe you just like one race more just cause its cooler to you. this is horribly incorrect.
i dont know ive seen some pretty crazy stuff, like a terran pull all of his scvs and marine rush with a huge army, almost win with it but fail, then with 9 workers vs the zergs 40 workers actually have a higher income than the zerg and have another huge attack ready and coming within a minute, stay on 9 workers for like 15 more minutes while still having a higher income the entire time and throwing awve after wave of huge marine balls at the zerg and not even start building more scv's till 25 minutes into the game. only to eventually give up and lose.
the fact that he could stay in that long after losing his entire army and workers without any problem while maintaining a higher income is pretty ridiculous. it just feels like terran can be careless and lose their whole army without being punished for it where the other races its pretty much GG.
but i dont want this to turn into a balance discussion, im just displaying the strength of terran.
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imo most people say how terran is the easiest to play, its not!!! from my experience the biggest weakness of Terran is the lack of mobility. majority of the terran units are slow-medium in speed so backstabbing is a huge problem (without planetary fortress the 2nd expo is immossible or very hard to take since ur enemy can hit from so many angles and ur army simply cant move fast enough to defend all corners). terran army is all about positioning, defending, and countering ur enemies blows. making buildings sucks cuz we need scv for the whole construction, scouting is a bit later and scouts cant regenerate no effectively gas block or proxy. all the races have their ups and down, no race is "easy" so STFU NOOBS get to master's league and then talk about balance and difficulty of each race
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Zerg is not as cool as Protoss
I think this sums it up. Day9 always said that you should pick the race you feel is the coolest, not the race you play best with, or has an advantage that you like.
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from ur OP i'd say protoss.
i also always feel like toss is the best race for war3 players
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i vote anything other than protoss because that would be one more person chancing a pvp. screw that.
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you said that zerg and terran aren't as cool as toss so i think you already had your mind made up before making this post. i think toss is a good pick anyway.
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Play random man, you'll get a much greater understanding of the game and the matchups and keeps the game very interesting. Not to mention you automatically look cooler if you play random
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On January 17 2011 11:52 Keldrath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 11:29 Reptilia wrote:On January 17 2011 11:24 Keldrath wrote: well, zerg is the hardest to play because its the easiest to lose with, protoss is very strong and neigh invincible if played correctly, but terran can do pretty much everything zerg and protoss can do, but better. its basically like this.
zerg protoss terran different different better different different better different different better
i mean, it sucks to say but its sad but true. but just play what you like, these are just some things to consider. maybe you like working hard for your wins, maybe you just want them to be fairly easy. or maybe you just like one race more just cause its cooler to you. this is horribly incorrect. i dont know ive seen some pretty crazy stuff, like a terran pull all of his scvs and marine rush with a huge army, almost win with it but fail, then with 9 workers vs the zergs 40 workers actually have a higher income than the zerg and have another huge attack ready and coming within a minute, stay on 9 workers for like 15 more minutes while still having a higher income the entire time and throwing awve after wave of huge marine balls at the zerg and not even start building more scv's till 25 minutes into the game. only to eventually give up and lose. the fact that he could stay in that long after losing his entire army and workers without any problem while maintaining a higher income is pretty ridiculous. it just feels like terran can be careless and lose their whole army without being punished for it where the other races its pretty much GG. but i dont want this to turn into a balance discussion, im just displaying the strength of terran.
Edit because I misread the post.
I find it hard to believe that a decent zerg with 40 drones couldn't get enough banelings up to crush a 9 SCV marine all-in...
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On January 17 2011 11:52 Keldrath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 11:29 Reptilia wrote:On January 17 2011 11:24 Keldrath wrote: well, zerg is the hardest to play because its the easiest to lose with, protoss is very strong and neigh invincible if played correctly, but terran can do pretty much everything zerg and protoss can do, but better. its basically like this.
zerg protoss terran different different better different different better different different better
i mean, it sucks to say but its sad but true. but just play what you like, these are just some things to consider. maybe you like working hard for your wins, maybe you just want them to be fairly easy. or maybe you just like one race more just cause its cooler to you. this is horribly incorrect. i dont know ive seen some pretty crazy stuff, like a terran pull all of his scvs and marine rush with a huge army, almost win with it but fail, then with 9 workers vs the zergs 40 workers actually have a higher income than the zerg and have another huge attack ready and coming within a minute, stay on 9 workers for like 15 more minutes while still having a higher income the entire time and throwing awve after wave of huge marine balls at the zerg and not even start building more scv's till 25 minutes into the game. only to eventually give up and lose. the fact that he could stay in that long after losing his entire army and workers without any problem while maintaining a higher income is pretty ridiculous. it just feels like terran can be careless and lose their whole army without being punished for it where the other races its pretty much GG. but i dont want this to turn into a balance discussion, im just displaying the strength of terran.
That is called saturation. 40 drones on 8 patches versus 9 SCV's on 8 patches is about 2x more efficient for the Zerg. But if he spreads his 40 drones out to 24 patches (3 base), he goes up 6-fold over the T in terms of income. Clearly whatever Z you were watching is stupid.
In terms of MULEs, you can call them down all you want, but if you aren't scanning as T, and just trying to use your racial ability to get +300 minerals every 50 energy, you will most likely lose to an unscouted Z going for a Muta harass. Hence the nature of T needing to balance energy, exactly like Z balances Injects v Creep Tumors. Yaaaay strategy! Instead of mindless play! (U c wat I did thar?)
To OP: Don't consider this person's statement. It's stupid. Go with what feels comfortable to you, and not what the current Patch 1."X" consensus states. That consensus will be gone come Patch 1."X+1", mark my word.
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play both zerg and protoss?
I do, although tbf I play each one for a while exclusively then switch instead of going back and forth frequently. Think Im gonna stick with P though because Id rather PvP than ZvZ (which is still better than TvT IMO).
oh, and laser beams.
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On January 17 2011 13:21 red_b wrote:
oh, and laser beams.
Pewpewpewpewpew.
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On January 17 2011 13:15 gulati wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 11:52 Keldrath wrote:On January 17 2011 11:29 Reptilia wrote:On January 17 2011 11:24 Keldrath wrote: well, zerg is the hardest to play because its the easiest to lose with, protoss is very strong and neigh invincible if played correctly, but terran can do pretty much everything zerg and protoss can do, but better. its basically like this.
zerg protoss terran different different better different different better different different better
i mean, it sucks to say but its sad but true. but just play what you like, these are just some things to consider. maybe you like working hard for your wins, maybe you just want them to be fairly easy. or maybe you just like one race more just cause its cooler to you. this is horribly incorrect. i dont know ive seen some pretty crazy stuff, like a terran pull all of his scvs and marine rush with a huge army, almost win with it but fail, then with 9 workers vs the zergs 40 workers actually have a higher income than the zerg and have another huge attack ready and coming within a minute, stay on 9 workers for like 15 more minutes while still having a higher income the entire time and throwing awve after wave of huge marine balls at the zerg and not even start building more scv's till 25 minutes into the game. only to eventually give up and lose. the fact that he could stay in that long after losing his entire army and workers without any problem while maintaining a higher income is pretty ridiculous. it just feels like terran can be careless and lose their whole army without being punished for it where the other races its pretty much GG. but i dont want this to turn into a balance discussion, im just displaying the strength of terran. That is called saturation. 40 drones on 8 patches versus 9 SCV's on 8 patches is about 2x more efficient for the Zerg. But if he spreads his 40 drones out to 24 patches (3 base), he goes up 6-fold over the T in terms of income. Clearly whatever Z you were watching is stupid. In terms of MULEs, you can call them down all you want, but if you aren't scanning as T, and just trying to use your racial ability to get +300 minerals every 50 energy, you will most likely lose to an unscouted Z going for a Muta harass. Hence the nature of T needing to balance energy, exactly like Z balances Injects v Creep Tumors. Yaaaay strategy! Instead of mindless play! (U c wat I did thar?) To OP: Don't consider this person's statement. It's stupid. Go with what feels comfortable to you, and not what the current Patch 1."X" consensus states. That consensus will be gone come Patch 1."X+1", mark my word.
no the zerg stayed on 2 bases. terran was also on 2.
you can see the game im referencing cause it was in the team liquid something or other, that teamspeak open that was like yesterday? it was destiny vs some terran on shakuras, i forget the terrans name but it was destiny's like 3rd or 4th match.
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Starting with random is always good. In my opinion, all beginners should play at least 15 games as random before deciding on a race.
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Well, I play as Terran and I currently hate them. Lol. Im just too stubborn, and dont have enough time to learn a dif race to switch. But if I could, id easily pick Protoss.
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On January 17 2011 13:23 Keldrath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 13:15 gulati wrote:On January 17 2011 11:52 Keldrath wrote:On January 17 2011 11:29 Reptilia wrote:On January 17 2011 11:24 Keldrath wrote: well, zerg is the hardest to play because its the easiest to lose with, protoss is very strong and neigh invincible if played correctly, but terran can do pretty much everything zerg and protoss can do, but better. its basically like this.
zerg protoss terran different different better different different better different different better
i mean, it sucks to say but its sad but true. but just play what you like, these are just some things to consider. maybe you like working hard for your wins, maybe you just want them to be fairly easy. or maybe you just like one race more just cause its cooler to you. this is horribly incorrect. i dont know ive seen some pretty crazy stuff, like a terran pull all of his scvs and marine rush with a huge army, almost win with it but fail, then with 9 workers vs the zergs 40 workers actually have a higher income than the zerg and have another huge attack ready and coming within a minute, stay on 9 workers for like 15 more minutes while still having a higher income the entire time and throwing awve after wave of huge marine balls at the zerg and not even start building more scv's till 25 minutes into the game. only to eventually give up and lose. the fact that he could stay in that long after losing his entire army and workers without any problem while maintaining a higher income is pretty ridiculous. it just feels like terran can be careless and lose their whole army without being punished for it where the other races its pretty much GG. but i dont want this to turn into a balance discussion, im just displaying the strength of terran. That is called saturation. 40 drones on 8 patches versus 9 SCV's on 8 patches is about 2x more efficient for the Zerg. But if he spreads his 40 drones out to 24 patches (3 base), he goes up 6-fold over the T in terms of income. Clearly whatever Z you were watching is stupid. In terms of MULEs, you can call them down all you want, but if you aren't scanning as T, and just trying to use your racial ability to get +300 minerals every 50 energy, you will most likely lose to an unscouted Z going for a Muta harass. Hence the nature of T needing to balance energy, exactly like Z balances Injects v Creep Tumors. Yaaaay strategy! Instead of mindless play! (U c wat I did thar?) To OP: Don't consider this person's statement. It's stupid. Go with what feels comfortable to you, and not what the current Patch 1."X" consensus states. That consensus will be gone come Patch 1."X+1", mark my word. no the zerg stayed on 2 bases. terran was also on 2. you can see the game im referencing cause it was in the team liquid something or other, that teamspeak open that was like yesterday? it was destiny vs some terran on shakuras, i forget the terrans name but it was destiny's like 3rd or 4th match.
Direct link us. I would like to see a T with two bases and 9 SCVs being in any tournament. Unless his name is BitByBit.Prime
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