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Eeevil
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands359 Posts
January 13 2011 14:51 GMT
#21
So random players who then specialize pick zerg to play at about platinum level.

At lower levels Zerg has the higher winrate wich is probably the motivator for random players to switch to zerg.

I wonder if those random to zerg switchers help bring down the zerg winrate above platinum.
/speculation
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
January 13 2011 15:03 GMT
#22
Really nice graphs. Thanks for making these
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zingmars
Profile Joined April 2010
Latvia189 Posts
January 13 2011 15:03 GMT
#23
On January 13 2011 23:40 hewtrain wrote:
can i ask why the hell the races swap and change colors from one graph to the other? makes it confusing..

What are you talking about? the colors for all races are the same for both graphs. The reason why they 'swap places' is because they're supposed to
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Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
January 13 2011 15:12 GMT
#24
On January 14 2011 00:03 zingmars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 23:40 hewtrain wrote:
can i ask why the hell the races swap and change colors from one graph to the other? makes it confusing..

What are you talking about? the colors for all races are the same for both graphs. The reason why they 'swap places' is because they're supposed to


Prior to the edit in the OP, the colors for each race didn't match between graphs
Kaz7i7
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom9 Posts
January 13 2011 15:15 GMT
#25
Fascinating data. Would definitely be nice to see a progression of similar graphs from data from previous patches, perhaps in a slightly different color scheme
talontario
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 15:39:23
January 13 2011 15:38 GMT
#26
On January 13 2011 23:51 Eeevil wrote:
So random players who then specialize pick zerg to play at about platinum level.

At lower levels Zerg has the higher winrate wich is probably the motivator for random players to switch to zerg.

I wonder if those random to zerg switchers help bring down the zerg winrate above platinum.
/speculation


This isn't a time-based plot, you're assuming that people move steadily along these lines, but most likely it's harder for random to get as high, so they bulk up with only a few of them breaking into masters. At the same note few beginners want to play a race such as zerg as it's so different (as the OP noted) and we only see them coming into play at higher levels.
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
January 13 2011 15:47 GMT
#27
Winky uber smilies are clearly sarcasm
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Fivt
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands31 Posts
January 13 2011 15:50 GMT
#28
So that's why I play so much PvP

Interesting to see that Terrans winrate is quite a bit higher compared to P and Z. Perhaps everything in Master League hasn't quite balanced out?
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 16:13:34
January 13 2011 16:11 GMT
#29
Well, I think it's pretty clear that Terran is going to be much more favored for the lower leagues because of the campaign, not to mention that zerg's mechanics are significantly harder for newer players. Its nice to see that they are all pretty close together in the top leagues. It seems like zerg is the one taking percentages from random in the higher leagues.

And yet, zerg's winrate is the one that levels off the most. That's a little odd.
SCdinner
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada516 Posts
January 13 2011 16:19 GMT
#30
On January 13 2011 23:34 blackbrrd wrote:
Interesting that the win percentage for all the races and random is over 50%.

Its because they do not include bronze players, who probibly even out the scale.
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 13 2011 16:26 GMT
#31
Is it possible to conclude that Protoss players may have an easier time executing a strategy vs Terran and Zerg players who have to do a lot more "on your feet" execution?

I'm only curious because it feels that way when I play vs. Toss players on a regular basis and even when I play team games it's simple to just execute warp gate rushes. Create 3 units to support your team mates, which is usually the best option for toss in team games.
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REM.ca
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada354 Posts
January 13 2011 16:37 GMT
#32
Woot above average win%! Huzzah!
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Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
January 13 2011 16:41 GMT
#33
Solid 10% random. Nice to see that.
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
January 13 2011 16:47 GMT
#34
On January 13 2011 23:50 Jameser wrote:
interesting how zerg and terran start so far apart in the new players and then converge higher up


That's probably because of WoL being Terran. People play the campaign and know how to play Terran so they go on the ladder as Terran. Silver+ players aren't affected by this because they're more likely to have more games played and/or are more willing to learn a new race.
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OverZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States271 Posts
January 13 2011 16:53 GMT
#35
Wow. Nicely done. I find it interesting how theres a bit of a jump in the number of random players in platinum...
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Twitches
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada365 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 16:56:06
January 13 2011 16:55 GMT
#36
I think its funny how the demographic for the Terran starts pretty high and then gets even around Zerg in the Master League... Same with how Zerg starts off low... haha.
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Cenja
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden498 Posts
January 13 2011 17:00 GMT
#37
I think zerg do better in lower leagues because players with lower skill allow zergs to get many expansions and tech to brood lords.
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SCdinner
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada516 Posts
January 13 2011 17:02 GMT
#38
On January 14 2011 01:47 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 23:50 Jameser wrote:
interesting how zerg and terran start so far apart in the new players and then converge higher up


That's probably because of WoL being Terran. People play the campaign and know how to play Terran so they go on the ladder as Terran. Silver+ players aren't affected by this because they're more likely to have more games played and/or are more willing to learn a new race.

Good point. It seems like when the first starcraft came out lots of people liked to be protoss because at the end of the campaign they are so bad ass and after brood war came out zerg was the race to be for awhile. That or maybe the 4 pool for only 150 minerals...
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reapsen
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany559 Posts
January 13 2011 17:03 GMT
#39
Nice graphs, now i am wondering what the absolute numbers of players with respective races are.

I mean how many players play which race in which league.
SCdinner
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada516 Posts
January 13 2011 17:05 GMT
#40
On January 14 2011 02:03 reapsen wrote:
Nice graphs, now i am wondering what the absolute numbers of players with respective races are.

I mean how many players play which race in which league.

You can see that easily at sc2ranks.com except you have to deal with ugly boxy bar diagrams instead of these graceful line diagrams.
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