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On December 27 2010 01:29 MegaBUD wrote:
Why not just installing XP/7 ?
I'll never understand linux user... Unix is a server OS and never been made for home user...
If you really want something that use the backbone of unix... install macOS...
People don't want to buy an OS and/or they prefer linux over XP/7....?
And lol@"install MacOS instead of Linux"
Way to lose all credibility dude.
I dual-boot Linux/Windows7. I use Linux for my psuedo-programming practice and internet browsing and all that, and have all my games on Win 7 with a separate External Hard Drive. It's just preference for me.
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On December 27 2010 01:35 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 01:29 MegaBUD wrote:
Why not just installing XP/7 ?
I'll never understand linux user... Unix is a server OS and never been made for home user...
If you really want something that use the backbone of unix... install macOS... People don't want to buy an OS and/or they prefer linux over XP/7....? And lol@"install MacOS instead of Linux" Way to lose all credibility dude. I dual-boot Linux/Windows7. I use Linux for my psuedo-programming practice and internet browsing and all that, and have all my games on Win 7 with a separate External Hard Drive. It's just preference for me.
Now that's what should be done. Linux isn't supposed to run games. Linux is supposed for programming(-practice) and compiling and stuff. Windows was made for the dead end user and is supposed to be used for gaming.
There is no point in installing Linux if what you will do is install Wine. Wine is most likely the most stupid program of the actualities, where every non-gaming program can be used on Linux easily, and every program that can't be used on Linux, has a counterpart that is probably much more efficient.
People, if what you want to do is gaming, separate your HD into halves and install both OS. If you are a proud programmer/hacker(which is the correct term), you should be able to install windows without even paying it - if you, of course, acknowledge that it is illegal and you are probably going to jail if anyone finds out(who will? lol).
And "prefer linux over xp/7" is the most stupid argument possible. So, I prefer Coke over Heinekein, this means I'll mix alcohol into Coke if I want to get drunk by it? That's fucking ridiculous, in any way. Kids do that, but I don't think anyone here is a kid.
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I know it's a stupid argument, I'm just simply stating the fact that's that is what some people feel. I got a trial version of Win7 and never upgraded to the real version. It says every time I reboot that I need to "upgrade to paid version now" but I can just X out of it and it works just fine. So I got it for free basically.
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On December 27 2010 01:52 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 01:35 Fruscainte wrote:On December 27 2010 01:29 MegaBUD wrote:
Why not just installing XP/7 ?
I'll never understand linux user... Unix is a server OS and never been made for home user...
If you really want something that use the backbone of unix... install macOS... People don't want to buy an OS and/or they prefer linux over XP/7....? And lol@"install MacOS instead of Linux" Way to lose all credibility dude. I dual-boot Linux/Windows7. I use Linux for my psuedo-programming practice and internet browsing and all that, and have all my games on Win 7 with a separate External Hard Drive. It's just preference for me. Now that's what should be done. Linux isn't supposed to run games. Linux is supposed for programming(-practice) and compiling and stuff. Windows was made for the dead end user and is supposed to be used for gaming. There is no point in installing Linux if what you will do is install Wine. Wine is most likely the most stupid program of the actualities, where every non-gaming program can be used on Linux easily, and every program that can't be used on Linux, has a counterpart that is probably much more efficient. People, if what you want to do is gaming, separate your HD into halves and install both OS. If you are a proud programmer/hacker(which is the correct term), you should be able to install windows without even paying it - if you, of course, acknowledge that it is illegal and you are probably going to jail if anyone finds out(who will? lol). And "prefer linux over xp/7" is the most stupid argument possible. So, I prefer Coke over Heinekein, this means I'll mix alcohol into Coke if I want to get drunk by it? That's fucking ridiculous, in any way. Kids do that, but I don't think anyone here is a kid.
+1 Respect
I have XP and Ubuntu in dual boot. But since SC2 works almost perfect I dont need to use XP. But for example: If I want to play Dead Space I do open XP since Wine have some impossible bugs.
I don't think Wine is stupid though. Its a very usefull program when you dont want to open your virtual pc or your pc boot. It saves up time if you are lazy. And if you have wine, linux, a virtual pc and dual boot you are most likely lazy.
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On December 27 2010 01:29 MegaBUD wrote:
Why not just installing XP/7 ?
I'll never understand linux user... Unix is a server OS and never been made for home user...
If you really want something that use the backbone of unix... install macOS...
The answer is quite simple.
windows7 and macOS both cost money
linux-based Operating Systems don't and never will.
Nowadays, Ubuntu starts to look more and more like a noob-friendly operating system.
So yeah, you can have a OS that is good, free and which can run games.
You can also try not to hate everybody who doesn't use the OS you use.
If you don't like the tutorial in this thread, ignore it and don't reply to it.
There are alot of people out there who want to stay legit and don't afford an expensive OS or simply don't want to waste money on it.
Anyways, if you don't understand the linux user don't even bother to.
People with this exclusivist kind of thinking are the ones who started all the world's greatest atrocities.
Enslave the blacks, kill the jews and take a dump on linux user's head.
I know i am going to receive a warning for my above line, but read the whole thing and analyse the context.
and have a fucking happy new year, Adolf!
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Cool tutorial for those not familiar with linux.
I'm a huge fan of ubuntu and have used wine to play many other games. Most notably, guild wars. However, I went with an AMD card this time around. To make matters worse, I actually like Windows 7, so I haven't been motivated to jump full time to linux again as I did about 2 years ago. Still, always great to see advancements are being made. Now we just need some better drivers and for my entire steam library to work natively...
EDIT: LOL @ MegaBud's stupidity. Ubuntu is equally as user friendly if you don't plan on gaming. That's really the only thing that linux in general struggles with. For the most part, you don't even have to install drivers, it does it for you. Open office, Firefox, thunderbird, and VLC handle basically all of your core needs. Don't bash something just because you know nothing of it. Linux, and Ubuntu/Kubuntu in particular, has become a perfectly viable alternative to windows.
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I played for a bit and been having problems when i quit the game, no problems ingame.
The game tries to report to blizzard that it got an error, but I guess it's because of the emulation.
So far I didn't have time to play it alot (due to holidays and everything), but as soon as I make some time and test things out a bit, I will come back with potential problems and so.
Also, want to make request to mods again:
change title
from Tutorial : play SC2 on Ubuntu 10.10 x64
to Tutorial : play SC2 on Ubuntu 10.10 x64 using WINE
There are alot of emulation programs, so I may post future tutorials, or another might post and confusions would be avoided this way.
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Concerning the ATI driver warning - is that poor performance for both the open and closed drivers?
Open is xf86-video-ati
Closed is fglrx (Catalyst)
@The person talking about the poor performance
A Radeon HD3450 is very weak and I am surprised it runs SC2 under Windows. Of course Wine "emulation" is going to make it slower under Ubuntu, but if you at least had the recommended-specs SC2 GPU or equivalent (HD3870, more than 8x as fast as yours) it might work better?
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On January 04 2011 23:50 Soleron wrote:
Concerning the ATI driver warning - is that poor performance for both the open and closed drivers?
Open is xf86-video-ati
Closed is fglrx (Catalyst)
@The person talking about the poor performance
A Radeon HD3450 is very weak and I am surprised it runs SC2 under Windows. Of course Wine "emulation" is going to make it slower under Ubuntu, but if you at least had the recommended-specs SC2 GPU or equivalent (HD3870, more than 8x as fast as yours) it might work better?
i don't know exactly.
I just seen this on the internet, i don't know for myself since i got nVidia on my PC.
I odn't even know if it's a driver issue or if it's the way WINE behaves.
Please, do some research on your own and google this.
I posted the method and included the warning in the OP.
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Would this work for 32bit versions of Ubuntu 10.10?
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I installed SC2 on FreeBSD. The installation process is more complicated than on Linux 
it works great.
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I have to carefully resize the window so that the edge scrolling works as intended (might be because I use the xmonad window manager), but other than that it works like a treat. :D
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On January 05 2011 02:40 bruteMax wrote:
Would this work for 32bit versions of Ubuntu 10.10?
Yes it does. I use the 32 bits version an works just fine.
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Great guide! this will certainly be useful for newer linux users and people who may just be interested in messing with wine on linux.
now let my rant begin.
I have been using linux and other unix based OS' for 14+ years now. I run Arch exclusively now but have tried every major distro and many lesser known as well as all the flavors of BSD. That being said it pains me greatly to see 'elite' unix users stomp about shitting on people for not using the os in what they perceive to be the correct way. These people have forgotten what the whole point of Linux is.
Linux is about doing whatever the fuck you want to do with it.
If all you wanna do is code in a screen session on a framebuffer without X awesome! do it! Just wanna throw it in a closet and use it as a server, router, proxie, or vpn? Awesome do it! And yes if you wanna just play games on it awesome DO IT!
Freedom and Flexibility! You have the ability to make linux do whatever you wanna do naysayers be damned.
I mean no offense to anyone here but people need to chill the fuck with the elite internet fascism. Honestly if you have a problem with what someone is doing with their *nix keep it to yourself. No one cares and nothing you say will change what I do on MY *nix because you have no right to dictate to me ( or anyone) how i use it.
Might i suggest for those who can't stand the thought of people using your beloved coding os to game on, that you start using GNU Hurd. I promise you'll be far far away from the dirty 3d rendering and evil multimedia parasites that are *ruining* linux.
Have a nice day!
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By the way, has anyone figured out how to fix the mouse? I.e. a setting like Windows' "enhance mouse precision"? I want to disable mouse acceleration, but then it's soooo sloooow.
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On December 23 2010 17:47 MindRush wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2010 17:36 LeCastor wrote:
Thank you so much for this work. I am planing to assemble a new PC, and i was worried a lot about the windows licence. This solves the problem.
The previous tutorials i have already read use 'playonlinux', you think wine is more straightforward ?
Hope this won't be broken by any future patchs.
My advice is install Ubuntu and restrain yourself from uninstalling it. When you encounter a problem go online and seek a solution. In time, you will love Ubuntu, and it will always be free of charge. Also better Direct3D emulations will become available, and windows executables will run faster, due to better resource management of linux. Future patches can't break this. It's windows emulation, not linux. I believe Blizzard should make a linux version of SC2 for the linux users, unless they are paid by Microsoft and/or Apple not to do so. Can't explain why only Windows and MacOS. Show nested quote +On December 23 2010 17:38 JWill wrote:This is a great guide! I wasn't aware wine would run SC2 without any problems, so I've just been playing on my windows install. Have you experienced any bugs, crashes, or performance issues under wine? Great contribution to the community, MindRush Wine is the only thing I tried, so nothing to compare it with I'm affraid. The only thing is that performance might lack due to the bad emulation of Direct3D. Other than this, if you make the changes to winecfg as I posted, you should have no problem.
Don't be silly, Why on earth would Blizzard make a Linux version of SC2? Do you know how much work would be involved in supporting another platform? There is little to no demand for Linux games, and simply no market for it as 99.99% of gamers use Windows or Mac. Don't get me wrong, I love Linux as much as the next geek as I was an avid Ubuntu user in college, but it is not ideal for people who just want the bloody thing to work.
Also, you have to keep in mind that Linux is an open source platform, and few proprietary applications have ever had success on it, as its user base is obsessed with pirating and only using free or open source software. Not to mention the fact that there are a billion different versions of linux, and supporting them all is simply not feasible.
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On December 23 2010 17:13 MindRush wrote:
Expaination:
This is a tutorial for people who have Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit installed on their systems.
You don't need to pay about $300 on an OS to play SC2 legally. You can play SC2 on Ubuntu10.10, which is free.
Not an attempt to derail, but I spent like 120 for my OS. What OS are you talking about? Just always hearing linux-heads say that windows costs 300 dollars. Kinda funny.
Anyways, good topic and happy to see that even more people now have a way of playing SC2!
EDIT: Yeah Windows 7 Ultimate (which is so incredibly overkill and hardly anyone would use the features from that in comparison to Home or Pro) is 260 bucks. So not even 300, and a version that no one really buys unless they are in a work space where they require it.
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Nice tutorial, wtg supporting open source community. Did you see a large decrease in performance running sc2 under wine?
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On December 27 2010 01:29 MegaBUD wrote:
Why not just installing XP/7 ?
I'll never understand linux user... Unix is a server OS and never been made for home user...
If you really want something that use the backbone of unix... install macOS...
I'm a programmer and use windows to program in c/java/ruby/perl/php etc. There is nothing wrong with programming in the windows operating system. Plus the interface is a lot nicer. I've used all of the different operating systems and for 99.999% of what anyone does, windows does just as well as everything else. With windows server 2008, windows is also now a viable server solution, but I still like linux for my server just a little more because i am used to the functionality.
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