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Tutorial : play SC2 on Ubuntu 10.10 x64

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MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 14:49:55
December 23 2010 08:13 GMT
#1
Expaination:

This is a tutorial for people who have Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit installed on their systems.
You don't need to pay about $300 on an OS to play SC2 legally. You can play SC2 on Ubuntu10.10, which is free.

This worked for me and I do not guarantee it will work for everyone. Also, if you did something wrong, or part of the code is harmful to your PC I am not responsable. You can choose not to try this out.

This is dumbed down, since I searched for a solution all over the internet and took me quite a while to get the proper code, then find out I had to install some program prior to that etc.....

In this tutorial, the system might ask you to input the password for the superuser to make some important modifications. Just type it and don't worry

Before you install this, however checkout the following: (thanks Shindigs for this)
The performance of some ATI cards are abysmal in running SC2 (its unplayable even on low). I've read that this is due to the poor drivers provided by ATI.

SC2 runs optimally on nVidia cards on Ubuntu.



EDIT*Also i would have a common-sense request for the average TL.net user.
+ Show Spoiler +
If you:
don't have Linux installed on your system
don't want it
don't understand it
don't ever plan to ever use it
or simply don't like it
PLEASE don't bash this thread.
Simply ignore it.
See what this thread is about and just quit if you can't contribute to it with other than insults to linux users.



Making it work:

1st step
+ Show Spoiler +
You need to install Wine. Wine is an Open Source Software for running Windows applications on other operating systems.
Go to System -> Administration -> Update Manager
Click the Settings... button, which takes you to Software Sources window.
Go to Other Software tab.
Click the Add... button and insert the following line there:
http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu

This tells Ubuntu to search for updates for Wine, which is now a trusted software.

Now, from Update Manager window just check for updates and install everything.
The program will most likely ask you to reboot, so do it.

After reboot, go to Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center, search for "Wine" and also install Wine from there. Another reboot now is recommended.

2nd step:
+ Show Spoiler +
Having latest Wine installed, the problem is not solved. Wine is not an application which runs all windows executables. Wine needs to know how. This piece of information is on the internet and for every game, wine needs instructions on how to run install it.

Don't worry if you don't understand yet.
Just open a terminal. Applications -> Accesories -> Terminal (I used a shortcut). Just copy-paste bolded commands into terminal, one command at a time.

1st we make sure you have what it takes for compile.

sudo apt-get install git build-essential

then we copy WINE source code using git

git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git ~/wine-git && cd ~/wine-git

then we make sure to obtain the SC2 patch

wget -q -O – http://phyrex1an.net/sc2-login.diff | patch -p1

we make sure we have all dependencies for WINE 1.2

sudo apt-get build-dep wine

and we compile with

tools/make_requests && ./configure && make depend && make

When compilation is finished (it took me 15 minutes) we install the new WINE

sudo make install

and restart wineserver:

wineserver -k


3rd step:
+ Show Spoiler +
For the game to launch without any issues we launch winecfg make some modification which will improve loading time. In Applications tab, we change OS to “Windows 7′ and in Libraries tab add a new override for mmdevapi and set it to “Disabled” (last one is for some sound problems).

EDIT*: I'm sure you figured it out, but I just have to point out the obvious.
To launch winecfg go Applications -> Wine -> Configure Wine

4th step:
+ Show Spoiler +
Install and enjoy.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
LeCastor
Profile Joined July 2010
France234 Posts
December 23 2010 08:36 GMT
#2
Thank you so much for this work. I am planing to assemble a new PC, and i was worried a lot about the windows licence. This solves the problem.

The previous tutorials i have already read use 'playonlinux', you think wine is more straightforward ?

Hope this won't be broken by any future patchs.

JWill
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada52 Posts
December 23 2010 08:38 GMT
#3
This is a great guide! I wasn't aware wine would run SC2 without any problems, so I've just been playing on my windows install.

Have you experienced any bugs, crashes, or performance issues under wine?

Great contribution to the community, MindRush
Diamond Zerg
Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
December 23 2010 08:40 GMT
#4
yeah, i heard on Archlinux it's also running without any problems. Guess I'll test in my upcoming holidays
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-23 09:19:31
December 23 2010 08:47 GMT
#5
On December 23 2010 17:36 LeCastor wrote:
Thank you so much for this work. I am planing to assemble a new PC, and i was worried a lot about the windows licence. This solves the problem.

The previous tutorials i have already read use 'playonlinux', you think wine is more straightforward ?

Hope this won't be broken by any future patchs.



My advice is install Ubuntu and restrain yourself from uninstalling it. When you encounter a problem go online and seek a solution. In time, you will love Ubuntu, and it will always be free of charge. Also better Direct3D emulations will become available, and windows executables will run faster, due to better resource management of linux.

Future patches can't break this. It's windows emulation, not linux. I believe Blizzard should make a linux version of SC2 for the linux users, unless they are paid by Microsoft and/or Apple not to do so. Can't explain why only Windows and MacOS.

On December 23 2010 17:38 JWill wrote:
This is a great guide! I wasn't aware wine would run SC2 without any problems, so I've just been playing on my windows install.

Have you experienced any bugs, crashes, or performance issues under wine?

Great contribution to the community, MindRush



Wine is the only thing I tried, so nothing to compare it with I'm affraid.
The only thing is that performance might lack due to the bad emulation of Direct3D.
Other than this, if you make the changes to winecfg as I posted, you should have no problem.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
CASLsoju
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada253 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-23 09:08:55
December 23 2010 09:08 GMT
#6
I love OP, just saying. Worked fine for me ^_^
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 08:18:01
December 24 2010 08:17 GMT
#7
could a mod please rename my thread from Tutorial : play SC2 on Ubuntu 10.10 x64 to
Tutorial : play SC2 on Ubuntu 10.10 x64 using Wine?

there are other programs for linux which emulate the running of windows executables, Wine isn't the only one, and future tutorials may appear, maybe also by me.

Thanks a lot, guys !
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
December 24 2010 08:23 GMT
#8
Nice guide but i just like to point out that no one actually spends $300 on windows if u catch my drift
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
December 24 2010 08:29 GMT
#9
windoze costs money?
sick linux work thanks a ton friend!
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
December 24 2010 08:29 GMT
#10
wow, thanks will check this out when i'm at home
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 08:41:34
December 24 2010 08:41 GMT
#11
Wow great work on putting this up on Team Liquid! I googled around to try to get SC2 to work so its great to have this stuff centralized here.

Anyway, could you put this warning into your OP

The performance of some ATI cards are abysmal in running SC2 (its unplayable even on low). I've read that this is due to the poor drivers provided by ATI.

SC2 runs optimally on nVidia cards on Ubuntu.


If any of that is wrong, feel free to call me an idiot - but I have to boot into windows to run sc2 on my ATI card on my laptop (ATI Radeon HD 3450 256 mb) since I can't run it for beans on ubuntu

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Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 08:52:14
December 24 2010 08:51 GMT
#12
What FPS are you getting Sc2 to run at and at what settings? What's your system config, etc..?

I tried running Sc2 on my Ubuntu install and saw a pretty drastic performance decrease...

Edit: Thanks for the guide btw, very helpful for new users
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
December 24 2010 09:09 GMT
#13
I already have it able to run on my Arch Linux 64 bit version :p

but the comp sucks there, (in general) so I play SC2 on my windows box.


this'll be useful though for those that don't know how to set it up, however, so good job :D
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andeh
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States904 Posts
December 24 2010 09:12 GMT
#14
I actually tried to do a full switch to ubuntu earlier this fall

It worked perfect, loved it. But my only gripe was I was only getting 50fps with ubuntu in sc2 when I used to get 100+ in w7 (nvidia 9800 gtx)


The day performance is closer to being equal is the day I leave windows forever~
ArdentZeal
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany155 Posts
December 24 2010 09:15 GMT
#15
u install wine from thee update center and afterwards install wine from the sources? something seems wrong there
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
December 26 2010 12:52 GMT
#16
On December 24 2010 18:15 ArdentZeal wrote:
u install wine from thee update center and afterwards install wine from the sources? something seems wrong there


simply installing from update manager does not bring all packages.
i installed from update manager and software center in order for the installer to create all the icons, so I don't have to.
you can choose to install just from updates, but then it's terminal and text commands forever until you choose to set up some kind of GUI.
if you think i went through all this trouble just to create something malicious then you are terribly wrong.
I just wanted people who are beginners in Ubuntu like me to have something to play SC2 with.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
December 26 2010 12:56 GMT
#17
1st step
You need to install Wine


Everytime I read this my heart breaks. What is the freaking point of installing an OS when you install a simulator of another OS right after. You'd be better off with Windows anyways - Linux is supposed to be used for work and programming, not gaming.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
December 26 2010 13:08 GMT
#18
On December 24 2010 18:12 andeh wrote:
I actually tried to do a full switch to ubuntu earlier this fall

It worked perfect, loved it. But my only gripe was I was only getting 50fps with ubuntu in sc2 when I used to get 100+ in w7 (nvidia 9800 gtx)


The day performance is closer to being equal is the day I leave windows forever~

That's not going to happen as long as Linux is forced to waste resources emulating executables, and nvidia and ati refuse to fully support their GPU's with up-to-date drivers equal to their Windows counterparts..
RoberT89
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico5 Posts
December 26 2010 15:49 GMT
#19
I'll add some info that I had to debug to install mine.

If you have a sound error in the sound tab of winecfg check the OSS driver and change the sound from full to emulate.

If you are having problems with the borders you will need to install fluxbox or something similar since this is a problem with gnome.

I like the tutorial but I think is a little rough for new users if you don't mind I think you can use a front-end like playlinux. If you need any help I'll gladdy give you my assistance.

Currently running SC2 in Ubuntu 10.10 with minor bugs during camping but nothing serious. I have a Nvidia 8400GS and a AMD Athlon X3 450
MegaBUD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada179 Posts
December 26 2010 16:29 GMT
#20
Why not just installing XP/7 ?

I'll never understand linux user... Unix is a server OS and never been made for home user...

If you really want something that use the backbone of unix... install macOS...
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-26 16:36:54
December 26 2010 16:35 GMT
#21
On December 27 2010 01:29 MegaBUD wrote:
Why not just installing XP/7 ?

I'll never understand linux user... Unix is a server OS and never been made for home user...

If you really want something that use the backbone of unix... install macOS...


People don't want to buy an OS and/or they prefer linux over XP/7....?

And lol@"install MacOS instead of Linux"

Way to lose all credibility dude.

I dual-boot Linux/Windows7. I use Linux for my psuedo-programming practice and internet browsing and all that, and have all my games on Win 7 with a separate External Hard Drive. It's just preference for me.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
December 26 2010 16:52 GMT
#22
On December 27 2010 01:35 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 01:29 MegaBUD wrote:
Why not just installing XP/7 ?

I'll never understand linux user... Unix is a server OS and never been made for home user...

If you really want something that use the backbone of unix... install macOS...


People don't want to buy an OS and/or they prefer linux over XP/7....?

And lol@"install MacOS instead of Linux"

Way to lose all credibility dude.

I dual-boot Linux/Windows7. I use Linux for my psuedo-programming practice and internet browsing and all that, and have all my games on Win 7 with a separate External Hard Drive. It's just preference for me.


Now that's what should be done. Linux isn't supposed to run games. Linux is supposed for programming(-practice) and compiling and stuff. Windows was made for the dead end user and is supposed to be used for gaming.

There is no point in installing Linux if what you will do is install Wine. Wine is most likely the most stupid program of the actualities, where every non-gaming program can be used on Linux easily, and every program that can't be used on Linux, has a counterpart that is probably much more efficient.

People, if what you want to do is gaming, separate your HD into halves and install both OS. If you are a proud programmer/hacker(which is the correct term), you should be able to install windows without even paying it - if you, of course, acknowledge that it is illegal and you are probably going to jail if anyone finds out(who will? lol).

And "prefer linux over xp/7" is the most stupid argument possible. So, I prefer Coke over Heinekein, this means I'll mix alcohol into Coke if I want to get drunk by it? That's fucking ridiculous, in any way. Kids do that, but I don't think anyone here is a kid.
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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 26 2010 16:54 GMT
#23
I know it's a stupid argument, I'm just simply stating the fact that's that is what some people feel. I got a trial version of Win7 and never upgraded to the real version. It says every time I reboot that I need to "upgrade to paid version now" but I can just X out of it and it works just fine. So I got it for free basically.
RoberT89
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico5 Posts
December 26 2010 17:15 GMT
#24
On December 27 2010 01:52 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 01:35 Fruscainte wrote:
On December 27 2010 01:29 MegaBUD wrote:
Why not just installing XP/7 ?

I'll never understand linux user... Unix is a server OS and never been made for home user...

If you really want something that use the backbone of unix... install macOS...


People don't want to buy an OS and/or they prefer linux over XP/7....?

And lol@"install MacOS instead of Linux"

Way to lose all credibility dude.

I dual-boot Linux/Windows7. I use Linux for my psuedo-programming practice and internet browsing and all that, and have all my games on Win 7 with a separate External Hard Drive. It's just preference for me.


Now that's what should be done. Linux isn't supposed to run games. Linux is supposed for programming(-practice) and compiling and stuff. Windows was made for the dead end user and is supposed to be used for gaming.

There is no point in installing Linux if what you will do is install Wine. Wine is most likely the most stupid program of the actualities, where every non-gaming program can be used on Linux easily, and every program that can't be used on Linux, has a counterpart that is probably much more efficient.

People, if what you want to do is gaming, separate your HD into halves and install both OS. If you are a proud programmer/hacker(which is the correct term), you should be able to install windows without even paying it - if you, of course, acknowledge that it is illegal and you are probably going to jail if anyone finds out(who will? lol).

And "prefer linux over xp/7" is the most stupid argument possible. So, I prefer Coke over Heinekein, this means I'll mix alcohol into Coke if I want to get drunk by it? That's fucking ridiculous, in any way. Kids do that, but I don't think anyone here is a kid.


+1 Respect

I have XP and Ubuntu in dual boot. But since SC2 works almost perfect I dont need to use XP. But for example: If I want to play Dead Space I do open XP since Wine have some impossible bugs.

I don't think Wine is stupid though. Its a very usefull program when you dont want to open your virtual pc or your pc boot. It saves up time if you are lazy. And if you have wine, linux, a virtual pc and dual boot you are most likely lazy.
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
December 28 2010 09:08 GMT
#25
On December 27 2010 01:29 MegaBUD wrote:
Why not just installing XP/7 ?

I'll never understand linux user... Unix is a server OS and never been made for home user...

If you really want something that use the backbone of unix... install macOS...


The answer is quite simple.
windows7 and macOS both cost money
linux-based Operating Systems don't and never will.

Nowadays, Ubuntu starts to look more and more like a noob-friendly operating system.
So yeah, you can have a OS that is good, free and which can run games.

You can also try not to hate everybody who doesn't use the OS you use.
If you don't like the tutorial in this thread, ignore it and don't reply to it.
There are alot of people out there who want to stay legit and don't afford an expensive OS or simply don't want to waste money on it.

Anyways, if you don't understand the linux user don't even bother to.
People with this exclusivist kind of thinking are the ones who started all the world's greatest atrocities.
Enslave the blacks, kill the jews and take a dump on linux user's head.

I know i am going to receive a warning for my above line, but read the whole thing and analyse the context.

and have a fucking happy new year, Adolf!
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
roadrunner343
Profile Joined November 2010
148 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-28 09:40:46
December 28 2010 09:24 GMT
#26
Cool tutorial for those not familiar with linux.

I'm a huge fan of ubuntu and have used wine to play many other games. Most notably, guild wars. However, I went with an AMD card this time around. To make matters worse, I actually like Windows 7, so I haven't been motivated to jump full time to linux again as I did about 2 years ago. Still, always great to see advancements are being made. Now we just need some better drivers and for my entire steam library to work natively...

EDIT: LOL @ MegaBud's stupidity. Ubuntu is equally as user friendly if you don't plan on gaming. That's really the only thing that linux in general struggles with. For the most part, you don't even have to install drivers, it does it for you. Open office, Firefox, thunderbird, and VLC handle basically all of your core needs. Don't bash something just because you know nothing of it. Linux, and Ubuntu/Kubuntu in particular, has become a perfectly viable alternative to windows.
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
January 04 2011 14:37 GMT
#27
I played for a bit and been having problems when i quit the game, no problems ingame.
The game tries to report to blizzard that it got an error, but I guess it's because of the emulation.
So far I didn't have time to play it alot (due to holidays and everything), but as soon as I make some time and test things out a bit, I will come back with potential problems and so.

Also, want to make request to mods again:
change title
from Tutorial : play SC2 on Ubuntu 10.10 x64
to Tutorial : play SC2 on Ubuntu 10.10 x64 using WINE
There are alot of emulation programs, so I may post future tutorials, or another might post and confusions would be avoided this way.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 14:52:48
January 04 2011 14:50 GMT
#28
Concerning the ATI driver warning - is that poor performance for both the open and closed drivers?

Open is xf86-video-ati
Closed is fglrx (Catalyst)

@The person talking about the poor performance

A Radeon HD3450 is very weak and I am surprised it runs SC2 under Windows. Of course Wine "emulation" is going to make it slower under Ubuntu, but if you at least had the recommended-specs SC2 GPU or equivalent (HD3870, more than 8x as fast as yours) it might work better?

MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
January 04 2011 14:56 GMT
#29
On January 04 2011 23:50 Soleron wrote:
Concerning the ATI driver warning - is that poor performance for both the open and closed drivers?

Open is xf86-video-ati
Closed is fglrx (Catalyst)

@The person talking about the poor performance

A Radeon HD3450 is very weak and I am surprised it runs SC2 under Windows. Of course Wine "emulation" is going to make it slower under Ubuntu, but if you at least had the recommended-specs SC2 GPU or equivalent (HD3870, more than 8x as fast as yours) it might work better?



i don't know exactly.
I just seen this on the internet, i don't know for myself since i got nVidia on my PC.
I odn't even know if it's a driver issue or if it's the way WINE behaves.
Please, do some research on your own and google this.
I posted the method and included the warning in the OP.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
January 04 2011 15:17 GMT
#30
Starcraft 2 is on playonlinux
http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/playonlinux
bruteMax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada339 Posts
January 04 2011 17:40 GMT
#31
Would this work for 32bit versions of Ubuntu 10.10?
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bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
January 04 2011 18:16 GMT
#32
I installed SC2 on FreeBSD. The installation process is more complicated than on Linux
it works great.
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 04 2011 18:17 GMT
#33
I have to carefully resize the window so that the edge scrolling works as intended (might be because I use the xmonad window manager), but other than that it works like a treat. :D
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RoberT89
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico5 Posts
January 04 2011 18:46 GMT
#34
On January 05 2011 02:40 bruteMax wrote:
Would this work for 32bit versions of Ubuntu 10.10?


Yes it does. I use the 32 bits version an works just fine.
master beef
Profile Joined October 2010
United States21 Posts
January 04 2011 19:36 GMT
#35
Great guide! this will certainly be useful for newer linux users and people who may just be interested in messing with wine on linux.

now let my rant begin.

I have been using linux and other unix based OS' for 14+ years now. I run Arch exclusively now but have tried every major distro and many lesser known as well as all the flavors of BSD. That being said it pains me greatly to see 'elite' unix users stomp about shitting on people for not using the os in what they perceive to be the correct way. These people have forgotten what the whole point of Linux is.

Linux is about doing whatever the fuck you want to do with it.

If all you wanna do is code in a screen session on a framebuffer without X awesome! do it! Just wanna throw it in a closet and use it as a server, router, proxie, or vpn? Awesome do it! And yes if you wanna just play games on it awesome DO IT!

Freedom and Flexibility! You have the ability to make linux do whatever you wanna do naysayers be damned.

I mean no offense to anyone here but people need to chill the fuck with the elite internet fascism. Honestly if you have a problem with what someone is doing with their *nix keep it to yourself. No one cares and nothing you say will change what I do on MY *nix because you have no right to dictate to me ( or anyone) how i use it.

Might i suggest for those who can't stand the thought of people using your beloved coding os to game on, that you start using GNU Hurd. I promise you'll be far far away from the dirty 3d rendering and evil multimedia parasites that are *ruining* linux.

Have a nice day!
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 04 2011 19:52 GMT
#36
By the way, has anyone figured out how to fix the mouse? I.e. a setting like Windows' "enhance mouse precision"? I want to disable mouse acceleration, but then it's soooo sloooow.
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FrostedMiniWeet
Profile Joined July 2009
United States636 Posts
January 04 2011 19:52 GMT
#37
On December 23 2010 17:47 MindRush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2010 17:36 LeCastor wrote:
Thank you so much for this work. I am planing to assemble a new PC, and i was worried a lot about the windows licence. This solves the problem.

The previous tutorials i have already read use 'playonlinux', you think wine is more straightforward ?

Hope this won't be broken by any future patchs.



My advice is install Ubuntu and restrain yourself from uninstalling it. When you encounter a problem go online and seek a solution. In time, you will love Ubuntu, and it will always be free of charge. Also better Direct3D emulations will become available, and windows executables will run faster, due to better resource management of linux.

Future patches can't break this. It's windows emulation, not linux. I believe Blizzard should make a linux version of SC2 for the linux users, unless they are paid by Microsoft and/or Apple not to do so. Can't explain why only Windows and MacOS.

Show nested quote +
On December 23 2010 17:38 JWill wrote:
This is a great guide! I wasn't aware wine would run SC2 without any problems, so I've just been playing on my windows install.

Have you experienced any bugs, crashes, or performance issues under wine?

Great contribution to the community, MindRush



Wine is the only thing I tried, so nothing to compare it with I'm affraid.
The only thing is that performance might lack due to the bad emulation of Direct3D.
Other than this, if you make the changes to winecfg as I posted, you should have no problem.


Don't be silly, Why on earth would Blizzard make a Linux version of SC2? Do you know how much work would be involved in supporting another platform? There is little to no demand for Linux games, and simply no market for it as 99.99% of gamers use Windows or Mac. Don't get me wrong, I love Linux as much as the next geek as I was an avid Ubuntu user in college, but it is not ideal for people who just want the bloody thing to work.

Also, you have to keep in mind that Linux is an open source platform, and few proprietary applications have ever had success on it, as its user base is obsessed with pirating and only using free or open source software. Not to mention the fact that there are a billion different versions of linux, and supporting them all is simply not feasible.
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 19:57:43
January 04 2011 19:56 GMT
#38
On December 23 2010 17:13 MindRush wrote:
Expaination:

This is a tutorial for people who have Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit installed on their systems.
You don't need to pay about $300 on an OS to play SC2 legally. You can play SC2 on Ubuntu10.10, which is free.


Not an attempt to derail, but I spent like 120 for my OS. What OS are you talking about? Just always hearing linux-heads say that windows costs 300 dollars. Kinda funny.

Anyways, good topic and happy to see that even more people now have a way of playing SC2!

EDIT: Yeah Windows 7 Ultimate (which is so incredibly overkill and hardly anyone would use the features from that in comparison to Home or Pro) is 260 bucks. So not even 300, and a version that no one really buys unless they are in a work space where they require it.
srsly
Ebos
Profile Joined November 2010
United States44 Posts
January 04 2011 20:00 GMT
#39
Nice tutorial, wtg supporting open source community. Did you see a large decrease in performance running sc2 under wine?
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
January 04 2011 20:03 GMT
#40
On December 27 2010 01:29 MegaBUD wrote:
Why not just installing XP/7 ?

I'll never understand linux user... Unix is a server OS and never been made for home user...

If you really want something that use the backbone of unix... install macOS...


I'm a programmer and use windows to program in c/java/ruby/perl/php etc. There is nothing wrong with programming in the windows operating system. Plus the interface is a lot nicer. I've used all of the different operating systems and for 99.999% of what anyone does, windows does just as well as everything else. With windows server 2008, windows is also now a viable server solution, but I still like linux for my server just a little more because i am used to the functionality.
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Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
January 04 2011 20:22 GMT
#41
you will lose about 50% of your windows performance running sc2 in wine.

and microsoft.com lists windows 7 professional at 300 dollars and ultimate at 320.
for germans its the same only in euro.
while one is sure to find a better deal i dont thinkt its wrong for "linux-heads" to quote 300 dollars.
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
January 04 2011 21:58 GMT
#42
On January 05 2011 05:22 Garbels wrote:
you will lose about 50% of your windows performance running sc2 in wine.

and microsoft.com lists windows 7 professional at 300 dollars and ultimate at 320.
for germans its the same only in euro.
while one is sure to find a better deal i dont thinkt its wrong for "linux-heads" to quote 300 dollars.


seems to me like 300 USD is cash well spent on hardware, better than on software.
Moreover, emulation just keeps getting better and better, so 50% loss is exagerated even now
"Linux-heads" can use the 300 USD gap in software by investing in hardware.
Think about this for now .......... not a bad idea is it ?
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
SamGamgee
Profile Joined December 2010
79 Posts
January 04 2011 22:15 GMT
#43
i got windows 7 for like 70 bucks legit through microsoft's student discount. all you needed was a university e-mail address.

first OS ive ever purchased, well worth it.
Blurzz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States33 Posts
January 04 2011 22:26 GMT
#44
I was hoping this solution wouldn't have to rely on WINE. Oh well, good job never-the-less. I'm still somewhat suprised Blizzard didn't port this game to Linux since they already have a Mac version.
"You can only get smarter by playing a smarter opponent."
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
January 04 2011 22:35 GMT
#45
If you play on a laptop, always set your cpufreq-selector to -g performance and do the same with your video card if you can (i use the nvidia graphical config thing to set it to maximum performance instead of adaptive)

wine lets the cpu and gpu sleep too much if you put it on on-demand or whatever, resulting a fairly laggy experience. this might also apply to desktop cpus/gpus that have similar functionality.

also, afaik, blizzard -does- unofficially support wine; they test on it in-house but they will never do public support for it
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Robellicose
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England245 Posts
January 04 2011 22:35 GMT
#46
Great How-To mindrush, got it running. However, I have an ATI card and my PC simply can't cope whilst running on the open-source driver (I have an ATI card no longer supported by the flgrx driver) so I shall continue dual booting.

The 50% loss is actually a bit wierd. Certain games I've played under Wine (which isn't emulation software, it's more accurate to call it a compatibility layer) such as Serious Sam 1 & 2 have ran faster under wine than in native windows. Some have ran just as smoothly and some have been dog awful. Distressingly you can never be that sure how well a windows program will run on your computer under wine until you try it out.

An aside as a long-term linux user, ATI cards run TERRIBLY under linux. This is down to the drivers supplied by ATI. There is an open-source driver available, which certainly works well enough for simple 3-D (my desktop is very pretty) but it struggles with higher-end graphics.

Summary - if you want to play games on linux, get an NVIDIA card. And encourage the spread of linux. Until it's commercially viable for the companies to spend the time and effort creating the drivers, it's not going to happen.
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bejurne
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany29 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 13:07:05
January 05 2011 13:06 GMT
#47
Nice tutorial.

I am a bit puzzled though. Why do you first install wine from the repository and then build it yourself from the source? Is there any reason for this?
artanis2
Profile Joined April 2010
United States732 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 15:03:04
January 05 2011 14:55 GMT
#48
Great tutorial! Now to respond to some of the absurd messages in this thread...

You guys that say linux is only for programming and work are being extremely closed minded! Linux is meant to be a full OS capable of anything that can be done on the hardware it is running on. That includes games and media!

Wine is not emulation. It runs x86 and x64 binaries natively and hooks up dll function calls the exact same way windows does. There are two ways that performance can fall behind windows. The first, and most obvious is because of the lacking graphics support provided by Nvidia and AMD in linux compared to windows. The second is when wine's code isn't as efficient as the microsoft implementation but this is not an issue in most cases because most cpu time is spent in the executable's own code, not the wine libraries. The third (that I didn't think of initially) is that the directX api is being converted to openGL on the fly. This is not a trivial task because the APIs are completely different and causes both functionality and performance losses.

Gallium3d is an amazing project that already has full the directx 10/11 interface implemented on linux. If the big gfx chip makers would create drivers for it for their cards, we'd be able to run direct3d natively on linux with no performance loss. But for now that is only a dream...


edited to provide link and third bullet in p2
linduxed
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden111 Posts
January 05 2011 15:41 GMT
#49
I'm very excited to try this under Arch. I've been putting it off for quite a while since I dualboot Win7 for games, but I'm interested to see how well it can work.
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
January 05 2011 16:08 GMT
#50
On January 05 2011 06:58 MindRush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 05:22 Garbels wrote:
you will lose about 50% of your windows performance running sc2 in wine.

and microsoft.com lists windows 7 professional at 300 dollars and ultimate at 320.
for germans its the same only in euro.
while one is sure to find a better deal i dont thinkt its wrong for "linux-heads" to quote 300 dollars.


seems to me like 300 USD is cash well spent on hardware, better than on software.
Moreover, emulation just keeps getting better and better, so 50% loss is exagerated even now
"Linux-heads" can use the 300 USD gap in software by investing in hardware.
Think about this for now .......... not a bad idea is it ?


Okay, so if you buy a pre-build computer, it is very easy to get one includes windows without adding much cost.

If you are actually building your own computer, you should be getting the oem copy so you can get Windows 7 pro for $140.

Now on top of that, there is absolutely no reason to buy Windows 7 pro unless you want to join a windows domain, which you cannot do with linux anyways so you should be getting Windows 7 home oem for $100.

Are you really going to make up for the performance difference with $100 of hardware? No, you're not. On top of the fact that there will still be tons of things that just won't work.

There are good reasons to use linux, but saving yourself from the cost of a MS OS is probably the most stupid and over exaggerated one and I would love to be able to use linux exclusively but SC2 is one of the reasons I don't and getting it to run under wine is a waste of my time and hardware.
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bejurne
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany29 Posts
January 05 2011 17:07 GMT
#51
I can report that this works very well on Debian Squeeze 32bit. I have to reduce the graphics settings slightly compared to Win7 to run it smoothly. It is amazing how well this runs though, no glitches or random crashes.

To save others the time: If you want to mount the sc2 iso, you need to use the unhide option to see all the contents. So the mount command should look something like this:

+ Show Spoiler +
mount <path to iso> /mnt -o loop,unhide


Maybe add this to the OP.

PS: Let us please keep this thread on the technical side. There are plenty of places out on the internet to fight the holy OS war. This is not one of them.
MrKibbles
Profile Joined December 2010
United States19 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 20:14:34
January 05 2011 20:30 GMT
#52
edit: never mind, made a separate thread
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
March 25 2011 15:37 GMT
#53
On January 06 2011 02:07 bejurne wrote:
I can report that this works very well on Debian Squeeze 32bit. I have to reduce the graphics settings slightly compared to Win7 to run it smoothly. It is amazing how well this runs though, no glitches or random crashes.

To save others the time: If you want to mount the sc2 iso, you need to use the unhide option to see all the contents. So the mount command should look something like this:

+ Show Spoiler +
mount <path to iso> /mnt -o loop,unhide


Maybe add this to the OP.

PS: Let us please keep this thread on the technical side. There are plenty of places out on the internet to fight the holy OS war. This is not one of them.


i didn't install from .iso
you can use the original DVD or just use the version u can download from blizzard official site anyways
i do not want to list every possibility (how to install from .iso image, how to install on a removable drive, etc)- just how to install locally and normally and make the game work
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goneim
Profile Joined May 2010
China201 Posts
March 25 2011 15:39 GMT
#54
Wow, this is huge, gotta give it a try
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TehForce
Profile Joined July 2010
1072 Posts
March 25 2011 16:05 GMT
#55
Just to correct some misunderstandings:

Wine IS NOT an emulator. It maps windows system calls to the linux counterparts. Thats why every programm running with wine is just as fast (if not even faster) than in windows. The reason sc2 is running slower in linux is the unoptimized graphic card driver from Nvidia (or even worse: from AMD)


Also for all those people who complain about people trying to run sc2 in linux.

If somebody is using linux as his main system, why should this person
- spend additonal 80+$ for windows
- spend time to configure windows
- reserve hard drive space for windows
- wait for a reboot EVERY time he wants to play / work with his pc

when there is a way to make it possible in linux.

Just let the linux people alone, will you?
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Nahema
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany54 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-25 16:24:04
March 25 2011 16:20 GMT
#56
in my experience wine 1.3 produces better results with SC2. Is there a reason for you using 1.2?

Edit: win vs linux disscussion.... always annoying as hell
I run Ubuntu and Win 7 but i prefer to work under Ubuntu, its less nerv consuming *g*.
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Scraps
Profile Joined June 2010
United States39 Posts
March 25 2011 16:57 GMT
#57
Windows 7 64-bit for a computer you build is $99. Seems faster, easier and smoother overall. I'm not a huge fan of Windows persay but the cost isn't exactly a barrier considering you're probably paying $500 minimum for a Starcraft 2-capable computer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754&cm_re=windows_7_oem-_-32-116-754-_-Product
Scraps
Dmytro
Profile Joined November 2005
United States19 Posts
August 03 2011 16:38 GMT
#58
hey I just ran into your post and it helped me a whole bunch <3 thanks!! ]
WTFZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
United States704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 16:51:48
August 03 2011 16:50 GMT
#59
I was not aware of the fact that many people even paid for Windows licenses anymore unless they were for a corporate setting. Not that I'm advocating going out and pirating it, just that I literally know nobody who has paid for it.

At any rate, I used Linux for about a year (CentOS) when I was younger and learned a great deal about it, but at the end of the day there's no real reason to use it over Windows unless you are running a server.

$0.02

Edit: Oh christ I didn't realize this was a necro'd thread.
Might makes right.
Gogleion
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 20:15:17
August 08 2011 20:03 GMT
#60
Okay, I updated wine and added all the dependencies + SC2 patch listed in steps 1-3.

I did
wine /media/SC2*/Installer.exe


And got a box saying

Sorry, the installer was unable to start up.

No installer data could be found. If this problem persists, please contact Blizzard Technical Support.


Running Ubuntu 10.04 and Wine 1.3.26

EDIT: If adding http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu to your update manager doesn't work, then you can add ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa instead.

Source:
http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
EffOrt. That is all.
christo
Profile Joined June 2012
Hungary3 Posts
February 08 2013 18:46 GMT
#61
So I installed SC2 with playonlinux, and installed wine also. Tryed to execute it in the gui and I got this error:
"Failed to extract required files from an archive. Please try again."
And got this link: https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/BLZPTS00008

If I start in terminal with "wine start sc2.exe" that gives me infinitly this message:
fixme:advapi:SetNamedSecurityInfoW L"C:\\users\\Public\\Application Data\\Battle.net\\Setup\\s2_enus\\Log\\Setup-20130208-171019464.log" 1 4 (nil) (nil) 0x1445e8 (nil)

So I tried to follow your guide. It marked to be about 64 os. But...

at this point
tools/make_requests && ./configure && make depend && make
error message
"configure: error: Cannot build a 32-bit program, you need to install 32-bit development libraries."

at this point
sudo make install
error message
"make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop."

I have a dell laptop with ati video card, ubuntu 64 bit was installed originally.
Civilisation is before all, the will to live in common. A man is uncivilised, barbarian in the degree in which he does not take others into account.
Leh Aloha
Profile Joined March 2013
Belarus1 Post
March 03 2013 03:20 GMT
#62
On February 09 2013 03:46 christo wrote:
But...
at this point
tools/make_requests && ./configure && make depend && make
error message
"configure: error: Cannot build a 32-bit program, you need to install 32-bit development libraries."

Try
tools/make_requests && ./configure --enable-win64 && make depend && make
Normal
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