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On December 04 2010 12:54 Howl67 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 12:50 eH wrote:
The second that infestor change goes through I'm done playing zerg, that might be the worst idea I've ever seen them come up with. I can't even put into words how absolutely ass-backwards and fucked up that is. This. So incredibly stupid. That combined with the larva repeat thing is just insane. I hope community testing just ends up proving this to be broken and they don't end up going through with it for good.
Does it really not make you feel silly to post things like this only an hour after it came out? Considering the fact that most balance changes can't be fully ironed out and understood for at least a week or so, it makes you come off as quite childish.
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The new chat channels are fking ugly. Cant they just use WC3 interface
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lol thor rush nerf YAY :D
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On December 04 2010 12:40 Onioncookie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 12:37 Silidons wrote:On December 04 2010 12:33 Luckbox wrote:On December 04 2010 12:33 Silidons wrote:
I don't understand your and other zergs reasoning. Phoenix's deal with Muta harrass, but you forced us to make Phoenix's. Why are you avoiding Corruptors? We had to make Phoenix, but you don't have to make Corruptor like us? That's what I don't understand. You're completely avoiding the real strategy and trying to make it look like it's worse for you than it actually is. If Corruptors were as efficient a counter as Phoenixes are to Mutas I would be completely onboard. Corruptors absolutely destroy Phoenix...what game are you playing? 2 more range on them too. Wich unit can run away, and so doesnt have to fight?? Wich unit can harras the others player supply? Wich unit can be used to harras production/income? Now you know how i feel 
The mutalisk?
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I'm kinda disappointed how the chat channels look like.
They're basically a glorified version of the chat windows we had before. And it really took over half a year to do this?
I expected something more "classic" in terms of chat channels. But as long as they do their job, I'm satisfied.
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Being able to be in multiple chat channels is nice though, compared to bnet 1.0.
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Liking the patch because it buffs P obviously, but I think it's in the right places. Hallucination is now more viable early game, observers make the cost of defending banshees a little lower, phoenixes make mutaling less of a staple option, and the FG nerf could bring back those air-colossi builds, which is always fun.
Also, SCV priority's been # issue since the beta IMO, glad it was made proper.
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I'm guessing PvP will quickly turn into an air matchup with maybe a few colossi since vrs counter colossus now and phoenix counters vrs.
of course phoenices will be great against Z too, and VRs counter thors better now.
Protoss = air race? how fun!
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On December 04 2010 12:56 Asshat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 12:40 Onioncookie wrote:On December 04 2010 12:37 Silidons wrote:On December 04 2010 12:33 Luckbox wrote:On December 04 2010 12:33 Silidons wrote:
I don't understand your and other zergs reasoning. Phoenix's deal with Muta harrass, but you forced us to make Phoenix's. Why are you avoiding Corruptors? We had to make Phoenix, but you don't have to make Corruptor like us? That's what I don't understand. You're completely avoiding the real strategy and trying to make it look like it's worse for you than it actually is. If Corruptors were as efficient a counter as Phoenixes are to Mutas I would be completely onboard. Corruptors absolutely destroy Phoenix...what game are you playing? 2 more range on them too. Wich unit can run away, and so doesnt have to fight?? Wich unit can harras the others player supply? Wich unit can be used to harras production/income? Now you know how i feel The mutalisk?
If you watch game 1 of the GSL between Julyzerg and ogsMC you'll see that mc went phoenix + void ray first game and july switch to corrupters to shut down toss air. he then went hydra + roach and had like 6 corrupters denying collosi
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I like how every single balance change, in every single patch, ever, is designed to force terran into even more linear bio-style gameplay. Buffing Void Rays and Phoenixes is pretty much the nail in the coffin for mech or air tvp. Truly sad.
Fungal no longer hitting air suits me very well, but it's a fucking retarded change. All of the 'balance' changes are fucking ludicrious, tbh. Hope the channels are worth the game being slightly shittier.
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Gahhh so much rage why can't I get in...
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wow so many changes. Protoss flux vanes gone?!
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On December 04 2010 12:55 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 12:54 Howl67 wrote:On December 04 2010 12:50 eH wrote:
The second that infestor change goes through I'm done playing zerg, that might be the worst idea I've ever seen them come up with. I can't even put into words how absolutely ass-backwards and fucked up that is. This. So incredibly stupid. That combined with the larva repeat thing is just insane. I hope community testing just ends up proving this to be broken and they don't end up going through with it for good. Does it really not make you feel silly to post things like this only an hour after it came out? Considering the fact that most balance changes can't be fully ironed out and understood for at least a week or so, it makes you come off as quite childish.
I hope community testing just ends up proving this to be broken and they don't end up going through with it for good.
People should learn to read before theyre taught to write.
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On December 04 2010 12:50 eH wrote:
The second that infestor change goes through I'm done playing zerg, that might be the worst idea I've ever seen them come up with. I can't even put into words how absolutely ass-backwards and fucked up that is.
Why? Zerg goes air it forces toss into certain builds (blink stalk, phoenix). So because now you can't stop an entire air army with 1 unit the race is fucked? I think you should consider that in this game choices must be made and you can react with corruptors, hydras, queens, spores, etc.
It's like complaining because toss has to get a robo bay against terran in case he goes banshees, it's not fucked up - it's just a mechanic of the game.
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On December 04 2010 12:56 Asshat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 12:40 Onioncookie wrote:On December 04 2010 12:37 Silidons wrote:On December 04 2010 12:33 Luckbox wrote:On December 04 2010 12:33 Silidons wrote:
I don't understand your and other zergs reasoning. Phoenix's deal with Muta harrass, but you forced us to make Phoenix's. Why are you avoiding Corruptors? We had to make Phoenix, but you don't have to make Corruptor like us? That's what I don't understand. You're completely avoiding the real strategy and trying to make it look like it's worse for you than it actually is. If Corruptors were as efficient a counter as Phoenixes are to Mutas I would be completely onboard. Corruptors absolutely destroy Phoenix...what game are you playing? 2 more range on them too. Wich unit can run away, and so doesnt have to fight?? Wich unit can harras the others player supply? Wich unit can be used to harras production/income? Now you know how i feel The mutalisk?
Lol nice but that goes into that unit circle again Muta<Pheanix<Collosi into non counter?!
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If you can no longer fungal air units then void rays late game are going to be a pain in the ass.
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Personally I think all the changes are good, except for the bunker change (which may not be implemented) and the FG change. The FG change is just dumb and unnecessary, kind of like the DT nerf back in beta. Protoss player here.
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i dont think the fungal growth change will affect me that much because i don't use them against air that much but it will make the game less interesting.
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On December 04 2010 12:56 Asshat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 12:40 Onioncookie wrote:On December 04 2010 12:37 Silidons wrote:On December 04 2010 12:33 Luckbox wrote:On December 04 2010 12:33 Silidons wrote:
I don't understand your and other zergs reasoning. Phoenix's deal with Muta harrass, but you forced us to make Phoenix's. Why are you avoiding Corruptors? We had to make Phoenix, but you don't have to make Corruptor like us? That's what I don't understand. You're completely avoiding the real strategy and trying to make it look like it's worse for you than it actually is. If Corruptors were as efficient a counter as Phoenixes are to Mutas I would be completely onboard. Corruptors absolutely destroy Phoenix...what game are you playing? 2 more range on them too. Wich unit can run away, and so doesnt have to fight?? Wich unit can harras the others player supply? Wich unit can be used to harras production/income? Now you know how i feel The mutalisk?
Owned!
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Argh I'm not looking forward to this...
Can't use infestors to stop drops and banshee harass anymore, and fast phoenix to colossus will be even more stronger... bleh. Make hydras viable for tvz plz.....
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