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skipdog172
Profile Joined June 2010
United States331 Posts
December 05 2010 05:04 GMT
#181
On December 05 2010 13:59 SCC-Faust wrote:
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On December 05 2010 13:51 skipdog172 wrote:
I just watched TT1 get crushed on his stream in a completely standard game by PiQliQ. No major blunders(like a rare game ending mistake that rarely happens) by TT1 that I could clearly see. He made some micro mistakes and PiQliQ didn't. No cheesy gimmics. TT1 just got outplayed.


If you're talking about the Lost Temple game - you obviously missed the major blunder.


I may have, what happened exactly?
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 05:14:54
December 05 2010 05:14 GMT
#182
On December 05 2010 14:04 skipdog172 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 13:59 SCC-Faust wrote:
On December 05 2010 13:51 skipdog172 wrote:
I just watched TT1 get crushed on his stream in a completely standard game by PiQliQ. No major blunders(like a rare game ending mistake that rarely happens) by TT1 that I could clearly see. He made some micro mistakes and PiQliQ didn't. No cheesy gimmics. TT1 just got outplayed.


If you're talking about the Lost Temple game - you obviously missed the major blunder.


I may have, what happened exactly?


TT1 was going for a contain after unable trying to break through PiQliQ's ramp.
When PiQliQ moved down his ramp, TT1 missed the only forcefield he had and lost all his units to PiQliQ's bio force.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
December 05 2010 20:13 GMT
#183
On December 05 2010 13:51 skipdog172 wrote:
I just watched TT1 get crushed on his stream in a completely standard game by PiQliQ. No major blunders(like a rare game ending mistake that rarely happens) by TT1 that I could clearly see. He made some micro mistakes and PiQliQ didn't. No cheesy gimmics. TT1 just got outplayed.

It seems like people are hating because PiQliQ experiments with a lot of crazy strategies and *gasp* perfects his various cheese on the ladder.

How does that make any sense?? Isn't that what everybody here always advocates? I can't understand how he could've played so few standard games to be so talented in his game vs. TT1. Some players say he only cheeses and my best guess is that they played him while he was practicing various cheese over and over.


wtf wat game were u watching
1) my 3g + vd rush didnt do any damage which put me behind economically(cus u have to probe cut for the build)
2) i messed up my ff on his ramp and he broke my contain
3) he killed my expansion
4) in the final battle i pressed hold position on my units lol
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danielzig
Profile Joined December 2010
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 04:57:42
December 06 2010 04:52 GMT
#184
As a fan I would love to see PiQLiQ in some tournies. I have watched several of his replays now and they were all very exciting because they are so atypical. Someone should invite him, it would be fun. Plus, him being "bad mannered" and coming up with unique strats gives him a kind of enigma.. love him or hate him.. the sport needs guys like that who blaze their own trails.
skipdog172
Profile Joined June 2010
United States331 Posts
December 06 2010 18:21 GMT
#185
On December 06 2010 05:13 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 13:51 skipdog172 wrote:
I just watched TT1 get crushed on his stream in a completely standard game by PiQliQ. No major blunders(like a rare game ending mistake that rarely happens) by TT1 that I could clearly see. He made some micro mistakes and PiQliQ didn't. No cheesy gimmics. TT1 just got outplayed.

It seems like people are hating because PiQliQ experiments with a lot of crazy strategies and *gasp* perfects his various cheese on the ladder.

How does that make any sense?? Isn't that what everybody here always advocates? I can't understand how he could've played so few standard games to be so talented in his game vs. TT1. Some players say he only cheeses and my best guess is that they played him while he was practicing various cheese over and over.


wtf wat game were u watching
1) my 3g + vd rush didnt do any damage which put me behind economically(cus u have to probe cut for the build)
2) i messed up my ff on his ramp and he broke my contain
3) he killed my expansion
4) in the final battle i pressed hold position on my units lol


Hey, I'm not trying to bash you or your play!

You lost because you made mistakes and PiqLiq didn't. I'm not sure what the point of your excuses for losing are... you made mistakes. I don't see how your mistakes are somehow excusable or change the fact that you lost to PiqLiq in a standard game.

Your rush failed. You messed up a forcefield. He killed your expansion. You had a micro blunder in the final battle(which you may have very well lost anyways). We don't even know if you not making your mistake would have guaranteed you a victory.

These are the same mistakes that cost games in any setting. You were outplayed that game by Piqliq. I'm sorry if that hurts you to hear. It is true. It was just one game though and you probably beat him far more than he beats you.

The only point I was trying to make is that Piqliq looked very solid against a top top top player like yourself. Thus, it makes no sense to hear people bash him because he cheeses when he is very capable of beating top players in a standard game.
shouri
Profile Joined May 2010
90 Posts
December 06 2010 18:32 GMT
#186
Maybe I'll start hating him too when I see other people use medivacs to avoid feedback snipes on ghosts (or other people use ghosts at all).

He's definitely cheesy but he isn't all about cheesing either. I like watching him play terran against minigun although I don't like when piqliq plays protoss.

It's a lot better than watching minigun play drewbie and having drewbie complain about balance when he doesn't have a factory 20-30 minutes into the game.
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 06 2010 18:45 GMT
#187
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