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I don't know if this thread belongs to this section, please move it to another seciton if it's wrong.
I'm an American Chinese and I find most English / Chinese commentators address players by their game ID's instead of their real names.
On the other hand I sometimes listen to Korean streams and find Korean commentators addressing players by their IRL names: When I watch WCG Starcraft games the Korean commentators address foreign players as "Gregu Fields" (IdrA) or "Sha Jun Chun" (PJ)". Of course they might have difficulty pronouncing some foreigner's names (like Eastern European names) and pronounce their ID instead they still try hard to address them by their real names.
There's a fuss after GSL Season 2 with foreign Foxer fans QQ'ing about him not fulfilling his promise to change to Foxer or changing to lame ID's like Optimus. But many of my Korean firneds don't really care since Foxer will always be remembered by his real name "Lee Jyung Hoo" as he was introduced by the commentators in tournaments .
I'm making this thread since I'm generally concerned of the development of the non-Korean e-sports scene. In many sports ecents players are introduced by their names+family names with respect. Only crappy entertainment events like WWE address players by their nicknames (Undertaker, Triple H etc...) as opposed to let's say UFC. Should the English speaking community address e-sports players by their real real names?
I personally find addressing players by their real names more respectful and professional, but it probably has more to do with Korean manners..
I would like you hear your thoughts, it will be great with Koreans sharing their thoughts as well
Poll: How should we address players in LAN events / tournaments?Their game ID's (169) 78% Their real names (49) 22% 218 total votes Your vote: How should we address players in LAN events / tournaments? (Vote): Their game ID's
(Vote): Their real names
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If you know the "guy/girl" you can adress them by their names if ur in ventrilo. I think personaly that if someone says "SiGurD" to me in vent it feels kinda geeky. But people who doesnt know me or if you talk to someone u should say "Sigurd" just so people would know because its kinda hard to remember everyones irl name imo.
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I think using real names is a good step to help esports grow. By using their real names i think people make more of a personal connection rather then just using some nerd handle. also it makes things seem more legitimate
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I would prefer real name addressing.
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I'm on the side of calling them by their game handles. That's the area they're in, and they picked their ID because that was how they wanted to be known by the community.
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who cares seriously
I doubt if we call Greg by his ID Idra it will slow down e-sports development.
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On November 25 2010 22:39 petzergling wrote:
I think using real names is a good step to help esports grow. By using their real names i think people make more of a personal connection rather then just using some nerd handle. also it makes things seem more legitimate
Lets take an example which is a problem sometimes. If 2-5 (example) has the same name? What would you say then? isnt it much easier just to say like "DIMAGA, Strelok" its a "gaming community"
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
When addressing in:
First person:Name
Third Person: ID
hope this answers your question. :D
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On November 25 2010 22:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
When addressing in:
First person:Name
Third Person: ID
hope this answers your question. :D
I agree with this. I find it extremely awkward when Tastosis call each other by their nicknames, rather than their given first names.
On the other hand, making a cool ID and getting known by it is a cool way to pay homage to a clan or a sponsor.
In the Quake scene, pro players usually set their clantag to the sponsor's company name.
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I've been saying the same thing for a long time: real names are less confusing and more professional.
Part of the reason why Brood War is so successful as a spectator sport has to do with the professionalism involved in its presentation. When foreign e-sports commentators are referring to our players in what probably sounds like geeky nerd lingo to non-gamers, it doesn't exactly help to improve the general view of e-sports. In Korea, you will find people who watch Brood War that don't even play video games. Wouldn't it be cool if the same could be said for foreign e-sports?
Players change their ID every now and then, and it gets pretty confusing when people are referring to the same person by different nicknames. And of course some players have the same ID as older players such as "foxer" and "fake yellow". Real names totally avoids this annoying confusion.
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On November 25 2010 22:44 SiGurD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2010 22:39 petzergling wrote:
I think using real names is a good step to help esports grow. By using their real names i think people make more of a personal connection rather then just using some nerd handle. also it makes things seem more legitimate Lets take an example which is a problem sometimes. If 2-5 (example) has the same name? What would you say then? isnt it much easier just to say like "DIMAGA, Strelok" its a "gaming community"
I dont see how thats any different then two people having the same gamertag... there will always be ways around it
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One problem is that Korean names are notoriously hard to remember for us westerners. The only one I remember is Lim Yo-Hwan.
But I agree with OP that it would be preferable to switch to use real life names.
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I'd think it should be ID's unless you are directly talking to them in an interview or something. I also prefer ID's in casts because Korean names are really difficult for western cultures to distinguish from each other (as a generalization).
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Being Korean and having watched e-sports casted in Korea, I'm just used to having players referred to by their real names. Sometimes I have to look up the handles to figure out who we're talking about on TL. However, as the the majority of TL users would have difficult with Korean names.. I think we should just continue using game ID.. (
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The only reason western people called Korean progamers by their IDs was because it was easier. Now it's become habit.
Is it a bad thing? I dunno, I really can't see myself learning a whole bunch of korean names. But then again I'm lazy.
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I think it's inevitable. there are some things on which we dont have to compromise(i.e. the way events are covered- mostly through community effort on the forums) because they are part of the progress but names is something were "born" with.
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honestly if people wanted to be called by their real name they would use it as their ID
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On November 25 2010 23:06 silentreality wrote:
Being Korean and having watched e-sports casted in Korea, I'm just used to having players referred to by their real names. Sometimes I have to look up the handles to figure out who we're talking about on TL. However, as the the majority of TL users would have difficult with Korean names.. I think we should just continue using game ID.. (
Really the only people who would need to pronounce the names correctly at first are our English commentators. Once they do that, everyone else will simply imitate them. Korean names really aren't that difficult, come on.
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On November 25 2010 23:10 Polygamy wrote:
honestly if people wanted to be called by their real name they would use it as their ID
QFT. For example, I have my first name in my xbox live gamertag... because I personally find it awkward to be called something else by voice. Where in a game that doesn't promote as much voice chat, I don't care as much. (As evident by my current handle LOL)
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