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cnotbusch
United States133 Posts
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Scrimpton
United Kingdom465 Posts
ill post more when i get my jaw off the floor. | ||
Highwinds
Canada955 Posts
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TymerA
Netherlands759 Posts
I will do anything for that baneling. Anything ![]() | ||
gamecrazy
United States421 Posts
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Ghin
United States2391 Posts
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Mithix
United States28 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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Slakkoo
Sweden1119 Posts
On November 21 2010 21:24 Highwinds wrote: Very nice! Who is the Infested Person may I ask? It's Husky, I think | ||
ShivaN
United States933 Posts
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KezseN
Singapore1450 Posts
the roach n baneling,,, lovely pets~~ | ||
Legat0
United States318 Posts
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TadH
Canada1846 Posts
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
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WeeKeong
United States282 Posts
How long do you take to make one? | ||
Grond
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
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Dooba
Croatia588 Posts
is blown. | ||
Garnet
Vietnam9018 Posts
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Bensio
United Kingdom621 Posts
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frd
France164 Posts
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10672 Posts
keep up the good work brother! life of a starving artist ! :-D........i'm sure you are not starving though because geez your work is so freaking pro... so pro!! EDIT : WOW the baneling is so good | ||
Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On November 21 2010 22:47 frd wrote: Aren't you inviting a guaranteed lawsuit by selling these? Sell a T-Shirt at the statue price. Give statue away free with shirt? | ||
MindRush
Romania916 Posts
i would like to get my hands on something like that | ||
Mereel
Germany895 Posts
but 260 dollars idont know | ||
Kragx
Denmark236 Posts
Could probably do very well in some of the blizzard art-contests. | ||
grobo
Japan6199 Posts
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Shirolol
England504 Posts
They look fantastic! | ||
GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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cnotbusch
United States133 Posts
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United States1401 Posts
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Littlebootz
United States108 Posts
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AJ-
United States316 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
Massive props for work well done here! You should start selling these, would love having one in my room : P | ||
Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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LordofAscension
United States589 Posts
~LoA | ||
cnotbusch
United States133 Posts
On November 22 2010 02:50 LordofAscension wrote: Wow so awesome. If these were licensed I'd be all over them for my collection. I still might consider it but the price is a bit steep (for my wallet, not for the time I'm sure it took you to do these!). So awesome. ~LoA also remember i am open to offers the prices i place are just to set a bar ![]() | ||
Skvid
Lithuania751 Posts
What if some game developer made the game models by sculpting and 3d scanning them, instead of modeling them in 3d. After that everything would be done normally (adding skeleton, animating the model etc) I think it would create quite an interesting graphics style... if textured properly. | ||
MrCon
France29748 Posts
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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HellRoxYa
Sweden1614 Posts
Great looking sculptures anyway. | ||
HTX
Germany265 Posts
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
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Stijn
Netherlands363 Posts
On November 22 2010 03:16 Skvid wrote: The quality of these sculptures got me thinking.... What if some game developer made the game models by sculpting and 3d scanning them, instead of modeling them in 3d. After that everything would be done normally (adding skeleton, animating the model etc) I think it would create quite an interesting graphics style... if textured properly. I do know the Quake I and Doom enemies were made by sculpting them and then using photos made of those sculptures... not quite what you describe, of course, but still somewhat similar. | ||
braammbolius
179 Posts
On November 21 2010 21:38 deconduo wrote: While these are amazing, its pretty bad form to come on to TL and start advertising with your first post. Really ? This stuff is awesome | ||
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
The sheer talent needed and the amount of time required to make these....just amazing. | ||
theqat
United States2856 Posts
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xaeiu
432 Posts
definitely in the same talented cathegory like for example Soetchi! | ||
BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
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HalfAmazing
Netherlands402 Posts
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Hypatio
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cnotbusch
United States133 Posts
On November 22 2010 07:44 HalfAmazing wrote: that is a fabulous idea i have thought of using these as trophy's for competitions if anyone wants to help plan that i would be game! Should host a tournament with one of these for a prize, to draw more attention to them. | ||
NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
These are REALLY cool but abit pricey, obviously alot of work has gone it to them so they are reasonable for the cost but im broke :s | ||
Highways
Australia6103 Posts
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cnotbusch
United States133 Posts
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cHaNg-sTa
United States1058 Posts
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SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
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silencesc
United States464 Posts
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cnotbusch
United States133 Posts
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Orange Dream
10 Posts
Teeth on zergling and hydra look a little weird though. Also, just as a matter of taste I always saw lings built more like wolves than what you have done. But artistic license and all that jazz, also I couldn't pull this off to save my life so kudos to you and I hope you make more. Ah! one more thing: I think the zealot psi blades could be a bit longer/ larger. | ||
MinoMino
Norway1103 Posts
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Clearout
Norway1060 Posts
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cHicKeLoR
Germany559 Posts
love the mutalisk ![]() sadly I cannot afford it.. but i guess is reasonable priced. | ||
goswser
United States3525 Posts
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Spasticdan
United States3 Posts
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NeoLearner
Belgium1847 Posts
How do you make something like that and how long does 1 take, rough guesstimate wise? On November 22 2010 07:49 cnotbusch wrote: that is a fabulous idea i have thought of using these as trophy's for competitions if anyone wants to help plan that i would be game! Sound like a good idea! There are a lot of tournaments out there... You should make a TL pony ![]() | ||
FetTerBender
Germany1393 Posts
Great Job, that is real art! | ||
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Wunder
United Kingdom2950 Posts
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Omitson
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shinwa
Sweden225 Posts
That is so badass! | ||
Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
//tx | ||
Thrill
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SoJu.WeRRa
Korea (South)820 Posts
What a great work! Congrats! | ||
emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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Crais
Canada2136 Posts
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Lowko
Netherlands286 Posts
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Starfox
Austria699 Posts
awesome, wow | ||
cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
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canSore
132 Posts
j/k, these are absolutely fabulous! I love the baneling. great work | ||
ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
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Cedwyn
Canada58 Posts
Hopefully you make some good money selling those and are inspired to make more, and ofcourse show us ![]() | ||
Scorcher2k
United States802 Posts
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
On November 22 2010 07:49 cnotbusch wrote: that is a fabulous idea i have thought of using these as trophy's for competitions if anyone wants to help plan that i would be game! You should get in touch with HD ,he is going to organise a tournament soon ,it could get you some nice exposure. By the way : amazing work , how much time do you spend to make one of these? I | ||
JBanKs
United Kingdom617 Posts
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lurked
Canada918 Posts
I'll have to take a look at your website, when I a few spare bucks! | ||
CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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FenneK
France1231 Posts
MORE! | ||
Il1idan
Canada95 Posts
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de1irium
United States121 Posts
On November 22 2010 03:16 Skvid wrote: The quality of these sculptures got me thinking.... What if some game developer made the game models by sculpting and 3d scanning them, instead of modeling them in 3d. After that everything would be done normally (adding skeleton, animating the model etc) I think it would create quite an interesting graphics style... if textured properly. This is not uncommon in movie CGI, and I'm sure there are big game studios who have done this as well | ||
Electric.Jesus
Germany755 Posts
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DND_Enkil
Sweden598 Posts
Just note that they are a pretty clear copyright violation. If they, meaning Blizz, cares or not i cant say since it is an artist doing rather high-end work and selling them on a small scale. But I know that painters have been slapped down pretty hard for paintings featuring copyrighted figures, for example disney, and selling them. Heve a look here: http://painting.about.com/od/copyrightforartistsfaq/f/CopyrightFilms.htm http://painting.about.com/od/copyrightforartistsfaq/f/CopyrightFilm2.htm Still, awesome work just wanted to give you a heads up so you know what you are doing =) | ||
Munk-E
United States672 Posts
Zeratul doesn't quite look like himself, a little too short. Raynor looks good, and I like the fact that the his mask comes off, except the fact that his head doesn't look right. Kerrigan is just plain disturbing... Zealot is the best though, | ||
nehl
Germany270 Posts
nice job! | ||
Parabola
Korea (South)111 Posts
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theBullFrog
United States515 Posts
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junemermaid
United States981 Posts
prices are a bit steep though ![]() | ||
Sarsaparilla
United States12 Posts
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eKe
Canada60 Posts
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Patat0r
France142 Posts
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GreatFall
United States1061 Posts
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EdSlyB
Portugal1621 Posts
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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yoplate
United States332 Posts
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RogueStatus
266 Posts
How long do these take you to make? Just out of curiosity. | ||
Cold-Blood
United States200 Posts
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Cow
Canada1104 Posts
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leeznon
United States255 Posts
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GladiatorSMR
Canada66 Posts
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RawK
United States125 Posts
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pieisamazing
United States1234 Posts
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Raine
Canada210 Posts
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
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IntoTheBush
United States552 Posts
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Grend
1600 Posts
MOD EDIT: Possibly NSFW + Show Spoiler + http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y149/Gilsio/QoB.jpg User was warned for this post | ||
Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
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Usurper
Macedonia283 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
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EliteReplay
Dominican Republic913 Posts
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Trinton07
United States70 Posts
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
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waterglen
United States103 Posts
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RotterdaM
Netherlands684 Posts
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rally_point
Canada458 Posts
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
You don't know how much I want that zealot. | ||
HydroXy
United States513 Posts
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Danze
Australia219 Posts
jk Really, really quality stuff mate. How long on average do they take you to make? | ||
Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
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Ridiculisk
Australia191 Posts
Srsly, I want to buy that Zergling Model.... Do you sell them? If not, could I commission the construction of one. I will pay you moneys!!!! | ||
Artosis
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United States2140 Posts
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biskit
Australia355 Posts
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vinn
Australia112 Posts
lol at people saying the prices are steep ![]() | ||
hitman133
United States1425 Posts
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Xerros
United States39 Posts
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Zerglinguist
United States55 Posts
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
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ZerOfy
United Kingdom405 Posts
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Meiya
Australia1169 Posts
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
I'd buy one if I had any money | ||
Spartan
United States2030 Posts
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Contagious
United States1319 Posts
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
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Eduro
United States88 Posts
If the work is of a great caliber like this then the photos should showcase the best they can. | ||
MrWinkles
United States200 Posts
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Pharax
Canada62 Posts
Blizzard should hire you. | ||
linksysKOW
21 Posts
good sculptures and skill | ||
Shuray
Brazil642 Posts
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
![]() + Show Spoiler + jk these are good stuff + Show Spoiler + trust me.. if i could poop amazing sculptures, you would definitely see the "scented uberlisk" on ebay. | ||
KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
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kirkybaby
Korea (South)781 Posts
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Rain-
Australia13 Posts
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Pull
United States308 Posts
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RogerRus
Norway87 Posts
The zergling and muta looks soooo great! | ||
MavenSC
United Kingdom76 Posts
I'm sure you could make a decent amount from these, although money aside you really should be proud of your work, so much detail. | ||
BlinkNudie
Malaysia49 Posts
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
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TheRoadrunner
Germany7 Posts
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N0cturnal
United Kingdom40 Posts
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NIIINO
Slovakia1320 Posts
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bbsss
Netherlands163 Posts
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cnotbusch
United States133 Posts
DND_enkil- yea i know the dangers im just hoping nothing comes of it ![]() sarsaparilla- ill look into that for you but i havent had any complaints thus far about it ![]() ![]() Rougestatus- for me it takes about 10 hours of good work time to finish one thats with loads of practice and years of sculpting under my belt ![]() Grend the QoB sculpt was a custom order as you see its not really my style ![]() Usurpur at the time i couldn't think of a way to make them and still have it look cool so i thought it would be best just leave them out at the time however i found a good plastic technique for future projects as you see in the recent zealot ![]() vinn- i price the lowest i can go without losing my place ![]() ![]() xerros yea sometimes i throw items in there for scale purposes and yes i know i am a very bad photographer i am in the process of hiring a photographer to shoot my next ones for me ![]() TheRoadrunner- it is a polymer clay called supersculpey and they are painted with acrylic paints ![]() | ||
Kyhol
Canada2574 Posts
I think you should host a tournament and the winner gets one of those. That would be the greatest tournament! | ||
-CheekyDuck-
Australia398 Posts
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Kyhol
Canada2574 Posts
[Mod edit: please don't post picture gifs like this] AKA you just blew my f'in mind. | ||
Fitzhunt1
United States169 Posts
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Lil.Sassy
United States54 Posts
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AJMcSpiffy
United States1154 Posts
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DROPPINBOMBS
United States312 Posts
On November 21 2010 22:44 Bensio wrote: wow, great work, unfortunately the price is way too high for me to ever get one ![]() Pay for quality! Yeah man these are fucking sweet. I love the lings | ||
Champi
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1-LeeteR
United States78 Posts
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veoVeo
New Zealand8 Posts
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Mr_Kzimir
France268 Posts
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SageFantasma
United States383 Posts
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keNNabis
Canada159 Posts
i want the whole set O_O | ||
AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
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EliteGaming
Dominican Republic97 Posts
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HeadhunteR
Argentina1258 Posts
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bech
Denmark162 Posts
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RoarMan
Canada745 Posts
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pinkranger15
Philippines1597 Posts
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Penke
Sweden346 Posts
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Thor-axe the Impaler
United States331 Posts
On November 26 2010 08:35 Khol wrote: I'm more than impressed. I think you should host a tournament and the winner gets one of those. That would be the greatest tournament! This. Would. Be. Awesome. It would be cool if people liked it enough to get it to be a regularly popular tournament cuz it would get you lots of attention. | ||
Flatwound
United States14 Posts
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
make lifesized sculptures for celebrity parties or w.e like, theres always a rich fucker looking for shit for his themed party, and you cna make just about anything apparently, so try it out. unless im talking for nothing and that is already in progress. | ||
ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On November 30 2010 08:22 wishbones wrote: these are sooo fucking unreal bro, i would honestly recommend yuo get a huge ass loan and start making popular sculptures for billionair companies or something that suitable. make millions being an artist, not 50 bucks off of the internett cmon be greedy or stay broke, you gotta be greedy(aka cant take no for an answer, push hard, be an ass to get rich). after you get rich you can be nice again tho. <3 haha make lifesized sculptures for celebrity parties or w.e like, theres always a rich fucker looking for shit for his themed party, and you cna make just about anything apparently, so try it out. unless im talking for nothing and that is already in progress. he's never gonna get rich doing that, he could possibly make a decent living, but get rich? unless he starts teaching people how to make these sculptures and he gets money from their sculptures there's no way he can make millions on topic though the sculptures are pretty fuckin awesome | ||
cnotbusch
United States133 Posts
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
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cnotbusch
United States133 Posts
On December 01 2010 06:37 dudeman001 wrote: i only dream of it on a nightly basis i just dont know if there interested i might submit a applicationHoly check these are beautiful. Makes me wish I had some kind of artistic ability lol. You have any desire to work for Blizzard? Because I bet they'd love you :D | ||
VienteOchoHD
United States1 Post
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sage_francis
France1823 Posts
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VTArlock
United States1763 Posts
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kawoq
Guatemala357 Posts
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cnotbusch
United States133 Posts
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Freeheals
United States488 Posts
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xLethargicax
United States469 Posts
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VladCepesh
Serbia12 Posts
and how did blizz contact you? with their lawyer? o.0 | ||
osten
Sweden316 Posts
Still they continue to do things like this. I would accept some of it since they are large but lately it seems they are going down the greedy path and soon nobody will be fans of blizzard. Like really, to watch your OWN expo where you showcase your products we should pay? Really, you want to downgrade battle.net so that you hae more control. Really these are good choices??? Where is your intelligent marketing experts? Where is the boss, what is he saying to make these things go through? Idiots really. | ||
Artistic
Netherlands34 Posts
On December 06 2010 17:40 osten wrote: The sad thing is they lose customers, revenue, reputation, money, competency, respect and more. Still they continue to do things like this. I would accept some of it since they are large but lately it seems they are going down the greedy path and soon nobody will be fans of blizzard. Like really, to watch your OWN expo where you showcase your products we should pay? Really, you want to downgrade battle.net so that you hae more control. Really these are good choices??? Where is your intelligent marketing experts? Where is the boss, what is he saying to make these things go through? Idiots really. Dude, the OP is not just making sculptures and showing them to us, he is selling them. Of course you need a license if you want to make a profit of Blizzard's IP... it's not idiocy, it's how the world works. I'm sure that if the OP was just sharing the pictures with us and not offering them for sale, Blizzard wouldn't care. I also don't see what Blizzcon has to do with this. | ||
Creegz
Canada354 Posts
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
On December 06 2010 18:01 Creegz wrote: See, Artistic is totally right. If he were sharing, or giving them away for tournaments or just out of drawings, that's fine, but profit means they are not getting paid for their intellectual property (IP). I understand the rules they put forth here, but the OP put a lot of his own free time into making those things and giving them away would effectively be a waste of his time. Where is the motivation to create these sculptures if he could be spending his time doing other things, making money in other ways or playing video games? Blizzard just doesn't want anybody to have monetary incentive to create completely artistic expressions based on their intellectual property. They are effectively saying "Don't spend your time showing passion for our games in completely artistic ways unless you're going to keep it to yourself or give it away for free." I could understand if he was selling bootleg copies of their games, you know, the stuff they created that actually has any value. But this is just harmless. ![]() I don't particularly care either way, I just wish the OP would re-upload those images because I never got to see them. | ||
Goobus
Hong Kong587 Posts
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us.insurgency
United States330 Posts
On December 06 2010 18:10 Meta wrote: I understand the rules they put forth here, but the OP put a lot of his own free time into making those things and giving them away would effectively be a waste of his time. Where is the motivation to create these sculptures if he could be spending his time doing other things, making money in other ways or playing video games? Blizzard just doesn't want anybody to have monetary incentive to create completely artistic expressions based on their intellectual property. They are effectively saying "Don't spend your time showing passion for our games in completely artistic ways unless you're going to keep it to yourself or give it away for free." I could understand if he was selling bootleg copies of their games, you know, the stuff they created that actually has any value. But this is just harmless. ![]() I don't particularly care either way, I just wish the OP would re-upload those images because I never got to see them. Its the law. He is using their idea to make money. He would have to pay to use their idea. | ||
osten
Sweden316 Posts
On December 06 2010 17:48 Artistic wrote: Dude, the OP is not just making sculptures and showing them to us, he is selling them. Of course you need a license if you want to make a profit of Blizzard's IP... it's not idiocy, it's how the world works. I'm sure that if the OP was just sharing the pictures with us and not offering them for sale, Blizzard wouldn't care. I also don't see what Blizzcon has to do with this. It's not how the world works, it's really completely stupid that he should have to pay them, they have almost infinite amounts of money and you think it's really nice that they sue this guy that actually mostly makes adertisements for them and because he likes their stuff. If you really belive that you are evil in the core, but I really don't belive that you do. There is no point in protecting this IP or stopping people from making stuff from this IP it's like saying you can't make smurf statues except more greedy and evil. And nope, it's not the law. They don't have to be complete greedy asshole bastards. No law for that. | ||
NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
seriously though, wtf blizzard, wtf. | ||
Barett
Canada454 Posts
The guy is a artist and loves Starcraft 2. Not like he is going to make alot of money off of these sculptures. I don't see the big issue with this. If anything it does good for Blizzard. If thats the route they wanna go I do understand, it is a business, and it is their product. It is a shame though I think it would do more good then harm :\ | ||
MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
The principle here is that Blizzard are protecting their ideas, and good for them for doing so. Just they same way you can't make Wolverine figures without Marvel getting on your ass. The real world doesn't let you use someone elses designs and ideas to make money without approval from the creator. The law actually protects and promotes creativity since if everyone could make money off someone elses good idea, almost nobody would think for themselves anymore. Nobody is stopping him from making sculptures (which are awesome by the way), only from selling them and making dollars, since if you sell one, there's then nothing stopping you from selling more and boom you got a business going off someone elses ideas. Blizzard are saying: Fanart is cool, keep doing it, if you're going to make a business of it let us know and we'll negotiate. I presume DeviantArt gets approval from trademark owners in the print approval process. Boy are a bunch of posters here in for a surprise when the real world hits. | ||
TWIX_Heaven
Denmark169 Posts
Its the law. He is using their idea to make money. He would have to pay to use their idea.[/QUOTE] This is completely ridiculous, first of all the concept of owning an idea is completely silly, imagine going back in time and telling a carpenter that he could own the shape of the chair he made, not the chair itself, but the shape? he would think you were crazy! Second of all, "Their idea"? This concept is also awesomely bad, as the "ideas" that blizzard produce come from individual artists, and collaborate labor, blizzards owns these peoples ideas, and they get paid to produce them, but they don't own these afterward, is this unfair? of course it is! But that's how the world of copyright works right? its the law, riiiight? This guy is simply taking an idea and making it his own (kinda like how car companies all produce items derived from the idea of a car (and you cant own that right? lol)) " And while he is making money doing so (prolly not netting the exact same revenue as blizzard, but still) he is simply pushing the world of blizzard related stuff further, and this is how it should be, fan fictions, music, games, films, movies, sculptures, drawings, t-shirts, the fricking list goes on! NONE of these kind of things will ever reach masses and great potential because of IP and copyright laws, instead we have to cope with look-a-likes and copycats, that never reaches our hearts because its just not the same (this is ofc only true in some cases) and so everyone end ups trying to copy each other without breaking the law instead of pushing the ideas and originality further (everquest, wow, conan, warhammer ect - BS!!!!) This severely dampers evolution of media and breakthroughs in science (this isn't only Blizzard, far from) Since everyone thinks that "Hey they have copyright on something, and they are making money, maybe if we make something similar we will make money too!!!" instead it should be "He has a nice idea and he is making money, but i can make the idea even better -yeaaah!" My point is, that while saying, "its the law" is completely legit, doesn't mean that its not wrong, and i think everyone here defending blizzard needs to realize that Blizzard is not a single entity, its a company, and within it artists exists, these produce ideas that Blizzard makes theirs, and the pay the artists get are their salaries, but they don't own shit themselves. think about it! - thanks and sorry Rune Rask (A poor soul in the world of the film industry) | ||
MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
It does not dampen progress and absolutely does not hurt science. Why would I invest billions into crafting a lore filled world, curing cancer, or designing anything kickass when someone is going to copy my stuff once I get something that works and you would be billions into the red? I'm baffled how you blame a world of copy cats on IP / copyright law since without it you would have a world of copycats with nothing changed. And afaik you're only prevented from selling / profiting from selling stuff. You can post all the fan art / fan fic / make your own T-shirt / SC2 related music / movie as long as you don't make dollars from it, and if you do wanna make dollars, then you make a deal with Blizzard (or whoever the IP owner is) so you both make dollars. Copyright law does not stop "He has a nice idea and he is making money, but i can make the idea even better -yeaaah!" e.g. HTC post Apple, ATI vs Nvidia, F1 car design, medical therapy, pens. The original creator is sometimes entitled to a cut depending on how much of his tech is reused. It does stop "He has a nice idea and he is making money, but i can make the THE SAME FUCKING THING and make money too -yeaaah!", it does not stop "He has a nice idea and he is making money, but i can make the same thing relevant to a new market, we can both make dollars if we expand - yeaaah!". The sculpure thing is the latter to me, and in random news DC Unlimited have their own Starcraft figurines in the works. Think about it. | ||
StrangeOne
United States4 Posts
And the argument that Blizzard didnt make it, the artists did is ludicrous. The artists of blizzard are on a contract on which artwork created during the tenure of their employment for their contractual payment is property of Blizzard Entertainment. Blizzard paid ALOT of money to have these created, as the post above mentions. and they should rightfully be the ones making the money from these IPs. Having art stolen sucks. Having resold is worse. The OP does good work in his craft, but he is thief and should not profit, nor be made a martyrn from his amoral choices. | ||
TWIX_Heaven
Denmark169 Posts
Think about this example : I go about drawing a little creature thats mostly green, has big horns and i describe how it swallows people in whole - now the drawings are very specific and the description too. By means of copyright i now own this exact idea, however general and odd it may seem (because the exact way that it was thought out was mine and mine alone, without of any inspiration, others ideas or any sort of that). So now i own this design right? Imagine you looking at this design and thinking, i wonder how this guy would look like in my movie, only purple? Too me this is a great way of quickly sharing and developing ideas to benefit the whole community, not the individual "thinker" or "creative person" perhaps, but it certainly helps move ideas and thought along quickly, and in the end perhaps benefiting the original creator (if he develops new ideas based on the derivation or gets credited somehow for what he did) things would move along a lot quicker. The problem the way you see it is, that if copyright didn't exist everyone would make the same things and never develop? well if anybody could make a coca-cola and put a coca-cola logo on it, the "name" coca-cola would loose its value rapidly, and only quality,price, taste, service and treatment of the customer would remain, thus rendering the superior product in these categories the most attractive - thereby giving the consumer a more relevant choice ALL the time and companies would be driven to become better in these categories in order to stay competitive - thus evolving the market, not stalemating it. Its the same everywhere, instead of continuing to become better, we try to copy whats already a success in a copyright sense but also in a general sense, since that is whats making money. But... this is silly you say, if we cannot copy each other due to copyright, we are bound to come up with better solutions and original ideas, well this is flawed because we can ONLY become relevant by either coming up with an entire new idea or be better at marketing the product that is very similar but not the same, since the intellectual property is already locked down, we cannot not build upon it, we can only take limited inspiration from it ( which usually means making a copycat that only differs in a law-suite based discussion). The problem that is relevant at hand is the distribution form and not the ideas, especially for game makers and musicians and the film industry. Since their product is not a hammer in a store, they have to find ways to make sure that, people have to pay to get their "hammer" somehow, and they resolve this by copyright, and fails most times i might add. Now blizzard made the smart choice of an online service with SC fx. and so they ensure, that anyone who wants to play on Bnet, needs to have paid for the game. So returning to my original point, Blizzard made a game, they made sure that you can only play it online if you paid for it and that you loose rights to any thing creative ideas you bring with you online (custom maps fx) - and so costumer service, quality, price and other relevant topics play a huge role suddenly, if i where to make an exact copy of SC2 and have people pay to play it, i would prolly fail, since everyone and their grandma is playing on Bnet, i have a crappy team, so the balancing sucks, theres never any updates and the servers are down all the time and so Blizzard most likely wins in the end, BUT if for some reason i did all the above better than Blizzard, people would play MY game and thus advancing the game in a positive and competitive manner. Resulting in lots of "SC2" games where the name "SC2" is irrelevant, and only the quality of the game is relevant. Blizzard only looses if they fail at this, which they currently do not. I hope you will think a bit about what i said and not flame me for it, after all it is just my opinion. Rune Rask | ||
SuperNothing
United States76 Posts
Here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=intellectual property | ||
StrangeOne
United States4 Posts
This is a good thing, because if we for a second believe that we can create material entirely autonomously, we are doing nothing but lying to ourselves. Every time you put a pencil to paper, you are drawing from the inspired works of others. Our entire idea of what is "tasteful" or "succesful" as artwork is based on concepts and designs formerly created by others. Stand on the shoulders of genius, and expand. It is the way of progression. However, the OP is not appropriating. He is not expanding. He is not making it his own. He simply took someone else's work and replicated it. He then proceeded to take that work and generate revenue. He made money on someone else's work. | ||
StrangeOne
United States4 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
If they went on a case by case basis with no further influence on other things I am sure Blizzard too would have liked to allow this. Sad nonetheless ![]() ![]() | ||
caruso
Germany733 Posts
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On December 14 2010 00:10 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Guys please try to look at it from multiple perspectives. The way Blizzard thinks is that if they allow this then the next person who does it but sells 5 items instead of 1 will refer to this and say why did you allow it there. If they allow that guy then the next person will be selling 20 and refer to the person selling 5. In the end a clear rule such as you are not allowed to make profit off their design does make sense when you run such a large company. If they went on a case by case basis with no further influence on other things I am sure Blizzard too would have liked to allow this. Sad nonetheless ![]() ![]() Unless blizzard themselves are selling the same product... what do they care? :D | ||
GeeseHoward
United States78 Posts
On December 14 2010 01:07 Fa1nT wrote: Unless blizzard themselves are selling the same product... what do they care? :D People are not reading the thread. They care cause you're not in some sort of license agreement where you kick up money to them. Yes, we can argue about the scale and how its pointless for blizzard to even pick up their phone for the scale of production this guy is doing but you never know what can come from those exchanges. | ||
cnotbusch
United States133 Posts
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VladCepesh
Serbia12 Posts
I think this could have potential for blizz and for the community. Wow and infested husky, lol'd pretty bad. :D | ||
imyzhang
Canada809 Posts
On December 19 2010 16:07 cnotbusch wrote: yes i agree that it was wrong of me to sell these without paying some kind of loyalty to blizz. i would feel bad if somone did the same to my ideas. however i am trying to contact blizz to get a license to continue making these they just arent responding ![]() if you were gonna make sculpts full-time, why not do that, but instead of using something someone else thought of (blizzard) use your creativity and make something of your own? I'm sure if you were bent on doing this stuff for money for (x) amount of time, you shouldn't throw it all out the window. | ||
cnotbusch
United States133 Posts
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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cnotbusch
United States133 Posts
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