• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:41
CEST 08:41
KST 15:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!32Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
GSTL Returns in 2026! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
Best Games Kespa era [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5046 users

MLG extended Series Poll - Page 44

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 42 43 44 45 46 72 Next
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
October 16 2011 23:30 GMT
#861
I think we all hate this, lol.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Alvar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden61 Posts
October 16 2011 23:35 GMT
#862
On October 17 2011 08:26 Hypertension wrote:
The extended series rule is basically making the players a best of 7. In the GSL finals, when Nestea had 2-0 leads over Losira or Inca, no one asked that the series be reset to make it more entertaining.

What kind of an argument is this? It is in no way the same situation.
Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
October 16 2011 23:52 GMT
#863
On October 17 2011 08:35 Alvar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 08:26 Hypertension wrote:
The extended series rule is basically making the players a best of 7. In the GSL finals, when Nestea had 2-0 leads over Losira or Inca, no one asked that the series be reset to make it more entertaining.

What kind of an argument is this? It is in no way the same situation.


It is the same in that the better player had earned a huge advantage, thus creating a more boring series overall
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
October 16 2011 23:54 GMT
#864
On October 17 2011 08:52 Hypertension wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 08:35 Alvar wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:26 Hypertension wrote:
The extended series rule is basically making the players a best of 7. In the GSL finals, when Nestea had 2-0 leads over Losira or Inca, no one asked that the series be reset to make it more entertaining.

What kind of an argument is this? It is in no way the same situation.


It is the same in that the better player had earned a huge advantage, thus creating a more boring series overall


Except for the fact that it's a totally different situation.
Pinski
Profile Joined September 2010
United States126 Posts
October 16 2011 23:55 GMT
#865
On October 17 2011 08:22 grigorin wrote:
Can't wait till someday the one from the upper bracket is down 0:2 or 1:2 in the grand-finals because of extended series.


I'd love that to happen.
Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
October 16 2011 23:57 GMT
#866
On October 17 2011 08:54 BuddhaMonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 08:52 Hypertension wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:35 Alvar wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:26 Hypertension wrote:
The extended series rule is basically making the players a best of 7. In the GSL finals, when Nestea had 2-0 leads over Losira or Inca, no one asked that the series be reset to make it more entertaining.

What kind of an argument is this? It is in no way the same situation.


It is the same in that the better player had earned a huge advantage, thus creating a more boring series overall


Except for the fact that it's a totally different situation.


Ok, I said how they are similar. Why don't you tell me the difference?
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
October 16 2011 23:59 GMT
#867
Extended series is fucking stupid, and bo3 finals is fucking stupid.

These are objectively factual statements.
Supporting TypeII Gaming - www.typeii.net - TypeReaL, TypePhoeNix, TypeSuN, TypeDBS!!
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
October 17 2011 00:00 GMT
#868
On October 17 2011 08:57 Hypertension wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 08:54 BuddhaMonk wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:52 Hypertension wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:35 Alvar wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:26 Hypertension wrote:
The extended series rule is basically making the players a best of 7. In the GSL finals, when Nestea had 2-0 leads over Losira or Inca, no one asked that the series be reset to make it more entertaining.

What kind of an argument is this? It is in no way the same situation.


It is the same in that the better player had earned a huge advantage, thus creating a more boring series overall


Except for the fact that it's a totally different situation.


Ok, I said how they are similar. Why don't you tell me the difference?


Because the 2-0 lead was in the same series, as part of the finals, and not a leftover from a previous series.
Supporting TypeII Gaming - www.typeii.net - TypeReaL, TypePhoeNix, TypeSuN, TypeDBS!!
Nadir
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia114 Posts
October 17 2011 00:02 GMT
#869
Also GSL is not a double elimination format tournament, so there is no winners or losers bracket.
TLOwnage Victim :D
Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
October 17 2011 00:03 GMT
#870
On October 17 2011 09:00 Dhalphir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 08:57 Hypertension wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:54 BuddhaMonk wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:52 Hypertension wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:35 Alvar wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:26 Hypertension wrote:
The extended series rule is basically making the players a best of 7. In the GSL finals, when Nestea had 2-0 leads over Losira or Inca, no one asked that the series be reset to make it more entertaining.

What kind of an argument is this? It is in no way the same situation.


It is the same in that the better player had earned a huge advantage, thus creating a more boring series overall


Except for the fact that it's a totally different situation.


Ok, I said how they are similar. Why don't you tell me the difference?


Because the 2-0 lead was in the same series, as part of the finals, and not a leftover from a previous series.


But the whole point of the extended series is that the finals is an extension of the previous series, not 2 separate series.
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
October 17 2011 00:05 GMT
#871
On October 17 2011 08:57 Hypertension wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 08:54 BuddhaMonk wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:52 Hypertension wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:35 Alvar wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:26 Hypertension wrote:
The extended series rule is basically making the players a best of 7. In the GSL finals, when Nestea had 2-0 leads over Losira or Inca, no one asked that the series be reset to make it more entertaining.

What kind of an argument is this? It is in no way the same situation.


It is the same in that the better player had earned a huge advantage, thus creating a more boring series overall


Except for the fact that it's a totally different situation.


Ok, I said how they are similar. Why don't you tell me the difference?


This thread is littered with the differences, but one is a player who wins and does well in pool play gets an inherent advantage based on his seeding in the championship bracket, yet for some reason, due to the extended series he gets an additional advantage if he meets a player he beat in pool play. How come that player gets to play fewer games, is slotted higher up in the championship bracket and also gets the extended series? There's more than one advantage there. Totally different than your example.
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
October 17 2011 00:05 GMT
#872
Hasn't MLG said that next year, they'll have a new system in place?
Quote?
Chewie
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark708 Posts
October 17 2011 00:07 GMT
#873
From a spectators point of view, I dont like extended series. It feels wrong going into a series on a new day that has results from games you havent seen. The match is less exciting if its skewed from the start.

From a players perspective I can understand why you would think its more fair. Because your previous encounters matter in the long term. It means that working hard pays off. That must be the feelings of the player?

However... The notion that a prior match in a tourney should count in a later match is totally arbitrary to me. The goal with extended series seems to be that the player who has performed the best in a prior match with the same opponent, should be rewarded. In the name of fairness, we extend any future matchups into one long series. Because the goal of the tourney is to find the best player.

You can easily extend this line of thought. Why is this limited only to the matches between the two players? Player A has performed exceptionally well in the pool, 3-0ing everybody but player B. Player B is being dominated in the pool. Even though they havent met, we can infer that Player A is better than Player B. So shouldnt Player A be rewarded an advantage in their matchup? There are all kinds of ways we can determine the skill of a player, which we could add through point systems and what not, to try to be sure the winner is fairly determined. Truely we should adjust for game balance as well? Is it fair to play protoss in a tourney atm?

Hell, why is the extended series limited to the current tourney only? Its just as fair however long you extend the series. Just be simple about it imo. Either the match is finished, or its not. I think limiting the series to just the one sit down, focuses the competition for the viewers and the players. And it removes a lot of other factors... like player X was tired before, but now he is rested. Where is fairness in that? Player X is much better at adapting to a new opponent, but he needs a day to diggest the things he learned from the last match. Whats fair here? Who ever rests well and prepares the best for the match, and performes best in the moment, should and will gain a natural advantage. Its the one match. Its that moment now. That moment where there is no turning back. Everything is on the line now. Now all your training, and all your hard work, and all your experience, and all of your heart will be tested by fire. You go for it. And we all cheer you on. Thats what sport is imo.

What other sports use extended series? I cant think of any off the top of my head.
Alvar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden61 Posts
October 17 2011 00:08 GMT
#874
On October 17 2011 09:03 Hypertension wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 09:00 Dhalphir wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:57 Hypertension wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:54 BuddhaMonk wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:52 Hypertension wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:35 Alvar wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:26 Hypertension wrote:
The extended series rule is basically making the players a best of 7. In the GSL finals, when Nestea had 2-0 leads over Losira or Inca, no one asked that the series be reset to make it more entertaining.

What kind of an argument is this? It is in no way the same situation.


It is the same in that the better player had earned a huge advantage, thus creating a more boring series overall


Except for the fact that it's a totally different situation.


Ok, I said how they are similar. Why don't you tell me the difference?


Because the 2-0 lead was in the same series, as part of the finals, and not a leftover from a previous series.


But the whole point of the extended series is that the finals is an extension of the previous series, not 2 separate series.

It is first of all not only used in the final. And extended series removes the ability for one poor sucker to even get to use the advantages of a looser bracket, while everyone else that does not face the same person that eliminated them from winners or pool gets to use the ability to loose twice in the tournament.

Also the hilarity of what some people above suggests. What if Hero had advanced to the final facing huk.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
October 17 2011 00:10 GMT
#875
On October 17 2011 08:11 hmunkey wrote:
Honestly I prefer extended series in MLG simply because all the games are played so close together. If MLG was held over the course of several weeks, there wouldn't really be any reasonable way to support extended series. However, because parts 1 and 2 of matches can all be held on the same day it is undeniably unfair to ignore a players previous wins against the same player only a few hours ago.

They're not ignoring player's previous wins. Winning allowed them to be placed further in the bracket. Just look at the bracket for Idra vs Boxer for example. Boxer had to beat Stephanos and Sase to reach the same point as Idra. That is two chances of getting elminated for Boxer while Idra gets 0. Therefore, the wins essentially gave Idra free BYES in the bracket; less chance of getting eliminated and less stamina draining.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
October 17 2011 00:12 GMT
#876
if someone who finished say 4th or 5th in the group but beat the group winner made it all the way to the finals and played the groupwinner (who won the winners bracket) would they start with an advantage? That would be pretty hillarious.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Loodah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
335 Posts
October 17 2011 00:12 GMT
#877
It's a terrible rule, and it's way dated.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 00:16:25
October 17 2011 00:13 GMT
#878
On October 17 2011 08:52 Hypertension wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 08:35 Alvar wrote:
On October 17 2011 08:26 Hypertension wrote:
The extended series rule is basically making the players a best of 7. In the GSL finals, when Nestea had 2-0 leads over Losira or Inca, no one asked that the series be reset to make it more entertaining.

What kind of an argument is this? It is in no way the same situation.


It is the same in that the better player had earned a huge advantage, thus creating a more boring series overall

No, your GSL bo7 comparison would be more accurate like this:
Nestea is up 2-0 against Losira, then they make Losira play (and must win) a Bo3 from each of the two semi finalists (forgot who it was at that time) before continuing this bo7 against Nestea. This is essentially what MLG is doing. Boxer had to play Stephano and Sase before reaching Idra while Idra sat there just waiting.

Still sounds fair?
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 17 2011 00:16 GMT
#879
On October 17 2011 08:30 KimJongChill wrote:
I think we all hate this, lol.

Pretty much This isn't Halo. If it was like Halo it would work fine, but its not. Sigh.
Jaedong.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 17 2011 00:17 GMT
#880
Is this necessary for every time MLG is going on? I'm pretty sure they know the majority doesn't like it. They are comfortable with there format and are not going to change it. I'm personally fine with the rule as the person from the winners bracket deserves some sort of advantage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Prev 1 42 43 44 45 46 72 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech73
Has 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 4321
Leta 383
Bale 82
sorry 47
Noble 22
Dota 2
The International44456
Fuzer 359
NeuroSwarm165
League of Legends
JimRising 745
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King106
Other Games
summit1g5517
WinterStarcraft483
C9.Mang0332
ROOTCatZ65
Trikslyr20
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick678
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH327
• Hupsaiya 115
• practicex 21
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1346
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
3h 19m
PiG Sty Festival
5h 19m
herO vs Krystianer
Solar vs Cure
IPSL
9h 19m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 3h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 5h
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
IPSL
1d 9h
OSC
1d 17h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
The Patches Monday
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.