Boxer: might go random if Terran gets nerfed again. - Page 8

On October 30 2010 16:16 pieisamazing wrote:
Maybe boxer should learn to adapt like all the zergs did when their race was [is] the weakest and most mechanically difficult to succeed with.

On October 30 2010 17:27 Kyuki wrote:
How can people not see potential in the Terran race?

On October 30 2010 17:45 StarcraftMan wrote:


Good grief. Are you saying that you can see the potential of the Terran race better than Boxer? The same Boxer who saw the potential of the Terran race in BW?

So if Boxer claims there are issues with the Terran race in SC2, cool your head, relax, and take some time to think about Boxer's meaning because there may be a deeper meaning to Boxer's words than you or I realize at first sight.

On October 30 2010 17:27 Kyuki wrote:


Paying attention is one thing - but jumping the bandwagon SO FAST is so sad I can't belive it. I love BoxeR, but when people think that he has the deepest insight in the game atm they're way off. He hasnt even played the game long enough to see what has happend during the course of patches. The crying he's doing is very similar to how Fruitdealer was crying and the small changes that were made to reaper build time and bunker build time had absolutly NOTHING to do with how zergs started to just handle 5RR _BEFORE_ the range buff to roaches.

BoxeR was also the person mind you that play Toss to begin with and changed race because the bloody shuttle got a speed nerf, clearly he can jump the train if he sees other potentials - and this is why I get so confused. How can people not see potential in the Terran race?

T_T

On October 30 2010 17:27 Kyuki wrote:
How can people not see potential in the Terran race?

On October 30 2010 14:41 Insanious wrote:
I think that the big problem was that Zerg was UP compared to the other races.

This meant that the Z players had to play harder in order to compete vs T and P. So, they explored more parts of their races, and Z learned to deflect early harass with relative success.

Then came the latest patch. What happens? Now Z who has been working so hard to learn to survive vs early game anything has a little less to worry about. They have to cover less based, but their "defend with as little resource loss" skills have carried over. Now Z has learned the best ways to defend vs early game pressure but now with slower early game pressure (zealot time nerf, supply before rax, etc...) Z can now has a more consistent macro + defense pattern than before (where they had to worry about stupidly fast 2 gates and reaper rushes).

Now T and P have to adapt to not being able to bust in so early. Z changed their tactics very little... went from prepare for cheese -> scouted no cheese plays. T and P have to change the way they play all together as parts of their games were removed.

Z has been practicing this style of play since the game came out... T and P are just evolving. Now that Z, T, and P are relatively equal (T needs a small late game buff) Z has their strat ironed out and T and P are still trying to figure stuff out.

In time, T and P will learn a more optimal way of play, just currently we haven't seen is as there's been too little time.

I think Z is just a little more refined and evolved play as Z had to play that way due to being UP, T and P are catching up but really wont take long for them to figure out the new way to play, the new timings, and everything will be A OK once again.