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xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 20:50:22
October 22 2010 07:05 GMT
#1
From: "It will be revealed tomorrow in BlizzCon, that there will be a new "Grand Master League", a step above the Diamond League. It's going to be the league for the pros, where only top 2% of Diamond League, or top 100 overall, or something like that will be playing at." source

I'm curious to know what people think about this, do you think it will have a positive effect on the current system, do you think it'll be significant? It seems like this is the kind of thing a lot of you kids have been wanting to see recently.


EDIT: According to the blizzcon livestream theres 2 new leagues coming, "Master League" top 5% diamond, "Grand Master League" top 200
Meh.
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
October 22 2010 07:08 GMT
#2
It's a cover for the rainbow league, highest of all leagues.
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KnowMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany228 Posts
October 22 2010 07:08 GMT
#3
its pretty sad considering that i just lost 150 points within 2 days to zergs
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HaGuN
Profile Joined April 2010
United States154 Posts
October 22 2010 07:08 GMT
#4
for a second there i thought this meant good manner instead of grand master, but this is awsome nonetheless a title of grand master is very fitting to very high level players. ^^
"Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff."-BoxeR
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 07:15:13
October 22 2010 07:10 GMT
#5
If it works like the other leagues work now, nothing's going to change gameplay wise. So frankly, I couldn't care less. Suppose the "I'm a X rated diamond player, so I'm right" threads/posts will stop popping up.

Found it more interesting that not even Blizzard employees can play on the Korean servers. Oh and the name is hilarious.

"What league are you in? I just reached platinum myself."
"I'm in diamond"

vs

"What league are you in? I just reached plat.. been gold for too long"
"I'm in GRAND MASTER LEAGUE"

It's like a Korean decided it, similar to IntoTheRainbows new name : |
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
October 22 2010 07:10 GMT
#6
Until the leagues mean something they are just a place to get mass practice. I suspect/hope blizzard will be starting their own tourneys soon.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
October 22 2010 07:11 GMT
#7
I really hope it's top 200 instead of top 100, haha
blabberrrrr
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
October 22 2010 07:11 GMT
#8
I'm glad they're introducing it but... Grand Master league..? Seriously...?
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
October 22 2010 07:16 GMT
#9
That is pretty cool but they should really call it rainbow league.
^O^
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
October 22 2010 07:20 GMT
#10
Hmm, I don't think this league would have any meaning other than status/e-peen... the ladder system would fall apart if only players in the GM league were matched against each other -there's just not enough people. There probably will be a lot of Diamond vs. GM League matches in ladder.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 22 2010 07:22 GMT
#11
I hope to be the grand master wizard
smoorn
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland66 Posts
October 22 2010 07:24 GMT
#12
lol i wonder if it will be only for 1v1 or teamgames too
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
October 22 2010 07:24 GMT
#13
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard


Well, people already call you the Grand Wizard so I guess you're 2/3 there.
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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
October 22 2010 07:25 GMT
#14
Didn't David Kim say in the article top200 each region?
So basically what we see each week but then they'll be put in a ladder that means heavy promotions/demotions each week since the top200 change quite much at the 200 ranks.

I could be wrong though but that's how I interpreted the interview.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
VTSwu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States40 Posts
October 22 2010 07:25 GMT
#15
Grand Master is a term that comes from Chess. In Chess an ELO ranking of around 2200 qualified you as a Master. The tip top players that win prestigious tournaments and against other top players with absurd ELOs of 2700+ are listed as Grand Masters.
iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 07:26:51
October 22 2010 07:26 GMT
#16
Damnit, seriously? I was at 75th and I just said "fuck ladder" and played zerg and planetary fortress rushed myself off the entire top 200.

Well that blows.
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OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
October 22 2010 07:28 GMT
#17
High diamonds will be playing against them i believe just as high plat get to play against diamonds.
Wont change much except status like omfg this guy is crazy
i dunno lol
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
October 22 2010 07:29 GMT
#18
Will be interested to see how this pans out. I have a feeling if they promote the ladder to much and it gets "Prestigious" if the ugly side will start coming out as it did in wow and a bit in bw. Hopefully blizz leaves this as the top end and doesn't try to push the ladder to hard.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
October 22 2010 07:30 GMT
#19
More leagues is better in my opinion. If there's 2 million people in 5 different leagues, it's mad hard to get a measure of skill. But if there's 2 million people in 20 leagues, everyone gets divided around and it gets easier to see where you belong.
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Kachna
Profile Joined October 2010
134 Posts
October 22 2010 07:31 GMT
#20
Nooo dont call it rainbow league, that sounds ridiculous. Call it .. ehm .. Crystal league !!!
Macavity
Profile Joined July 2010
United States83 Posts
October 22 2010 07:31 GMT
#21
Grand Master League is such a dumb name. I preferred 'pro league' myself. Players already naturally refer to it that way now when they say, "I am in diamond, but I am nowhere near pro level."

I would hope the new league to be a more traditional ladder. No bonus pool please.

I'm not so sure I like the idea of 'invitation only'. That would make it more like an 'elite club' than anything. What will likely happen is that Blizzard will promote only willing players that can be easily exploited for E-sports revenue. And by exploit, I mean it in the full sense of the word. I can see Blizzard saying, "Relax kid. Don't go to college. Keep working your pizza delivery job. Just keep playing Starcraft 2 really well so we can keep getting revenue off your games (revenue you won't see except for a pinch because young kids are financially stupid and can be manipulated)." That is my fear of what will happen.
VTSwu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States40 Posts
October 22 2010 07:31 GMT
#22
According to the same interview they might release details on how it works tomorrow.
Borked
Profile Joined October 2010
221 Posts
October 22 2010 07:32 GMT
#23
I am grand master jewelcrafter is that works?
Thou shall not crave thy neighbor.
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
October 22 2010 07:32 GMT
#24
On October 22 2010 16:31 Kachna wrote:
Nooo dont call it rainbow league, that sounds ridiculous. Call it .. ehm .. Crystal league !!!

Erw? The OP said it's most likely going to be called grandmaster league. Even with that, rainbow league is still the best name, hands down. Very Mario-Kart
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
Gonozal
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany320 Posts
October 22 2010 07:33 GMT
#25
to be honest Rainbow league sounds a bit gay to me.. (this is NOT offensive.. i just think about the gayflag o.o)
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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
October 22 2010 07:33 GMT
#26
Well here it is.


It will be revealed tomorrow in BlizzCon, that there will be a new "Grand Master League", a step above the Diamond League. It's going to be the league for the pros, where only top 2% of Diamond League, or top 100 overall, or something like that will be playing at.

Top 100 overall or something like that and it'll be each region unless they do cross realm play for this GM League.
So might as well do the top200 rankins overall of each region which we've been seeing each week.

This will put the truly high skilled players apart from the mid/low diamonds. Gotta ladder!!! :D
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
October 22 2010 07:34 GMT
#27
im bronze
noob, im silver
lol, im gold stfu
lolwut? platinum, sup
u guys r funi, diamond here
HEY GUYS, IM IN THE GRAND MASTER LEAGUE

......
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
October 22 2010 07:35 GMT
#28
It should be called the "Go outside" league. I am reminded of finally beating Devil May Cry on Dante Must Die mode and being treated to a message by the game creator telling me I need to get out more.
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Kachna
Profile Joined October 2010
134 Posts
October 22 2010 07:36 GMT
#29
On October 22 2010 16:33 Gonozal wrote:
to be honest Rainbow league sounds a bit gay to me.. (this is NOT offensive.. i just think about the gayflag o.o)

Exactly. I have nothing against gays but i dont want to be in "gay league" when im straight. Its like if gays should be in straight league.
RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
October 22 2010 07:40 GMT
#30
On October 22 2010 16:34 Vz0 wrote:
im bronze
noob, im silver
lol, im gold stfu
lolwut? platinum, sup
u guys r funi, diamond here
HEY GUYS, IM IN THE GRAND MASTER LEAGUE

......


And yet, none of them are in the Rainbow League. Noobs. I bet they don't even know about the Legend of Zelda raves. The fairies serve as glowsticks.

Clearly they need to watch more DayJ dailies.
Droning his sorrows in massive amounts of macro
Natt
Profile Joined August 2010
France253 Posts
October 22 2010 07:40 GMT
#31
On October 22 2010 16:36 Kachna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 16:33 Gonozal wrote:
to be honest Rainbow league sounds a bit gay to me.. (this is NOT offensive.. i just think about the gayflag o.o)

Exactly. I have nothing against gays but i dont want to be in "gay league" when im straight. Its like if gays should be in straight league.


I'm not gay either, but i would find that incredibly entertaining (yeah i love irony and sarcasm).
GaussWaffle
Profile Joined May 2010
United States211 Posts
October 22 2010 07:41 GMT
#32
now just slap an "emerald" league in between diamond and the GM league for those 1400-1800 folk who play decent games but lack the certain necessities to make it into the GM league, and all will be right
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
October 22 2010 07:41 GMT
#33
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard


Well at least now tyler can double or nothing for top diamond a lot easier
Ignore my opinions I am bad
necmon
Profile Joined September 2010
194 Posts
October 22 2010 07:41 GMT
#34
I thought the same thing with the gay flag. Sorry, Rainbow league is not a good name as it implies stuff that they probably don't want to imply.

The Grand Master title is for example used in Chess for the best of the best, so that the grand master league makes sense somehow.
oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
October 22 2010 07:42 GMT
#35
My goal is now to beat a Grand Master.
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MadNote
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lesotho75 Posts
October 22 2010 07:47 GMT
#36
My question is... What will the picture for Grand Master League be? Will it be a old man's face with a long white beard? Cause that would be hilarious.
shinwa
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden225 Posts
October 22 2010 07:55 GMT
#37
Yes! The most important thing about the league is obviously the name! The fact that this is sweet news is totally irrelevant.

In all seriousness, I like the "Grand Master" thing. What I don't like is the suggestion of "Pro League" which is, to me, misleading. So either Grand Master (sounds sweet) or another type of mineral (Kryptonite league? Anyone? :D)
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
October 22 2010 07:55 GMT
#38
On October 22 2010 16:47 MadNote wrote:
My question is... What will the picture for Grand Master League be? Will it be a old man's face with a long white beard? Cause that would be hilarious.

Teamliquid horse of course.
My strategy is to fork people.
adi1133
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania109 Posts
October 22 2010 07:58 GMT
#39
"2% of Diamond League, or top 100 overall" , if its not 2% diamond league then its out of reach for most of us here.
Old School > New School
Maaku
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom142 Posts
October 22 2010 08:00 GMT
#40
On October 22 2010 16:58 adi1133 wrote:
"2% of Diamond League, or top 100 overall" , if its not 2% diamond league then its out of reach for most of us here.

Thats kinda the whole point
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 08:03:08
October 22 2010 08:01 GMT
#41
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard


me too you can be the GMW of your region and I can do it for mine. Then we can meet up and discuss how to "deal with" the various "races".
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 22 2010 08:02 GMT
#42
Pretty soon GM league will fill up and Blizzard will roll out Ultimate Nuclear Space Dragon League or something.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
October 22 2010 08:08 GMT
#43
Should've just called it ICCup.
zak
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1009 Posts
October 22 2010 08:08 GMT
#44
On October 22 2010 16:26 iEchoic wrote:
Damnit, seriously? I was at 75th and I just said "fuck ladder" and played zerg and planetary fortress rushed myself off the entire top 200.

Well that blows.



lol you can make it back up! gogogo!
You know how to gain a victory, but not use it - maharbal
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
October 22 2010 08:09 GMT
#45
On October 22 2010 17:02 Dfgj wrote:
Pretty soon GM league will fill up and Blizzard will roll out Ultimate Nuclear Space Dragon League or something.


Biggest fail with the diamond crap was that they just renamed the divisions, some people not feeling like copper was a good enough name for the lowest league apparently.
ESV Mapmaking!
erulabs
Profile Joined April 2010
United States41 Posts
October 22 2010 08:10 GMT
#46
I like the idea but 100 200 even 500 players is too small. I pop in and out of top 200 NA really often, it'll be weird if I get promoted and demoted on a weekly basis. What happens to your points in a system like that?

I think top 1000 is the smallest it should realistically be.
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zak
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1009 Posts
October 22 2010 08:11 GMT
#47
this is great news! I hope to face a grand master 300 apm player one day. I am tired of horrible diamond players with 50 apm.
You know how to gain a victory, but not use it - maharbal
Kachna
Profile Joined October 2010
134 Posts
October 22 2010 08:11 GMT
#48
On October 22 2010 17:10 erulabs wrote:
I like the idea but 100 200 even 500 players is too small. I pop in and out of top 200 NA really often, it'll be weird if I get promoted and demoted on a weekly basis. What happens to your points in a system like that?

I think top 1000 is the smallest it should realistically be.

500 Is too much maybe even 200. It would completely missed point with more then 200.
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 08:12:35
October 22 2010 08:12 GMT
#49
A "GM LEAGUE" would be the same shitfest that Diamond is, anyone can get there by cheesing their way to the desired rank.

If they are going to create another league, then only have the top 50-100 in the server on it using players hidden rating. Either that or just invite top players, those that actually play in tournaments and get far into them. (A invite only, league.)
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 22 2010 08:14 GMT
#50
On October 22 2010 17:12 KinosJourney2 wrote:
A "GM LEAGUE" would be the same shitfest that Diamond is, anyone can get there by cheesing their way to the desired rank.

If they are going to create another league, then only have the top 50-100 in the server on it using players hidden rating. Either that or just invite top players, those that actually play in tournaments and get far into them. (A invite only, league.)


If you read it it sounds like only 2% of diamond players will be in there. That is according to some posts only 850 players will be in it from each region.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
October 22 2010 08:16 GMT
#51
Oh yeah! I wish it will be named Rainbow league =D
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tubs
Profile Joined March 2010
764 Posts
October 22 2010 08:17 GMT
#52
2000 Diamond huh?

Well I'm 3rd ranked Grand Master in Mutant Muppets division. So there.
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Thunderfist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland159 Posts
October 22 2010 08:18 GMT
#53
GM League kind of makes me think of "Good Manners League" instead of "Grand Masters"
...has arrived.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
October 22 2010 08:19 GMT
#54
Man if it's 1 division of 200 people or so. Would be so stacked lolol and always changing in the lower ranks of GM league lolol.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
GoDannY
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany442 Posts
October 22 2010 08:19 GMT
#55
Uh well arent most of the divisions stacked with good players and well known names anyway (especially the early ones)? Not much of a change, isn't it? If you want to be professional - go for ladder tournaments or - most important - goddamn LAN. This GM league is just the facebook integration of the division system-
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lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
October 22 2010 08:22 GMT
#56
Top 2% is to much... im ~1700-1800 points and

from SC2 ranks im currently

#597 (1.35% of 44,313, 99th percentile)

Well within the top 2 %

Apparently there are 117,866 players in diamond in NA, 2% of that would represent ~2300 odd people... If they want this Grand master league to be someone pros would actully play.. id have to say top 1% of ladder included... max
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
October 22 2010 08:25 GMT
#57
time to mass ladder lawls
IronWolf
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
South Africa315 Posts
October 22 2010 08:26 GMT
#58
I say call it TITAN LEAGUE

hehe titanium...see what i did there
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 08:28:09
October 22 2010 08:27 GMT
#59
I think top 200 from each region would be good amount since they have been showing top 200 statistics...
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petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
October 22 2010 08:28 GMT
#60
On October 22 2010 16:26 iEchoic wrote:
Damnit, seriously? I was at 75th and I just said "fuck ladder" and played zerg and planetary fortress rushed myself off the entire top 200.

Well that blows.


its ok just keep 3 rax marine all innning every game, you'll "earn" your spot in the league eventually
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
October 22 2010 08:31 GMT
#61
Hm, thats gonna be a tough call cause if u put like the real top players in u might get the scenario where people search for games for a very long time cause of not enough players actually playing but if u put a lot of people in the top players might not really wanna play cause they dont get quality games going - probably only can be prevented by giving out prizemoney for winning etc.
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SeaSmoke
Profile Joined July 2010
United States326 Posts
October 22 2010 08:34 GMT
#62
What's the deal with this? Would it be auto promoting like the current system? Or some guy at blizzard choosing the grand masters by hand?

And saying it would be a certain number of players like 200 is weird too. Someone would have to be demoted every time someone made it in.

Anyway I have no chance of making it there just saying it'll be interested how this is implemented.
aloT
Profile Joined April 2010
England1042 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 08:36:06
October 22 2010 08:34 GMT
#63
On October 22 2010 17:22 lim1017 wrote:
Top 2% is to much... im ~1700-1800 points and

from SC2 ranks im currently

#597 (1.35% of 44,313, 99th percentile)

Well within the top 2 %

Apparently there are 117,866 players in diamond in NA, 2% of that would represent ~2300 odd people... If they want this Grand master league to be someone pros would actully play.. id have to say top 1% of ladder included... max


Am I reading the article wrong? David Kim clearly says top 2% of diamond, not 2% of North America.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 22 2010 08:37 GMT
#64
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard

Sounds like a Neo-Buddhism rank.
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Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 08:44:28
October 22 2010 08:37 GMT
#65
On October 22 2010 17:22 lim1017 wrote:
Top 2% is to much... im ~1700-1800 points and

from SC2 ranks im currently

#597 (1.35% of 44,313, 99th percentile)

Well within the top 2 %

Apparently there are 117,866 players in diamond in NA, 2% of that would represent ~2300 odd people... If they want this Grand master league to be someone pros would actully play.. id have to say top 1% of ladder included... max


r u serious dude -.-

1v1 Diamond NA Players (44,270)
http://sc2ranks.com/stats/league/us/1/all/

Top 2% OF 1v1 Diamond NA Players (885.4)


885.4 is pretty damn exclusive in my book.

Consider this.

Bronze (229,149 players)
Silver (103,591 players)
Gold (104,155 players)
Platinum (83,798 players)
Diamond (44,270 players)
Grand Master (885 players)

Notice how they are all well into the thousands where as GM is not even at a thousand?

When you look at the whole scheme of things that IS pretty damn high elite.

Its top2% OF the top 7.84% of the players on NA.

Which is basically top 0.1586% on NA

edit:
to give you an idea of whose part of the top 885 players

I am 1693 and I am #942
Asmo (some random guy 2ranks above me in my divison) is 1758 and hes #608

So basically GM league is for ~1700+

which seems ... okay but I wouldn't mind if it was 1800+ as 1700s could use a tad more skill.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
October 22 2010 08:43 GMT
#66
probably by naming it grandmaster, they will decide a cut off ELO instead of taking a top 1% or 2%

since ELO ( or MMR) is not inflated by bonus pool. the condition will probably be like. higher elo than 2200 , then you are in the grandmaster league.

it probably will work out to be the top 2 percent of each region anyway though.

good idea nonetheless since diamond league is becoming too common and meaningless
SeaSmoke
Profile Joined July 2010
United States326 Posts
October 22 2010 08:49 GMT
#67
On October 22 2010 17:37 Vz0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 17:22 lim1017 wrote:
Top 2% is to much... im ~1700-1800 points and

from SC2 ranks im currently

#597 (1.35% of 44,313, 99th percentile)

Well within the top 2 %

Apparently there are 117,866 players in diamond in NA, 2% of that would represent ~2300 odd people... If they want this Grand master league to be someone pros would actully play.. id have to say top 1% of ladder included... max


r u serious dude -.-

1v1 Diamond NA Players (44,270)
http://sc2ranks.com/stats/league/us/1/all/

Top 2% OF 1v1 Diamond NA Players (885.4)


885.4 is pretty damn exclusive in my book.

Consider this.

Bronze (229,149 players)
Silver (103,591 players)
Gold (104,155 players)
Platinum (83,798 players)
Diamond (44,270 players)
Grand Master (885 players)

Notice how they are all well into the thousands where as GM is not even at a thousand?

When you look at the whole scheme of things that IS pretty damn high elite.

Its top2% OF the top 7.84% of the players on NA.

Which is basically top 0.1586% on NA

edit:
to give you an idea of whose part of the top 885 players

I am 1693 and I am #942
Asmo (some random guy 2ranks above me in my divison) is 1758 and hes #608

So basically GM league is for ~1700+

which seems ... okay but I wouldn't mind if it was 1800+ as 1700s could use a tad more skill.


I'm not 100% sure but I don't think sc2ranks has everyone in its database.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 22 2010 08:51 GMT
#68
I really hope they will remove the bonus pool for this league and use a real ELO system.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
imyzhang
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada809 Posts
October 22 2010 08:52 GMT
#69
crystal/rainbow league sounds kinda gay imo... how bout the 'destroyer league'?

"Hi, i'm a 1900 diamond, how bout u?"
"I'm a destroyer"
"oh... sweet jesus..."
bleh
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
October 22 2010 08:53 GMT
#70
Well this is a pretty huge incentive to play more.
Dammit, I wanna be a GrandMaster.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
October 22 2010 08:58 GMT
#71
I think it will be great tho, but "Grand Master League" they should of taken something better like "Heavens League" <- lol or "Rainbow League" like someone already said. I think its a good idea with the top 100-200 or something. >_<
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SoLuTioN.
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden21 Posts
October 22 2010 08:58 GMT
#72
Really hope this is just for 1v1
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
October 22 2010 08:59 GMT
#73
What if the famous rapper Grand Master Flash goes pro and ends up in Grand Master League. Is he the wizard then?
I am not good with quotes
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
October 22 2010 09:04 GMT
#74
Lets hope this league is actually something that determines good players
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 22 2010 09:05 GMT
#75
On October 22 2010 18:04 WarChimp wrote:
Lets hope this league is actually something that determines good players


if they only do 2% of Diamond league I would have to say yes as thats only 850 players about out of 44,000+ in diamond :O.

We'll know more tomorrow :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
koonst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States215 Posts
October 22 2010 09:07 GMT
#76
my vote is . nova league
star
or
ultimate league.
blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
October 22 2010 09:11 GMT
#77
so basically the grand master league is where all the top players will be competing for blizzcon spots.
Speight
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia152 Posts
October 22 2010 09:12 GMT
#78
Sure make a new league, whatever, awesome.

But for the love of God please make the top league ratings not inflate/show their hidden rating.
baph
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland30 Posts
October 22 2010 09:13 GMT
#79
On October 22 2010 17:59 s.a.y wrote:
What if the famous rapper Grand Master Flash goes pro and ends up in Grand Master League. Is he the wizard then?

he's a DJ man
decemvre
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania639 Posts
October 22 2010 09:20 GMT
#80
top 100 is good ^^; I'm #83 :D

Though its probably nothing more than just a separate division. You cannot have a ladder with just 100 players.

Also while this is indeed a good idea what we all really want is GLOBAL QUALIFIERS FOR GSL AND A GLOBAL TOURNAMENT.

Why should koreans have all the fun ? Why can't we have an American Qualifier and a European Qualifier for GSL ? I mean, just 2 spots for each continent would suffice.
decemberTV
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
October 22 2010 09:26 GMT
#81
I can't wait until every poster in the SC2 forums claims they are GM league...
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DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
October 22 2010 09:35 GMT
#82
I like this alot, even tho I am miles and miles from it myself.

And I really hopes it has a "fixed" number of players, like 100 or 200 and they dont just create more divisions all the time like with diamond. One in one out is a great system for a top league. And yeah no bonus pool and a "proper" ranking system.
"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
anilusion
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden247 Posts
October 22 2010 09:38 GMT
#83
Let's call it Starleague!
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
October 22 2010 09:39 GMT
#84
I hope it will be named Copper division!
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wolfe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States761 Posts
October 22 2010 09:40 GMT
#85
If everyone doesn't like the name Grand Masters League.. how about dropping the Grand?

Masters League... badass.
Swift as the wind, felt before noticed.
Victim
Profile Joined August 2010
United States188 Posts
October 22 2010 09:47 GMT
#86
Does it really matter if there's a new league or not? From watching streams, the matchmaking system seems to often put top players against each other anyway, assuming they're both searching at the same time.
kirkybaby
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)781 Posts
October 22 2010 09:50 GMT
#87
ofn..

i'm 3300ish grand master, made it last week, i thought everyone knew about this?
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 22 2010 09:58 GMT
#88
I would´ve gone with "League of extraordinary gentlemen"
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ThirtyFive
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada31 Posts
October 22 2010 10:00 GMT
#89
It's a very good idea for everyone that makes it to that league but for me or the majority of players, it won't help us figure out our overall rank so i'm indifferent.
BishopONe
Profile Joined November 2003
Spain242 Posts
October 22 2010 10:00 GMT
#90
I like the idea of a new league though I preferred the "pro league" name. The 2% per region seems like a good number of players.
:D
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 22 2010 10:04 GMT
#91
On October 22 2010 18:40 wolfe wrote:
If everyone doesn't like the name Grand Masters League.. how about dropping the Grand?

Masters League... badass.


Agreed. Grand Masters League just sounds like some D&D nerds got together and made one up.
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Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 10:26:11
October 22 2010 10:24 GMT
#92
On October 22 2010 17:52 imyzhang wrote:
crystal/rainbow league sounds kinda gay imo... how bout the 'destroyer league'?

"Hi, i'm a 1900 diamond, how bout u?"
"I'm a destroyer"
"oh... sweet jesus..."


Dude, are you 10?

I think this is an awesome idea! Gives Nony something to conquer, because we know he can.
On October 22 2010 18:20 decemberTV wrote:
top 100 is good ^^; I'm #83 :D

Though its probably nothing more than just a separate division. You cannot have a ladder with just 100 players.

Also while this is indeed a good idea what we all really want is GLOBAL QUALIFIERS FOR GSL AND A GLOBAL TOURNAMENT.

Why should koreans have all the fun ? Why can't we have an American Qualifier and a European Qualifier for GSL ? I mean, just 2 spots for each continent would suffice.


They're doing that next year apparently, top 200 of each region invited into a tourney, then the top 4 from that tourney go into a big tourney

good luck :D
You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
October 22 2010 10:30 GMT
#93
lol why not just call it the top 100 league

straight to the point.
you gotta be top 100 to be in the top 100 league
Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
October 22 2010 10:31 GMT
#94
Seriously why did they change the name from pro league to "GRAND MASTER LEAGUE"? Maybe they are planning on doing an sc2 proleague in korea and don´t want people to confuse the names. Otherwhise I can´t find an excuse for that awful name.
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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
October 22 2010 10:35 GMT
#95
There should be a semi-pro league above diamond, and then the grand master thing. That would stop diamond from being like a huge place where the variance in skill is so big. Semi-pro would be amazing and can cause the ladder to be more serious I guess much like Iccup.
Barook
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany143 Posts
October 22 2010 10:44 GMT
#96
Rainbow League would be a fun name. As a member, you could start every game with "TASTE THE RAINBOW!".
"Blink is pretty good, it helps your Stalkers to die quicker."
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
October 22 2010 10:45 GMT
#97
please just call it pro league.

sounds more better saying your a pro leaguer
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
October 22 2010 10:51 GMT
#98
GM league? How about a BM league?
I'll call Nada.
Tears.Of.The.Moon
Profile Joined September 2009
Slovenia715 Posts
October 22 2010 11:00 GMT
#99
Sounds nice, but would be much bether if they would have 2 new leagues instead of one ;
GRAND MASTER LEAGUE (2 % of diamond players, as he said) and an extra MASTER LEAGUE ( 10% of diamond players), sorta like in chess.
ヽ(´ー`)┌
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
October 22 2010 11:00 GMT
#100
Maybe this will get the top players to play ladder again instead of practicing customs.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
October 22 2010 11:02 GMT
#101
I have it on good authority that this name, Grand Master, was picked due to a conspiracy of freemasons inside Blizzards high rankings.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 11:08:18
October 22 2010 11:07 GMT
#102
I fail to see how this is that important. I mean games were made cross league before, and they will be made cross league after that right? So players will still meet exactly the same players as before.
So it seems to be just another tag, basically just as important as achievements. Or am I missing something here?
Off-season = best season
VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
October 22 2010 11:16 GMT
#103
Diamond league comprises of the top ~5-6% of players in the world. The top 2% of that (the top .12% in the world) comes out to around the top ~1,000 players, not the top 100 O_o
Shitposting
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
October 22 2010 11:18 GMT
#104
One of my motivations to climb the ladder is so that I have a good chance at playing with the pros, with this league that seems so much further off
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
epicopter
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada177 Posts
October 22 2010 11:19 GMT
#105
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard


I thought Grack Fields was the grand master wizard?
FrayzZeUsher
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States225 Posts
October 22 2010 11:27 GMT
#106
Grand Master league is perfect name.
Celadan
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway471 Posts
October 22 2010 11:44 GMT
#107
/rant
Well im not sure if adding leagues wil change much.
What if a new guy wants to go pro but aint so good, wouldnt leagues just be demotivational?

wasnt the level system for wc3 better? less stuff to worry about?
well never liked the SC2 menus, interface, matchmaking, custom games or ranking system.
So I don't care about it - only like to play the game for the actual gameplay, not all the random gimmicks that just well, suck.

well i love SC2 and the gameplay but almost everything else about the game isn't that great.
Custom hosting in wc3/BW was 1000X better, we can all say the same about the menus and lan support.

Not trying to bash the game but cmon, is moar leagues really going to do anything?
/rant off
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eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
October 22 2010 11:47 GMT
#108
why not gosu league?
6 poll is a good skill toi have
Whitesheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States59 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 11:50:41
October 22 2010 11:49 GMT
#109
this is lawl.
so many complaints from people who prolly wont be in the league ^_^.

tot}ColmA has a good point though few good players, or a lot of bad players enter it and poisons the concept of the league itself.
pfft
Whitesheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States59 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 11:51:29
October 22 2010 11:51 GMT
#110
double post
pfft
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
October 22 2010 12:01 GMT
#111
Very cool. I hope it's top 500ish and has an "elite" vibe to it. Happy to see this and it gives me something to work towards.
Life is Good.
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 22 2010 12:03 GMT
#112
On October 22 2010 17:51 Boblion wrote:
I really hope they will remove the bonus pool for this league and use a real ELO system.


Well, the benefit of the bonus pool is that it discourages rushing to 2500 or whatever and then not playing until the season ends.
whatsgrackalackin420
proletariat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia29 Posts
October 22 2010 12:26 GMT
#113
On October 22 2010 16:47 MadNote wrote:
My question is... What will the picture for Grand Master League be? Will it be a old man's face with a long white beard? Cause that would be hilarious.


Old man's face with a long white beard? YOU MEAN THE DUMBLEDORE LEAGUE!?

I propose that alongside this 'dumbledore league' that there must be a 'grack league' directly below it!
and the number j is not fu**ing funny!
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 22 2010 12:29 GMT
#114
On October 22 2010 21:03 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 17:51 Boblion wrote:
I really hope they will remove the bonus pool for this league and use a real ELO system.


Well, the benefit of the bonus pool is that it discourages rushing to 2500 or whatever and then not playing until the season ends.

You can't rush with an ELO system.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
October 22 2010 12:53 GMT
#115
I really hope its top 2% diamond each region because I'm oh so close to being top 2%.
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
October 22 2010 12:56 GMT
#116
I like "Grand Master" =D "Grand Master League" sounds stupid of course but saying "I'm a Grand Master at SC2" is pretty sweet. Plus it reminds me of Grand Master chess players, but of course those people are on a totally different caliber of awesome.
Champ24
Profile Joined August 2010
177 Posts
October 22 2010 13:09 GMT
#117
They did hint earlier that there would be 2 leagues above diamond.

If that is the case, a masters and grandmasters league fits pretty well.
Alphasquad
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria505 Posts
October 22 2010 13:13 GMT
#118
i would rather like to see a more visible and logical rating before more leagues are created especially the mmr and the differences between new and old leagues are pretty strange and foggy
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
October 22 2010 13:14 GMT
#119
On October 22 2010 20:18 vol_ wrote:
One of my motivations to climb the ladder is so that I have a good chance at playing with the pros, with this league that seems so much further off


It's not going to change much. YOu need to be top diamond to play with the pros anyway. The only thing this will change is shift the top 1-10 or so diamond up a league. You can still get paired with people from a different league.

Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
October 22 2010 13:17 GMT
#120
Silver - from Pokemon
Gold - from Pokemon
Platinum - from Pokemon
Diamond - from Pokemon

Grand Master - from Pokemon TCG?

Seriously guys, call it Pearl league, and put a few legendary achievements you can only get in Pearl
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
October 22 2010 13:18 GMT
#121
On October 22 2010 21:29 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 21:03 kojinshugi wrote:
On October 22 2010 17:51 Boblion wrote:
I really hope they will remove the bonus pool for this league and use a real ELO system.


Well, the benefit of the bonus pool is that it discourages rushing to 2500 or whatever and then not playing until the season ends.

You can't rush with an ELO system.


Uh, yes you can. Play enough games to get to 2500 the first week, don't ever play again until it resets.
whatsgrackalackin420
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
October 22 2010 13:23 GMT
#122
Any plans on multiple diamond leagues? Diamond league tier 1 diamond, tier 2 diamond etc. Low diamond players and mid diamond players are quite far apart in terms of skills. Plus more leagues means more encouragement for players to climb the ladder.
..
Tone_
Profile Joined May 2009
United Kingdom554 Posts
October 22 2010 13:25 GMT
#123
Tbh I don't think any sc announcement I've heard for years is going to affect me, and most people less. I guess it's good for the pro players... don't hugely care what league they're in though.

Only different to the majority is to spawn a bunch of qqing and whining and complaining.

Please do something useful with your time Blizzard.
Hasta La Victoria Siempre | 톤
baph
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland30 Posts
October 22 2010 13:28 GMT
#124
On October 22 2010 22:18 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 21:29 Boblion wrote:
On October 22 2010 21:03 kojinshugi wrote:
On October 22 2010 17:51 Boblion wrote:
I really hope they will remove the bonus pool for this league and use a real ELO system.


Well, the benefit of the bonus pool is that it discourages rushing to 2500 or whatever and then not playing until the season ends.

You can't rush with an ELO system.


Uh, yes you can. Play enough games to get to 2500 the first week, don't ever play again until it resets.

That would only be possible if your opponents had same amount of point because winning against a guy that has much less points wouldnt give you anything. So no, you can't. Besides, if one can make 2500 ELO he deserves it so i don't have anything against him not playing much afterwards.
Castles
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada77 Posts
October 22 2010 13:31 GMT
#125
On October 22 2010 17:37 deL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard

Sounds like a Neo-Buddhism rank.


sounds like a kkk thing..
ITSGOD
KingGhidorah
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom12 Posts
October 22 2010 13:55 GMT
#126
Grand Master League....such a majestic name. I want in after I get out of Gold...
"ROOOOOAR!!!!!!" "ROOOOOAR!!!!!!" "ROOOOOAR!!!!!!"
Kao
Profile Joined July 2010
24 Posts
October 22 2010 13:58 GMT
#127
Gosu League
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
October 22 2010 13:58 GMT
#128
On October 22 2010 16:08 HollowLord wrote:
It's a cover for the rainbow league, highest of all leagues.


Oh, how I wish this was the case. Regardless of how stupid rainbow league sounds, it certainly sounds less stupid than Grand Master, haha. It's good that they're doing it, but I'd go with another name.
Blah.
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
October 22 2010 14:08 GMT
#129
It's the iCCup League!

Get ready to be ranked from D- to A+ again!!!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 22 2010 14:11 GMT
#130
It will be something lame like Titanium League.

But good thing i guess.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
October 22 2010 14:12 GMT
#131
This GM league is just for 1v1 or available for other bracket? Personally I don think team games needs a new league level.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
October 22 2010 14:14 GMT
#132
i think it issolates semi pros
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atombombforpeace
Profile Joined December 2008
United States408 Posts
October 22 2010 14:14 GMT
#133
I was personally hoping for 2 more leagues. A rainbow league and then the ultimate double rainbow league for true gosus. And then after that maybe a bonjwa league, which 0 percent of people are in just to remind people there are no bonjwas.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
October 22 2010 14:19 GMT
#134
On October 22 2010 17:31 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
Hm, thats gonna be a tough call cause if u put like the real top players in u might get the scenario where people search for games for a very long time cause of not enough players actually playing but if u put a lot of people in the top players might not really wanna play cause they dont get quality games going - probably only can be prevented by giving out prizemoney for winning etc.


I seem to not get your point at all

currently it's like basicly everybody who has a basic concept of how to play the game ends up in diamond...and the very best ppl get matched up against ppl of similar skill, if noone's available they'll play against slightly worse

I think ppl of the "grandmaster-league" (what a stupid name, cmon now) would still be able to play against all the other diamond players....with participation being invite only and not automatised or sth like that, dunno; my point is, I guess it's just another "league" and nothing that will change the way ppl are matched against each other
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
October 22 2010 14:19 GMT
#135
I wonder what the icon is, hopefully a rainbow. Maybe a double rainbow??
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2844 Posts
October 22 2010 14:20 GMT
#136
I think it's stupid. The only thing it does is give Diamond players a confidence boost. The matchmaking system matches similarly skilled players already.
aka wilted_kale
osmanic
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany200 Posts
October 22 2010 14:26 GMT
#137
||| Champions League ||| :-D
twitch.tv/manicx90 <- my master toss stream
Atavan
Profile Joined July 2010
1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 14:36:06
October 22 2010 14:35 GMT
#138
What's with the hate for Grand Master? Its like chess. The icon for it should be the Knight
vitriol
Profile Joined September 2010
United States27 Posts
October 22 2010 14:37 GMT
#139
I want to be ranked in the "Justice League."
StarSense
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 14:46:50
October 22 2010 14:41 GMT
#140
Since top 2% is a fickle number, so I'm guessing they will do top 200 of ladder for each region, as they have been displaying the rankings.

AND

There will be 12 tournaments throughout 2011, and there will be 4 types of tournaments.

1. GSL (Ran in January, March, April, July and September) - Main League. 32 Code S players tournament and 64 Code A players tournament.
2. World Championship (Ran in June and October) - 4 representative from each region in a 16 man tournament.
3. Ladder Tournament (Ran in February, May, August and November) - Tournament to decide best of Battle.Net ladder. Top 200 from each region are invited to participate in a preliminary for a 16 man double elimination tournament.
4. Blizzard Cup (Ran in December) - Top 8 (of GSL ranking I'm guessing?) will be invited to decide the best player of the year in a Bo5 Playoff format tournament.
Eluadyl
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey364 Posts
October 22 2010 14:41 GMT
#141
Give it whatever name you want, it'll work as long as you don't delete bronze so it starts off at silver like they did with delete copper add diamond thing
Not enough energy
NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 14:46:37
October 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#142
Well now I have a new goal that I will never probably reach, get into the grand master league

EDIT: Wooo, just checked and I finally over 10,000 in world, go me (shut up Im happy about it)
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
October 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#143
I think GM league is a good name. Will be interesting to see the Icon.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 22 2010 14:44 GMT
#144
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard


You're already the leader of Gryffindor's SC2 team, doesn't that count?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
de1irium
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States121 Posts
October 22 2010 14:46 GMT
#145
On October 22 2010 17:26 inforsomechop wrote:
I say call it TITAN LEAGUE


I like this!

I also think they should revamp it and go ICCup-style ranks ... but I should know better.
Benthum
Profile Joined July 2009
United States39 Posts
October 22 2010 14:50 GMT
#146
Wasn't there going to be something similar called the "Proleague"? That sounds more badass than "Grand Master League", which reminds me too much of chess.
Frem
Profile Joined September 2010
France13 Posts
October 22 2010 15:01 GMT
#147
Pro League would be absurd and missleading as people isnide it may not be "pro" like "professionnal", ie : I play SC2 for a living.
If a Pro League would ever be existing I think it should only be opened to teams identified as real pro teams, so basically an "on invite basis" league.
Terran is OP because of their music theme. Yes, definitely.
universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
October 22 2010 15:05 GMT
#148
i wonder what kind of difference it will make other than bragging rights. if it's only the top 100 of the current diamond league, they'll still be matched up a lot against mid to high diamond opponents, just like before.

i guess it will just be an excuse for the top 100 to call people "diamond scrubs" when they lose to them.
NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
October 22 2010 15:11 GMT
#149
On October 23 2010 00:05 universalwill wrote:
i wonder what kind of difference it will make other than bragging rights. if it's only the top 100 of the current diamond league, they'll still be matched up a lot against mid to high diamond opponents, just like before.

i guess it will just be an excuse for the top 100 to call people "diamond scrubs" when they lose to them.


I doubt its the top 100, he said to 2%, which is much more then 100, but then the next comment was or top 100 overall. So Im kinda confused my self. And you are right the pool will need to be much larger then 100 people if they actually want to match Grandmaster vs Grandmaster.
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
StarSense
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
206 Posts
October 22 2010 15:11 GMT
#150
pro league or star league sound good

oh wait
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
October 22 2010 15:13 GMT
#151
On October 23 2010 00:01 Frem wrote:
Pro League would be absurd and missleading as people isnide it may not be "pro" like "professionnal", ie : I play SC2 for a living.
If a Pro League would ever be existing I think it should only be opened to teams identified as real pro teams, so basically an "on invite basis" league.


blizz should've saved "diamond" for this and stayed with the copper/bronze/silver/gold/plat concept - haha that's what we get for blizz trying to please newbs...
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baph
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland30 Posts
October 22 2010 15:16 GMT
#152
On October 23 2010 00:05 universalwill wrote:
i wonder what kind of difference it will make other than bragging rights. if it's only the top 100 of the current diamond league, they'll still be matched up a lot against mid to high diamond opponents, just like before.

i guess it will just be an excuse for the top 100 to call people "diamond scrubs" when they lose to them.

isn't bragging rights enough ?
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
October 22 2010 15:16 GMT
#153
I want to know how quickly would players be taken out/put into this league.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19053 Posts
October 22 2010 15:21 GMT
#154
It sounds like it's a capped league, so saying "I'm GM League" might actually mean something.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 15:26:40
October 22 2010 15:25 GMT
#155
grand master league sounds cheesy as fuck, I hope they go with pro league.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Hunch
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada336 Posts
October 22 2010 15:30 GMT
#156
well at least now everyone in diamond will stfu on the forums on how "good" they are.

hope i can get in i hate diamond lvl cheese T_T so boring
I have a Hunch.770
Alpz
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom9 Posts
October 22 2010 15:34 GMT
#157
Since "Pro League" is more associated with Brood War, I think "Grand Master League" sounds spot on!

There might have been issues with blizzard calling it Pro League in Korea, so they've settled for this new name. I don't see what the fuss is about, I'm just happy there is another league on top of diamond which will have more meaning when you attain it.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
October 22 2010 15:34 GMT
#158
hahaha

grandmasterrrrr!

i would rather be pokemaster
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
October 22 2010 15:36 GMT
#159
On October 23 2010 00:21 tofucake wrote:
It sounds like it's a capped league, so saying "I'm GM League" might actually mean something.

They'll probably cap it to whatever level David Kim happens to be at the time.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
October 22 2010 15:36 GMT
#160
I'm really interested to see the mechanics of players moving in and out of this league, but knowing blizz it will prob end up being something like "players switch in and out every 3 months or so"

Who knows though, maybe they would go by that top 200 league thing they post every week. Also Pro League > Grand Master league.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 15:44:30
October 22 2010 15:42 GMT
#161
I think SC2 should turn into Dragonball, where after every season, they introduce a higher league that's uber good and noone can get into unless you're amazing. Then at the end of the season, it turns out that league is actually really crap and everyone in it is a scrub, so the next season they'll introduce an EVEN higher league that's even better than this previous awesome league and the cycle will repeat itself. Huk is Goku, called it

If it's going to be two leagues above diamond, I vote Rainbow Road League and Star Power League. When I heard all the Rainbow suggestions, I thought of Mario Kart, but it seems a lot of people think of homosexuals, so to distinguish between Mario Kart league and Gay League, I named it Rainbow Road League instead of Rainbow League. Though the Pearl League idea mentioned previously would be awesome too. But then again, what would the league higher than Pearl be? White League? lol (can't have the White League being above the Black League, that would be straight up racist!)
Trucy Wright is hot
Tigi
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany472 Posts
October 22 2010 15:46 GMT
#162
Whole Leauge system is a joke to me. So this won't change a lot. Will still suck.
§1: Die Units des Hasu sind unantastbar.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 15:47:54
October 22 2010 15:46 GMT
#163
On October 22 2010 16:05 xZiGGY wrote:
From: "It will be revealed tomorrow in BlizzCon, that there will be a new "Grand Master League", a step above the Diamond League. It's going to be the league for the pros, where only top 2% of Diamond League, or top 100 overall, or something like that will be playing at." source

I'm curious to know what people think about this, do you think it will have a positive effect on the current system, do you think it'll be significant? It seems like this is the kind of thing a lot of you kids have been wanting to see recently.


how do they think it's being revealed in Blizzcon if it's already revealed lol

bad blizzard!
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
October 22 2010 15:47 GMT
#164
Looks like a good place to freeze the bonus pool system and slightly increase points decay so it's more meaningful to remain there.
There's no S in KT. :P
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
October 22 2010 15:50 GMT
#165
On October 22 2010 18:38 anilusion wrote:
Let's call it Starleague!


haha good one, original and good! ;-)
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HavoK.
Profile Joined March 2010
United States172 Posts
October 22 2010 15:55 GMT
#166
On October 22 2010 16:11 blabber wrote:
I really hope it's top 200 instead of top 100, haha


Agreed. This whole thing is very interesting, but i do think its going to be harder for people to attempt to get to the highest level of play without being able to play against those players.
ThE.SparkZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States381 Posts
October 22 2010 15:59 GMT
#167
I hope its top 2% of diamond not top 100 or 200 because it wouldn't get much use, if everyone participating in the ladder were the people competing in major tournaments. The whole thought of ladder was to play against good people and to practice for tournaments, but if everyone you're playing against knows exactly how you play because theres only a few people in your rank, then i could see most pro's never shedding an hour of play time in there :[
A battle between gods is just so damn beautiful
dras
Profile Joined August 2010
Kazakhstan376 Posts
October 22 2010 16:00 GMT
#168
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard


thats a really sick and racist joke.
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
October 22 2010 16:14 GMT
#169
On October 23 2010 01:00 dras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard


thats a really sick and racist joke.


what!?
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
October 22 2010 16:43 GMT
#170
On October 23 2010 01:14 gogogadgetflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 01:00 dras wrote:
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard


thats a really sick and racist joke.


what!?


He was making a reference to the klan.
whomybuddy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States620 Posts
October 22 2010 16:46 GMT
#171
I would love to have a double rainbow all the way league. Man it'll be crack.
Roaches all the way way way.
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
October 22 2010 16:49 GMT
#172
I think this league will have bigger implications for top amateurs than for pros. The reason being that pros probably want to practice in-house and keep their gaming more private in order to protect their builds and strategies for tournaments like the GSL.
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 16:54:07
October 22 2010 16:49 GMT
#173
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard

Why settle for grand master wizard when you could be Grand Dragon!!!

EDIT: lol I just looked it up, Grand dragon is lower ranked, damnit...
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/274906/1/Blaze/
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
October 22 2010 16:51 GMT
#174
The name comes from chess, if it wasn't obvious to everyone.
STX Fighting!
VelRa_G
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada304 Posts
October 22 2010 16:52 GMT
#175
Call it Grand Master league. But give samurai portraits to everyone who gets in.
Nuda Veritas
kataa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom384 Posts
October 22 2010 16:54 GMT
#176
On October 23 2010 01:51 vesicular wrote:
The name comes from chess, if it wasn't obvious to everyone.


Yeah, it kinda makes sense. I mean, chess is the father of all strategy games, and the top percentile of chess players are called Grandmasters. So why not give that title to the very top of Starcraft 2? I kinda like it.
Escape
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada306 Posts
October 22 2010 16:59 GMT
#177
I think it's a good name and good idea.

I just worried that many of the real Pro's are not taking the ladder too seriously as many of them do custom games. There should be some kind of incentive in place for being a "GrandMasters", other than just the title.

AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
October 22 2010 17:00 GMT
#178
I feel like this is just going to add another level of elitism. I'm all for an advanced league for amateurs to get the opportunity to go pro, but already people's opinions don't mean anything unless they're an 1800+ Diamond. Now nothing will matter unless you're a grand master? Then in another 4 months when everyone has to be a 3000+ GM to speak in strategy threads, they'll introduce another league?

I know there isn't really a way around this problem happening, but it's frustrating all the same. But I definitely think the top amateurs from the ladder should be recognized and be given chances at bigger tournaments and the like.
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
NukeTheBunnys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1004 Posts
October 22 2010 17:05 GMT
#179
On October 23 2010 01:59 Escape wrote:
I think it's a good name and good idea.

I just worried that many of the real Pro's are not taking the ladder too seriously as many of them do custom games. There should be some kind of incentive in place for being a "GrandMasters", other than just the title.



Well the top GrandMasters are prob going to be who gets invited to the various blizzard tourneys, I think thats pretty good motivation.
When you play the game of drones you win or you die.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
October 22 2010 17:07 GMT
#180
what's the point? Top top diamond players are basically only playing amongst themselves anyways. Just watch a 2000+ point players streaming and they only hit other top players.
Zacsafus
Profile Joined May 2010
England255 Posts
October 22 2010 17:10 GMT
#181
Just think, if flash transfers over to sc2 and gets into GM league he will be, Grand Master Flash! :O:O:O:O
kXn
Profile Joined August 2010
254 Posts
October 22 2010 17:11 GMT
#182
DOUBLE RAINBOOOOOOOOW...


...league
epicopter
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada177 Posts
October 22 2010 17:13 GMT
#183
On October 23 2010 02:10 Zacsafus wrote:
Just think, if flash transfers over to sc2 and gets into GM league he will be, Grand Master Flash! :O:O:O:O


Mind blown.
zoOv
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia269 Posts
October 22 2010 17:14 GMT
#184
On October 23 2010 02:11 kXn wrote:
DOUBLE RAINBOOOOOOOOW...


...league


Hahaha yes!



Listen to this song everytime playing run ling run
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 17:17:22
October 22 2010 17:16 GMT
#185
I hope it won't just be the top 200. There's still a significant skill difference between upper and lower diamond players. If they take all those players and put them into the new league, and leave the lower diamond players with themselves,I think the league skill levels would be much more balanced.
starleague forever
throttled
Profile Joined August 2010
United States382 Posts
October 22 2010 17:18 GMT
#186
League should be called Nerddestroyer League.
"Look to the river rushing. Unparalleled in its power. It carves away at the land, eroding the banks, consuming the sands and washes away to her majesty."
ElitePlaying
Profile Joined August 2010
Greenland25 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 17:24:06
October 22 2010 17:21 GMT
#187
Grand Master? That sounds like Mortal Kombat name, is it suitable? So from metals we moved to Carbon from carbon to Ninja. Top relevance Blizzard. Your logic rox my dirty sox. Just call it 'Pro League' problem solved. It's not like Diamond means pro..
Neeka
Profile Joined October 2010
United States49 Posts
October 22 2010 17:31 GMT
#188
On October 22 2010 16:31 Macavity wrote:
Grand Master League is such a dumb name. I preferred 'pro league' myself. Players already naturally refer to it that way now when they say, "I am in diamond, but I am nowhere near pro level."

I would hope the new league to be a more traditional ladder. No bonus pool please.

I'm not so sure I like the idea of 'invitation only'. That would make it more like an 'elite club' than anything. What will likely happen is that Blizzard will promote only willing players that can be easily exploited for E-sports revenue. And by exploit, I mean it in the full sense of the word. I can see Blizzard saying, "Relax kid. Don't go to college. Keep working your pizza delivery job. Just keep playing Starcraft 2 really well so we can keep getting revenue off your games (revenue you won't see except for a pinch because young kids are financially stupid and can be manipulated)." That is my fear of what will happen.



Pizza guys make a lot of money. Dave Ramsey approves
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Senorcuidado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States700 Posts
October 22 2010 17:33 GMT
#189
I think this is a good idea for the top 100 or 200 but diamond should still be split into two different leagues. There is a gigantic range of skill in diamond, far more than the other leagues. Then again I don't care that much about my league as long as I'm getting matched up with good players. Of course grand master gives us all something to shoot for that might actually mean something unlike rank 1 diamond. I'd love to see strategy guides claiming to get you into gm league...
Neeka
Profile Joined October 2010
United States49 Posts
October 22 2010 17:34 GMT
#190
Are they going to at least nerf the bonus pool at the highest level?
"To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems." -Homer Simpson
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
October 22 2010 17:55 GMT
#191
On October 23 2010 02:34 Neeka wrote:
Are they going to at least nerf the bonus pool at the highest level?



No need to. If you win a game you win 5 pts... if you lose you lose 30 pts.
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Malminos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States321 Posts
October 22 2010 18:28 GMT
#192
IMO it should be called the double rainbow league.

double rainbow > rainbow
"To dream of because become happiness "
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
October 22 2010 18:31 GMT
#193
should be called gosu league... come on
SchAmToo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1141 Posts
October 22 2010 18:32 GMT
#194
On October 23 2010 02:55 YoiChiBow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 02:34 Neeka wrote:
Are they going to at least nerf the bonus pool at the highest level?



No need to. If you win a game you win 5 pts... if you lose you lose 30 pts.


They tried that same method for Star Wars Galaxies' Jedi...it didn't work so well, hahaha
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Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States971 Posts
October 22 2010 19:00 GMT
#195
I just really hope they don't make it similar to what they had in place in war3. Search times are bad already at random hours considering how popular the game is, so Ladders looks downhill. Hopefully you'll still be able to match others despite being in the league, else this is a terrible and bad idea.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
October 22 2010 19:09 GMT
#196
On October 23 2010 04:00 Agh wrote:
I just really hope they don't make it similar to what they had in place in war3. Search times are bad already at random hours considering how popular the game is, so Ladders looks downhill. Hopefully you'll still be able to match others despite being in the league, else this is a terrible and bad idea.

You aren't always matched against someone in your own league.
Parodoxx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States549 Posts
October 22 2010 19:18 GMT
#197
This is still good if they make grand masters only play other grand masters then the league will be worth while and if anything else it knocks all the ppl that show off there 300 diamond status to there friends down a notch
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
October 22 2010 19:53 GMT
#198
it would be extremely awesome if they had a private server which allowed cross realm play in the GM leagues, Top 200 from each region playing against each other?

Theres no way theres enough skilled players to fill a league at the level where most of the MLG/IEM players are playing at.

if a league was composed of the top 100/200 at any one time there would be like 25/50 players on.. and how many of them would be searching for a match?

make it top 500/1000 and your going to end up with a whole bunch of jobbers... keep in mind ~1800 points gets you into the top 500 in NA...
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
October 22 2010 20:14 GMT
#199
i donno if i love this or if i hate this. i feel that nerd ego drive in me wanting to play some sc2 again even though ive been enjoying my freedom from my computer for the past month.
TheGeo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States51 Posts
October 22 2010 20:18 GMT
#200
This summer, I need to get in this league, and I prob can with 10 hours of play a day. ^^
Geo the Geo
The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
October 22 2010 20:35 GMT
#201
they should just call it "Pro League"...what r all these fuss about gay ass names popping up...-_-;
keep it simple and straight to the point..
main thing we should be interested in about is the size of this league and will these guys be matched against each other or will it work same as right now where top plat get matched against diamond and etc...
2010 worldcup!! corea fighting!!!
sl0w
Profile Joined July 2010
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 20:42:26
October 22 2010 20:41 GMT
#202
On October 23 2010 05:35 The6357 wrote:
they should just call it "Pro League"...what r all these fuss about gay ass names popping up...-_-


I think that would cause some confusion with Proleague, no?

Grand Master League sounds badass though. I just wanna know what emblem they'll use for it lol.
leeznon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States255 Posts
October 22 2010 20:45 GMT
#203
Love it, but it should be more than 100 players.
(maybe 200-500)
Zerg=Skill
Zvendetta
Profile Joined July 2010
United States321 Posts
October 22 2010 20:48 GMT
#204
Sounds like there preparing for the weekly high level tournaments blizzards been promising for all this while.
If your in the GM league, then you can play in the multi region tournament, easy enough.
"Its as if I can see the gears of the Eternal Alchemy spinning before, and I can almost reach out and turn them with my hands."
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
October 22 2010 20:48 GMT
#205
When I first read this post I thought it was about a league for only good-mannered players >_<.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 20:50:19
October 22 2010 20:49 GMT
#206
On October 23 2010 05:41 motus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 05:35 The6357 wrote:
they should just call it "Pro League"...what r all these fuss about gay ass names popping up...-_-


I think that would cause some confusion with Proleague, no?

Grand Master League sounds badass though. I just wanna know what emblem they'll use for it lol.

There isnt a proleague for sc2, and i doubt most sc2 players even know what Proleague is, also the icon will probably be a picture of incontrol of course

On October 23 2010 05:45 leeznon wrote:
Love it, but it should be more than 100 players.
(maybe 200-500)


It should be the 100, last thing TL needs is a bunch of pompous jackasses saying they are in GM league and jumping up on their high horse
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
October 22 2010 20:50 GMT
#207
On October 23 2010 05:45 leeznon wrote:
Love it, but it should be more than 100 players.
(maybe 200-500)


Why? There are enough bad players in the top 100 who have 1 build per matchup. 100 is the right amount to keep pro players with the incentive to actually ladder, and keep the hopefuls ready to fight.
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xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
October 22 2010 20:51 GMT
#208
sup 2 new leagues apparantly, no set date though "coming with season 2"
Meh.
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
October 22 2010 20:57 GMT
#209
i am pretty sure grand master will only be matched agains themselves. Master could be match with high diamond i guess
@ggmonx
Proto_Protoss
Profile Joined September 2010
United States495 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 21:01:27
October 22 2010 21:01 GMT
#210
Its not going to affect 95% of SC2 players they should have one with like top 30% thats like for people who are competitive but not dedicated all the way.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in getting up everytime we do." - Confucius
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
October 22 2010 21:38 GMT
#211
Hey guys... Anyone have idea of the points cut off for the top 5% of diamond?
One Love
Powster
Profile Joined April 2010
United States650 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 21:52:48
October 22 2010 21:48 GMT
#212
personally I would like to tell ppl I am in the "grand master league" (although I wont ever be) but that sounds way cooler than just "pro league". I might start playing again to get into master league at least though...
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
October 22 2010 21:52 GMT
#213
On October 23 2010 05:49 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 05:41 motus wrote:
On October 23 2010 05:35 The6357 wrote:
they should just call it "Pro League"...what r all these fuss about gay ass names popping up...-_-


I think that would cause some confusion with Proleague, no?

Grand Master League sounds badass though. I just wanna know what emblem they'll use for it lol.

There isnt a proleague for sc2, and i doubt most sc2 players even know what Proleague is, also the icon will probably be a picture of incontrol of course

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 05:45 leeznon wrote:
Love it, but it should be more than 100 players.
(maybe 200-500)


It should be the 100, last thing TL needs is a bunch of pompous jackasses saying they are in GM league and jumping up on their high horse


I can't wait to do this when I get in.

Hey guys, I'm only in Grand Master League, but what do I know?
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 21:57:59
October 22 2010 21:57 GMT
#214
On October 23 2010 06:01 Proto_Protoss wrote:
Its not going to affect 95% of SC2 players they should have one with like top 30% thats like for people who are competitive but not dedicated all the way.


They actually have implemented a system where the top 30% are separated. Beyond that they are separated even further into two leagues they call "Diamond" and "Platinum".
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
October 22 2010 22:00 GMT
#215
On October 23 2010 02:10 Zacsafus wrote:
Just think, if flash transfers over to sc2 and gets into GM league he will be, Grand Master Flash! :O:O:O:O


What if someone with the handle Bater gets into that league?
There's no S in KT. :P
Cow
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1104 Posts
October 22 2010 22:07 GMT
#216
On October 23 2010 07:00 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 02:10 Zacsafus wrote:
Just think, if flash transfers over to sc2 and gets into GM league he will be, Grand Master Flash! :O:O:O:O


What if someone with the handle Bater gets into that league?


ROFL
R.I.P. Nujabes ♫
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 22:10:58
October 22 2010 22:09 GMT
#217
Announced at Blizzcon today.

Grand Master League will be top 200 per region
Master League will be top x% from Diamond. ( Said something about 3ish% but I'm not sure ).
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
October 22 2010 22:19 GMT
#218
I would hate for it to be called "Pro League" as some people have been suggesting. If someone says they are 'pro' at a game it should be short for 'professional'. In my opinion it should be mean gaming is your profession, not just "you're really good at it".
No I'm never serious.
Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
October 22 2010 22:19 GMT
#219
On October 23 2010 05:41 motus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 05:35 The6357 wrote:
they should just call it "Pro League"...what r all these fuss about gay ass names popping up...-_-


I think that would cause some confusion with Proleague, no?

Grand Master League sounds badass though. I just wanna know what emblem they'll use for it lol.


Picture of a dude with a beard.
Tahts halo dont worry
CoMMoDuS
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany507 Posts
October 22 2010 22:22 GMT
#220
hopefully that will lead people to stop thinking that just because they are in diamond means that they are actually good.
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Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
October 22 2010 22:27 GMT
#221
On October 23 2010 07:22 CoMMoDuS wrote:
hopefully that will lead people to stop thinking that just because they are in diamond means that they are actually good.


Morons will always think they are good, even if they are only platinum. I got BM'd by a high gold player during a Nexus Wars game for sucking and being a cheesy diamond noob. It was hilarious.

Again... What is the current POINTS cut off for Top 5% of Diamond???
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Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 22:35:20
October 22 2010 22:34 GMT
#222
On October 23 2010 07:27 Sleight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 07:22 CoMMoDuS wrote:
hopefully that will lead people to stop thinking that just because they are in diamond means that they are actually good.


Morons will always think they are good, even if they are only platinum. I got BM'd by a high gold player during a Nexus Wars game for sucking and being a cheesy diamond noob. It was hilarious.

Again... What is the current POINTS cut off for Top 5% of Diamond???

top 2% is 1700+
im expecting top 5% to be 1500ish

go calculate 5% of 44k

and check random ladder players
kYem
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom412 Posts
October 22 2010 22:51 GMT
#223
I actually like the league names ;d, btw that's the same thing what they did for warcraft 3, each season you have top 200 goes to special ladder, playing only other players in that league with out mmr, so that's means almost instant games. Top 100 at the end of season will be automatically invited to league once again, while new top 100 will replace the old top 100-200.

It will be interesting to see how everything will evolve
Hell
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
October 22 2010 23:07 GMT
#224
If it's supposed to be just a league above Diamond then 2% seems fine. If it's supposed to be a "pro league" then I'd say make it top 100.
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
October 22 2010 23:11 GMT
#225
they should call it something else definitely. sounds too much like a chess thing.
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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 22 2010 23:12 GMT
#226
I love how its the GRAND MASTER League... LOL..
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
October 22 2010 23:27 GMT
#227
did they say how often the leagues will be re-evaluated like for new players etc
Archduke
Profile Joined May 2010
United States119 Posts
October 22 2010 23:29 GMT
#228
D'oh. Does this mean I'll have to start playing 1v1 again to engorge my epeen?
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 22 2010 23:35 GMT
#229
Hey everybody, I'm the Chief Priest of the Rainbow Road of Starcraft II.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 22 2010 23:36 GMT
#230
Peekaboo
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada219 Posts
October 22 2010 23:38 GMT
#231
Omg , I need to start The Truth About The Grand Master League thread, asap!!!
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xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
October 23 2010 00:43 GMT
#232
I wanna be a starcraftmon master :< ...
Meh.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
October 23 2010 00:48 GMT
#233
On October 23 2010 06:52 PokePill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 05:49 arb wrote:
On October 23 2010 05:41 motus wrote:
On October 23 2010 05:35 The6357 wrote:
they should just call it "Pro League"...what r all these fuss about gay ass names popping up...-_-


I think that would cause some confusion with Proleague, no?

Grand Master League sounds badass though. I just wanna know what emblem they'll use for it lol.

There isnt a proleague for sc2, and i doubt most sc2 players even know what Proleague is, also the icon will probably be a picture of incontrol of course

On October 23 2010 05:45 leeznon wrote:
Love it, but it should be more than 100 players.
(maybe 200-500)


It should be the 100, last thing TL needs is a bunch of pompous jackasses saying they are in GM league and jumping up on their high horse


I can't wait to do this when I get in.

Hey guys, I'm only in Grand Master League, but what do I know?


How to 4 gate?
There's no S in KT. :P
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 23 2010 00:50 GMT
#234
Fuck yea, master league will be mine! Been getting tired of diamond as is ^^
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
October 23 2010 01:01 GMT
#235
hm 1500 eh? already above that. guess i better grind some more to secure my place ^_^ keke
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Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
October 23 2010 01:08 GMT
#236
Masters should be top 5%, grandmasters top 200 only =/
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
October 24 2010 16:05 GMT
#237
Seems like how they described it that it will be easier to stalk the higher level players because anybody can view the GM league. They also talked about featured matches which is interesting, but I would think would suck for those who want to keep their strategy secret. I suppose that's why those build order hider maps are out, but I can see being in GM league being a bad thing for privacy not just a status symbol.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 16:16:06
October 24 2010 16:15 GMT
#238
If they had never removed the Copper League, then they wouldn't have to include both the Masters AND Grandmaster's League -.-' Everything would just shift up one and the *new* leagues would be Diamond and Master's.

By the way, official icons for Master and GrandMaster Leagues:

Master: http://tinyurl.com/yh8akns

GrandMaster: http://tinyurl.com/dakdrb

You're welcome.
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Yotta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States270 Posts
October 24 2010 16:15 GMT
#239
On October 22 2010 16:31 Kachna wrote:
Nooo dont call it rainbow league, that sounds ridiculous. Call it .. ehm .. Crystal league !!!
Diamond is arguably the best crystal, why would you want to be promoted from the best crystal to some generic crystal? Diamond players might laugh at them and call it the salt league.
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
October 24 2010 16:26 GMT
#240
Good this means Rainbow league will become more exclusive as people are demoted into the GM league.
KwanROLLLLLLLED
Treva
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States533 Posts
October 24 2010 16:32 GMT
#241
GM icon should be a beard made of beef jerky punching a lion in the face.
Live it up.
Fitzhunt1
Profile Joined February 2010
United States169 Posts
October 24 2010 16:43 GMT
#242
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard

Inst that the leader of the kkk...
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Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
October 24 2010 16:47 GMT
#243
On October 25 2010 01:43 Fitzhunt1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard

Inst that the leader of the kkk...

[image loading]

User was temp banned for this post.
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StarSense
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
206 Posts
October 24 2010 16:48 GMT
#244
sc2ranks: 448 pages of NA diamond, x 100 per page = 44800 x .05 (5%) = top 2240
so something like that ^_^

peachsncream
Profile Joined April 2010
United States289 Posts
October 24 2010 16:50 GMT
#245
this is kinda dumb.... the top 100 already should be playing each other unless its a 300-100 and a 500-500. I hope it's going to be more than just a 100 player pool or gl on search times...
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Bluetea
Profile Joined August 2010
United States185 Posts
October 24 2010 17:44 GMT
#246
I like this. It's going to be nice to feel like I'm working towards something again.
All these bitches is my sons.
itungle
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States90 Posts
October 24 2010 17:48 GMT
#247
I have a question regarding the Master League.
It said that 5% of the top diamond will be able to promote to Master League. so What about the people that is slightly below the top 5%? Obviously "the people who is slightly below the top 5%" will become the "new top 5%" so will they ever promote to Master League or they will just stuck to Diamond League forever?>
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lofi01
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia52 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 17:50:02
October 24 2010 17:49 GMT
#248
OMG i need to be the pokemon master!! oops i mean grand master... but i have anther 400+ points to go to hit 1900
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
October 24 2010 17:51 GMT
#249
Will they be mostly matched to play GM League people, or will it be against diamond as well?
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 24 2010 17:53 GMT
#250
Is there any word on when this is actually going into effect?
[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
October 24 2010 17:55 GMT
#251
On October 25 2010 01:47 Backpack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 01:43 Fitzhunt1 wrote:
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard

Inst that the leader of the kkk...

[image loading]


I believe the title is, THE GRAND IMPERIAL WIZARD!!!!!

pretty good stuff for a fanatically racist group :D.
JF dodger since 2009
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
October 24 2010 17:57 GMT
#252
It seems like it's just gonna be another thing for people to be douchebags and brag about how they're better than everyone else at life because they're in the Grand Master League. : /
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sOvrn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States678 Posts
October 24 2010 17:59 GMT
#253
On October 25 2010 02:44 Bluetea wrote:
I like this. It's going to be nice to feel like I'm working towards something again.


Ya I feel the same way. I even like the names, they seem totally appropriate too )
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Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
October 24 2010 18:00 GMT
#254
Stupid. Just get rid of bonus pool and different colored leagues and mimic the chess ELO system.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
October 24 2010 18:02 GMT
#255
On October 25 2010 03:00 Drowsy wrote:
Stupid. Just get rid of bonus pool and different colored leagues and mimic the chess ELO system.


But then newbies would know how newbie they are, and that's clearly blasphemy.
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Bluetea
Profile Joined August 2010
United States185 Posts
October 24 2010 18:03 GMT
#256
On October 25 2010 02:57 Ferrose wrote:
It seems like it's just gonna be another thing for people to be douchebags and brag about how they're better than everyone else at life because they're in the Grand Master League. : /


The people who say things like that are generally low diamond players. The Grand Master league will consist of the top 200 (that's what Blizzard said). That means the Grand Master league will consist of mostly professional players, who I don't predict to go around saying "I'm a Grand Master so I am king."

Just saying.
All these bitches is my sons.
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
October 24 2010 18:05 GMT
#257
On October 25 2010 02:48 itungle wrote:
I have a question regarding the Master League.
It said that 5% of the top diamond will be able to promote to Master League. so What about the people that is slightly below the top 5%? Obviously "the people who is slightly below the top 5%" will become the "new top 5%" so will they ever promote to Master League or they will just stuck to Diamond League forever?>


Master League is top 5% of diamond that's all there is to it. If you finally get to the top 5% you get promoted and if you drop out of the top 5% you're back to diamond, it's not that hard of a system.

I get what you're trying saying that if they promote they're not the top 5% anymore of Diamond but Blizzard will just take both Master League and Diamond into consideration after the first 5% promote.
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
Chronocide
Profile Joined August 2007
United States126 Posts
October 24 2010 18:06 GMT
#258
based on the numbers at SC2ranks.com I estimated Diamond to be the top 6%. If Master's is 5% of 6%, that means it represents the top 0.3%. GLHF
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lindn
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden833 Posts
October 24 2010 18:06 GMT
#259
why not just have a point ranking system without leagues? bronze would be around <250. silver 250-500. gold 500-750. plat 750-1000. diamond 1000blahblahblah etcetc you get it.

and get rid of the bonus pool, it's kinda retarded.
OhNoItsTheMunch
Profile Joined June 2009
United States96 Posts
October 24 2010 18:08 GMT
#260
Whats wrong with everyone just being able to see what place they are in out of everyone that plays on ladder? I forget, are we just trying to make everyone feel good still and appease the rest?
Bluetea
Profile Joined August 2010
United States185 Posts
October 24 2010 18:11 GMT
#261
I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but this is only for 1v1 right? It'd be kind of weird to have a Master and Grand Master league for 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4...
All these bitches is my sons.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
October 24 2010 18:13 GMT
#262
so when is this comming out ?
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 18:18:38
October 24 2010 18:18 GMT
#263
On October 25 2010 01:47 Backpack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 01:43 Fitzhunt1 wrote:
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard

Inst that the leader of the kkk...

[image loading]



ba dum da dishhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

+1 incontrol for the lulz


On October 25 2010 03:13 cilinder007 wrote:
so when is this comming out ?


Blizzard soon™
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LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
October 24 2010 18:22 GMT
#264
The top league should be Unobtainium League. Or if you want to go by market value (even though it doesn't sound as good), Antimatter League.
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Pfeff
Profile Joined August 2010
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 18:30:28
October 24 2010 18:28 GMT
#265
On October 23 2010 07:27 Sleight wrote:
What is the current POINTS cut off for Top 5% of Diamond???


I'll let you figure it out for yourself, this should give you a decent idea. Keep in mind the cutoff changes on the daily, it'll be higher tomorrow than it is today, etc

http://www.sc2ranks.com/team/4309278

In case you don't want to find a closer number, I'm at 1763 according to that and 1.76 percentile (use region not world for this), so just do the math (or look at random profiles until you find the % you want)
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RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
October 24 2010 18:37 GMT
#266
id imagine they are doing it based off of the top200 and MMR... not necessairly simply points

i think his is a great idea... only thing is that i would hope they provide the ability to be promoted to it, as well as demoted if not participating, so that there isnt a completely elevated competitive group, would completely cut off the remainder of the competitive scene to just the players in the GM league
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Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
October 24 2010 18:47 GMT
#267
On October 25 2010 03:00 Drowsy wrote:
Stupid. Just get rid of bonus pool and different colored leagues and mimic the chess ELO system.


this is full of win , hope they did it this way.

if still they want they can put colors to ELO ranges and thats it.
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
October 24 2010 19:13 GMT
#268
On October 22 2010 16:24 HollowLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2010 16:22 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I hope to be the grand master wizard


Well, people already call you the Grand Wizard so I guess you're 2/3 there.


nigga people call me the imperial wizard
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
sl0w
Profile Joined July 2010
United States447 Posts
October 24 2010 19:26 GMT
#269
Any word on when these new leagues will come to fruition?
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