EPTat the top of my mind i can think... scout, get vision of a high area so you can hit from below with other units, or get a high ground xel naga... but i dont think any of them really worth it
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mati
Argentina114 Posts
at the top of my mind i can think... scout, get vision of a high area so you can hit from below with other units, or get a high ground xel naga... but i dont think any of them really worth it | ||
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Madkipz
Norway1643 Posts
On October 17 2010 06:46 Snowfield wrote: Watch the MLG, there is no chance to punish a good zerg for FEing ofc there is, the terrans you see there are just playing way too safe and thats how it should be, if you want safety you gotta sacrifice something important. | ||
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StayFrosty
Canada743 Posts
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Carthage
105 Posts
On October 17 2010 06:46 Snowfield wrote: Watch the MLG, there is no chance to punish a good zerg for FEing Don't say that. It takes a lot longer than a few days to figure things out. Maybe the proper response to a zerg fast expo is something crazy like a double planetary fortress expo, who knows? Give it time. | ||
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Crabby
United States66 Posts
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skronch
United States2717 Posts
On October 17 2010 06:49 MorroW wrote: something ive become a fan of since start of this patch is to go 15cc :p if they always fe then im gonna start CC first, tbh its pretty fair econ in that not playing zerg anymore?  | ||
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
i wonder what idra is gonna say about "self-respect" now. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On October 17 2010 16:45 dybydx wrote: great... we are back to the beta days with imba roaches. i wonder what idra is gonna say about "self-respect" now. Did you know Idra won without going roaches? O_O. (I don't know about him vs huk so he might have then). But Roaches aren't imba ^^ | ||
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bashalisk
102 Posts
On October 16 2010 10:08 tdt wrote: No it's incredibly smart. Lemme draw you a picture to follow. 1. Blizzard is a company. 2. Companies want to make maximum profit. 3. Gaming companies profit when game is good. 4. A game is good when higher proportion of player are happy. 5. Catering to non pros or even non diamond players makes more people happy since bronze - platinum make up most of the players. 6. Catering to 200-300 professionals makes no sense vs. 3 million and counting good/pros. 7. Blizzards goal is not to make game balanced or people happy in pros or even all diamond but as many people as possible instead. 8. Nerfing races and buffing others is done with that calculus in mind as reflected by Bnet statistics posted. Toss are crushing others. And Zerg very weak against both. Anyone who cares about profit and understand business would agree. As to you second part. I'll bet anyone and all comers $10 a tourney with 4:1 odds (there is only 3 races) protoss will not win any major tourney again. You're so short-sighted it's not even funny. Did you by any chance notice all the people cheering at the MLG? Do you suppose they were happy? I'm not really interested in pointing the obvious, but you should really educate yourself about how markets work before any future bikeshedding pseudo-analysis attempts. I guarantee it'll help you with your future jobs too. | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On October 17 2010 16:45 dybydx wrote: great... we are back to the beta days with imba roaches. i wonder what idra is gonna say about "self-respect" now. I really dont think that +1 range roaches is as imba as -1 supply, +1 armor roaches. I think people are overreacting again. | ||
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Santi
Colombia466 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12051 Posts
On October 17 2010 07:35 Carthage wrote: Don't say that. It takes a lot longer than a few days to figure things out. Maybe the proper response to a zerg fast expo is something crazy like a double planetary fortress expo, who knows? Give it time. You know, that's not a bad idea, it'd just be what Protoss had to basically do, get a third as fast as humanly possible. I might give that a try (well not PF's, use Bunkers and stuff). | ||
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Seze
42 Posts
On October 16 2010 10:08 tdt wrote: No it's incredibly smart. Lemme draw you a picture to follow. 1. Blizzard is a company. 2. Companies want to make maximum profit. 3. Gaming companies profit when game is good. 4. A game is good when higher proportion of player are happy. 5. Catering to non pros or even non diamond players makes more people happy since bronze - platinum make up most of the players. 6. Catering to 200-300 professionals makes no sense vs. 3 million and counting good/pros. 7. Blizzards goal is not to make game balanced or people happy in pros or even all diamond but as many people as possible instead. 8. Nerfing races and buffing others is done with that calculus in mind as reflected by Bnet statistics posted. Toss are crushing others. And Zerg very weak against both. Anyone who cares about profit and understand business would agree. As to you second part. I'll bet anyone and all comers $10 a tourney with 4:1 odds (there is only 3 races) protoss will not win any major tourney again. 4:1 odds ... those are good odds. Protoss has to win just 1 out of every 5 tournaments, to break even. If the game is balanced enough, I'm betting you'll prolly end up losing alot of money in the long run, if every TL user decides to take your bet, ofcause. | ||
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tyreecestylz
7 Posts
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slam
United States923 Posts
On October 18 2010 18:51 tyreecestylz wrote: Zerg is imba now ... they out macrowing ... all T n P in the pro scene and buffing roaches ... omg blizzard??? Instead of nerfing... the Toss and Terran why didnt they just buff zerg duh? The foundations were already there .. its easier to slightly balance things by slowly buffing units not nerfing does neone agree? ... I'm sorry. What? | ||
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pedduck
Thailand468 Posts
On October 16 2010 18:57 blade55555 wrote: So now that you aren't winning 60-70% your saying zergs imba now? Wow irony at its best good to see the game balancing out though making players like you quit :D I am not saying zerg is imba dude. I am just saying i lost to zerg a lot more than it use to be, which is not a bad thing. Whetehr the game is balance or not doesn't depend on my win ratio LOL. Take it easy. | ||
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Joppish
Sweden27 Posts
I directly notice that the game is less chees n' abusive oriented and more relly on long term strategy. I think the supply nerf has something to do with the power of OC and the QQ for mules. Now T cant do the same early pushes and cover the eco with mules cus they need to spend the early money diffrent. And for the VR's, its kinda nice to have in knowledge that P cant throw one game ending units on you early on even if it was easy to deffend but it was just a bad for the game, same as reapers. | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
On October 17 2010 16:45 dybydx wrote: great... we are back to the beta days with imba roaches. Zerg's fine, l2p! (yeah, I've wanted to say that for a loooong time!) | ||
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ZaaaaaM
Netherlands1828 Posts
On October 18 2010 18:51 tyreecestylz wrote: Zerg is imba now ... they out macrowing ... all T n P in the pro scene and buffing roaches ... omg blizzard??? Instead of nerfing... the Toss and Terran why didnt they just buff zerg duh? The foundations were already there .. its easier to slightly balance things by slowly buffing units not nerfing does neone agree? Battle.net forums are that way --> | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
Short version: you can't snipe buildings with voids anymore. They're the new scouts. | ||
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