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YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
October 14 2010 19:23 GMT
#501
pretty good patch for team games and it came out way earlier than i would of thought
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skurj
Profile Joined September 2010
United States87 Posts
October 14 2010 19:23 GMT
#502
Looks to me like this patch makes carriers a more viable alternative to Void Rays.
I'd rather be zerg rushing
Cynoks
Profile Joined May 2010
United States87 Posts
October 14 2010 19:24 GMT
#503
On October 15 2010 04:21 arb wrote:
un needed voidray nerf

my one opening vs terran doesnt work
awesome

Your only "Opening" vs terran was void rays? lol...
Scoop
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland482 Posts
October 14 2010 19:24 GMT
#504
On October 15 2010 04:16 NoUShutUp wrote:
And what happens if you lose all your supply depots. Then you can't build a barracks.


So... when you lose all your depots the first thing you build is rax? To be supply blocked? If Protoss loses all their pylons, they can't build a gateway either. Not that it matters at all.
UisTehSux
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States693 Posts
October 14 2010 19:24 GMT
#505
HOLY ZERG BUFF. The only Terran thing I have a problem with is the depot requirement for barracks, wtf?

I underestimated that boy. No... it was not the boy I underestimated, it was the Triforce of Courage.
Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
October 14 2010 19:24 GMT
#506
from all the QQing in here it seems like i'm one of the very very few P who doesn't use VR.
good games = warp prisms
boring games = void rays


this patch is a step in the right direction
(they all are!!)
"The zoo could not confirm that Binky was the attacker, but only Binky had blood on his face following the incident"
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
October 14 2010 19:25 GMT
#507
OMG PATCH CRAZY DAY OMG WOOOOO
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DetrA
Profile Joined October 2010
United States148 Posts
October 14 2010 19:25 GMT
#508
holy crap that was fast i think blizzard was listening to us
"Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence." -Calvin Coolidge
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
October 14 2010 19:25 GMT
#509
On October 15 2010 04:21 Obsolescence wrote:
I still think the supply depot before rax is ridiculous, and why all the QQ from Tossies? They didn't touch VR charge level 3... It isn't as if they wont still be ungodly when fully charged. I'm so glad that they removed the energy from corruptors / thors.

There's no such thing as a charge level 3. There are only 2 levels.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 20:49:25
October 14 2010 19:25 GMT
#510
This thread is growing faster than I can read it.

edit - just reached this post while reading.
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 19:26:29
October 14 2010 19:25 GMT
#511
On October 15 2010 04:16 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 04:12 FindingPride wrote:
On October 15 2010 03:23 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Void Rays worthless now They had such difficult to overcome weaknesses against very basic and common units, Marines Hydras and Stalkers. Marines and Hydras in numbers at like 1/4 or 1/3 the cost of the Void Rays could fend off Void Rays but that wasn't enough? Vikings totally owned Void Rays before they got speed upgrade and now they own them even when the Void Rays get speed upgrade. Stalkers can probably approach charged up Void Rays now too since that reduction in damage against armored is so huge. And of course Protoss keeps getting worse against air... brood lords, corruptors and battlecruisers are now much more difficult to deal with.

I couldn't disagree more. Voidrays were way to powerful. I could never punish my protoss opponents for playing like retards. guy had 2 gates and a stargate and had about 5 voidrays after he fail pushed me. He made an expansion and i had 4 raxes. Guess who couldn't even kill 4 units? me.
tbh i like to live in a game where i can punish my opponents for making bad decisions. Like expanding vs a 4 rax. 5 units should not beable to decimate my army in less then 5 seconds when its fully charged. Also another reason for this change is to make protoss use carriers more. Voids aren't useless they are just going to have be played with differently. I wish i could gather a few of my replays but i didn't save these ones to show you. But voidrays were a universal unit. GOOD at deffending and GOOD at attacking and HARASSING. But i think this is going to prompt carrier usage more lategame which imo is a good thing.

The tools existed in the game for you to utterly decimate that guy but you just didn't use them. They would not have even required any more speed. If you just played smarter and made good decisions, it would have been an easy win like you say.

So its a complete necessity to have vikings to pursue any sort of push vs voids? I did have options available how ever i felt an expansion would have been a mistake. I just wiped out all of his gate units. and was on 3 raxes at that time with stim and combat shield. Teching would take awhile and given my opponent ample time to produce a large amount of gateways giving the expansion. My option was to take advantage of the fact his expansion had just finished and that he just lost his gate units and was only on 3 production facilities. Do you understand my logic now? I can understand your point of view. But are my options really limited to teching-expanding? and god forbid i played someone good who would abuse the charge and constantly harass me with pylon charge up while i did this.
Also. I suppose i underestimated a unit that is excellent at harass is also more then excellent at defense.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
October 14 2010 19:25 GMT
#512

Buildings
-Barracks requirement changed from Command Center to Supply Depot.
Reaper
-Nitro Packs speed upgrade now has a Factory Requirement.

Hopefully expansions will just remove Reapers from the game so they can stop warping Terran's tech tree to accommodate a poorly designed unit >__>
brood war for life, brood war forever
SpiDaH
Profile Joined March 2010
France198 Posts
October 14 2010 19:25 GMT
#513
It begins. Hell yeah!
Phrencys
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada270 Posts
October 14 2010 19:25 GMT
#514
VRs were already rarely seen on the pro scene. Then again I remember Blue saying they wanted to nerf team cheese... I should've guessed they would've targeted the silver leagues.

VR are now so cost ineffective it's not even funny. The only reason I see to touch the stargate branch now is for luls when you got 3k minerals banked and wanna make a mothership.
graphene
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland211 Posts
October 14 2010 19:25 GMT
#515
how about terran and toss players race switch i bet after 1 week ull all switch srsly stop complaining.....
cloud computing is the future
Parodoxx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States549 Posts
October 14 2010 19:26 GMT
#516
I feel that protoss is getting the brunt of the nerf stick with each of these patches and I dont understand why. First zealots we can make 21% less off a normal gateway count, now voidrays and the thor/corrupter change is even a nerf to toss. with the lack of use for feedback. So are collosi armys are weaker vs zerg as we cant kill corrupters with feedback.

idk maybe im bitter but toss seems to be getting pushed into the ground well zerg really goes unchanged just sorta riding the wave.
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
October 14 2010 19:26 GMT
#517
On October 15 2010 04:09 Mjolnir wrote:

I play Random or Zerg which means I only pull Terran once in a while. Given that, I think the changes to Barracks requirements and Nitro Packs are asinine.

We've already dealt with Reapers. They've already been nerfed, and the community seems to have figured out how to deal with them weeks ago. I do not understand why things get "double nerfed" like this after the problem has already been solved. First they increased Reaper build times; now they're delaying upgrades, improving counter units, and making buildings stronger (not specifically for Reapers but I'm sure they were in mind too).

And now depot before Rax? Come on... where's the fun in that? It's not a huge deal but really, it just removes some creative play.

And VRs. What the hell? I can't recall the last time I saw them being used in any OP way.

Makes me wonder who they're catering to. Is it the pro-gamers or the sub-platinum league casuals?
The reaper nerf was most definitely for team games. PP can now stand a chance against ZT.

yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 14 2010 19:26 GMT
#518
Ha. Tons of PvT nerfs... no PvZ nerfs? Lots of ZvP buffs, though. Maybe we will see a carrier now someday.

Also, I don't feel great about the death of the legendary BBS.
ALang
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
October 14 2010 19:26 GMT
#519
I can't feedback a thor and can't blink under broodlords if theres an infestor around. This is going to be annoying late game.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
October 14 2010 19:26 GMT
#520
On October 15 2010 04:25 Phrencys wrote:
VRs were already rarely seen on the pro scene. Then again I remember Blue saying they wanted to nerf team cheese... I should've guessed they would've targeted the silver leagues.

VR are now so cost ineffective it's not even funny. The only reason I see to touch the stargate branch now is for luls when you got 3k minerals banked and wanna make a mothership.


Do you think before you post? Phoenixes are amazing and were already very frequently used without getting any VRs.
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