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On October 02 2010 21:48 Scrapiron wrote:I'm no expert on these things, but could they be getting paid by Second Life and other things for the coverage? It would make a lot of sense, considering how un intuitive and garbage second life is compared to something action packed and thought (strategy) provoking like SC2. One last thought: You could submit an article to them covering it yourself! That way, all they would have to do is post it after some editing. 
The BBC is mandated to be neutral, they are not getting paid by people for coverage.
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On October 02 2010 20:58 yomi wrote:
thousands of viewers is honestly nothing. lumberjack, eating, spelling, poker, and strongman competitions absolutely dwarf SC2 viewership numbers. just fyi. start a letter campaign if you want to then more power to you. it would help to post an address you want people to write to and a form letter for them to send
That is false, there were more people watching the HDH then G4Tech and starcraft 2 falls right under g4's wing. SO I don't see why requests couldn't be put in to other tv channels. I mean MLG has [or had] a deal with ESPN to report a few of the major games on their show and had a content deal to report games on the site itself. I don't see why starcraft 2 cant go a bit more commercial. HOWEVER to ask yourself is that what you really need or is that what starcraft 2 needs is a better question; Personally I'm quite content with the free streams and the free enterprise tournament system we have now that virtually anyone can make money off of this game.
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Sad to say this, but watching people play computer games that I don't play myself is boring.
I love to watch SC2 and Counter-Strike because I play them. But watching street fighter or some other game I don't play - no way for more than 10 minutes. Football is way more fun to watch.
Don't know how they manage to pull it off in korea... all I can think of is different culture.
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On October 02 2010 22:01 Coeus1 wrote:
Sad to say this, but watching people play computer games that I don't play myself is boring.
I love to watch SC2 and Counter-Strike because I play them. But watching street fighter or some other game I don't play - no way for more than 10 minutes. Football is way more fun to watch.
Don't know how they manage to pull it off in korea... all I can think of is different culture.
I disagree i don't play much halo but watching the top 10's from mlg or watching an mlg event for any game is actually quite entertaining regardless of the genre that they're showing. Obviously they'd have to get really good viewership and find out some good settings and totally 100% fix the downtime and the huge tech problems that prevent the games from going fluid, however once the community figures that sort of stuff out I'm sure it could make a really good spectator sport.
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I think unless someone kills and blame sc2 they wont notice it ... =X
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On October 02 2010 22:01 Coeus1 wrote:
Sad to say this, but watching people play computer games that I don't play myself is boring.
I love to watch SC2 and Counter-Strike because I play them. But watching street fighter or some other game I don't play - no way for more than 10 minutes. Football is way more fun to watch.
Don't know how they manage to pull it off in korea... all I can think of is different culture.
lots of people play sc2 in korea though, and girls watch it because they like to see the men that own at starcraft.
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wow, this is a huge step, why haven't anyone talked about this o_0 ?
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If the BBC covered Starcraft, my life would be complete
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Coverage is also largely related to what comes down the news wires, rather than what the journalists go out and get.
Hence we get coverage of E3, Halo releases, and even SC2 release as all these things have PR agents pushing updates out to the press.
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On October 02 2010 21:08 canikizu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2010 20:58 yomi wrote:
thousands of viewers is honestly nothing. lumberjack, eating, spelling, poker, and strongman competitions absolutely dwarf SC2 viewership numbers. Then why the heck do people talk about a football game? Ten of thousands is a lot.
Because millions watch football games every sunday?
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be superb, beats idiots running kikcing balls.
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Only ever time I've seen gaming mentioned on the BBC was when Apollo won WCG gold for us in CnC3, and that was still a tiny spec.
British society still doesn't really accept it as more than a fun activity, we will be waiting quite a while for anything E-Sports related to appear on the TV.
Look at Xleague.tv that collapsed after only a few months in business, the viewer base just isn't there.
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On October 02 2010 21:01 SmoKim wrote:
i heard rumours about Eurosport concidering it for IEM, but it didn't happen
it actually happened yesterday.
but it wasn't that interesting imho... was about 30minutes long, they said they're going to accompany one player on each IEM event.
so the first one was about the global challenge in shanghai and they followed the leader of the fnatic.MSI CS 1.6 squad.
you got to know very little about the games, it was just like "I'm doing this and that ingame, telling people where to go, putting all the information we get together to the fitting strategy" that was about everything about the actual game... the rest was just "now they're going to eat", "now they're in the hotel getting ready for the next day", "now they won 16:14", "and now 16:4"...
so it's probably nothing a regular visitor of TL would be interested in i guess and the fact that it was broadcasted at around midnight (after a bowling match, lol) makes sure nobody else is going to see it and gets interested...
next episode is going to be about the IEM in cologne and they said they're going to cover SC2 and Quake live
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CNN did that interview with Idra for the release of Starcraft 2. BBC covered the Matchfixing scandal. However, them covering things like the winner of the GSL just isn't really possible unless it's a special interest article they run every once in a while.
Think about it, they don't even cover sports like MMA and barely touch on most American sports. All these things are still far more popular than starcraft, and involve far more money. The only time Starcraft gets covered is either in some totally random idiotic peice on video game addiction, or as part of some "hur hur" xenophobic peice on how weird asians are taking PC games seriously as a sport.
The West just isn't ready for Esports yet, and England is still lagging way behind Germany and Sweden in this respect.
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On October 02 2010 22:01 Coeus1 wrote:
Sad to say this, but watching people play computer games that I don't play myself is boring.
I love to watch SC2 and Counter-Strike because I play them. But watching street fighter or some other game I don't play - no way for more than 10 minutes. Football is way more fun to watch.
Don't know how they manage to pull it off in korea... all I can think of is different culture.
It's all got to do with the 'viewability' of the game. Some games are less audience-friendly so would only be appreciated a lot by people who play it. But SC and SC2 are not like that. I haven't played either of them and I've been following both for some years now, and I'm not alone either!
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On October 02 2010 22:01 Coeus1 wrote:
Sad to say this, but watching people play computer games that I don't play myself is boring.
I love to watch SC2 and Counter-Strike because I play them. But watching street fighter or some other game I don't play - no way for more than 10 minutes. Football is way more fun to watch.
Don't know how they manage to pull it off in korea... all I can think of is different culture.
I think the reason it could be that way though is because E-sport games generally is much more complex then real sports. If you do not know what is happening on the screen or understand why the player does like he does and why it's a good or bad move much of the entertainment is obviously lost.
You don't need to be a football player to enjoy football because there's not much to it. Try to get the ball in the goal and win. There's strategy involved of course but you don't really need to know or be able to relate to that to enjoy it.
Strategy games like starcraft is mostly about the strategy part so you need more knowledge.
If the game is big enough that it is common knowledge to know enough to enjoy watching a game one might start hoping it will be as successful as in Korea. I mean I enjoyed watching starcraft for years even though I was a wc3 player and barely played BW, you just need a basic grasp of the game. In the current state you kind of have to be a gamer to get that basic knowledge which is a problem.
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Darts has about 500 times the viewership of SC2 in the UK. So, yeah.
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On October 02 2010 22:57 thespitfire wrote:
be superb, beats idiots running kikcing balls.
They may or may not be idiots, but there is a surprising amount of strategy in football, as well as immense skill in the higher levels, it's really engaging to watch.
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On October 02 2010 22:28 SmoKim wrote:wow, this is a huge step, why haven't anyone talked about this o_0 ?
They talked about this on these forums already, but it is uninteresting until they show live IEM coverage. During the IEM there was nothing on eurosport so i stopped thinking about it.
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