EPTWho cares if its a bug, when its around since early beta stages and worked fine? Thats how u create artificial imbalances ...
Oh I hate to be Zerg atm.
Ultralisk bug/issue with patch 1.1.1 - Page 32
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ch4ppi
Germany802 Posts
Who cares if its a bug, when its around since early beta stages and worked fine? Thats how u create artificial imbalances ... Oh I hate to be Zerg atm. | ||
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
Edit: Rogue sword specialization was one, I'm sure there was a few more. | ||
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lololol
5198 Posts
On October 01 2010 19:28 frucisky wrote: The latest blue post on this issue: Basically, they had meant it to be this way since beta!! What's stupid is that they base balance changes with this bug in mind and now they remove the 'bug', completely neutering the ultra. Why couldn't they have either made it clearer in the patch notes rather than denying this for so long! More importantly, why couldn't they have recognised this bug earlier. They didn't made it clear in the patch notes, because they did not know about it at all, that's why they were denying it for so long. They did "a little extra tracking" long after the players started complaining that they don't even know how their own game works. | ||
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IrVeNoJu
Poland61 Posts
- dmg and -splash range. I've already uninstalled SC2 like 5 days ago and prolly I wont buy HotS either. | ||
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mathemagician1986
Germany549 Posts
This game gives me more frustration than fun playing it  | ||
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Ekko
United States72 Posts
Here comes the new developer or group of developers as the game goes into maintenance mode. These guys are apparently not all that big into testing. They see wow this ram ability is really odd and doesn't quite fit what we want the ultralisk to do, it's odd it was even here in the first place. In the code it looks like it was just kinda added on, lets get rid of it. We get 1.1 ultralisk from this. All of the sudden they realize the splash damage is a bit out of hand, now they realize why ram was in there. Instead of saying wow we screwed up, they try a fix that will not work. $5 says they can not find a fix that will ever bring the ultralisk back to 1.0 without putting ram back in because the original developer probably tried a variety of things before adding ram. | ||
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SkCom
Canada229 Posts
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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Glockateer
United States254 Posts
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
On October 01 2010 07:08 fdsdfg wrote: The original ultra was only 20 damage, splash was smaller (splash was what it is now), it didn't have speed, it had 50 more hp, and it was affected by slow/stun. Then they had the splash change.. they changed the damage to the 15+35 armored, nerfed the hp to 400, then gave them back 50 hp, immunity to slow/stun, and the speed upgrade for free. Then they took off 5 damage to armored and changed the splash back to original. It's much better than it was at the beginning of beta. Does that really matter how bad Ultra was? It's same as saying Thor had 100hp in the begining, then they buffed to 400hp and now nerfed to 200hp. So Thor has twice as much hp as in the Beta, but is the Thor good with 200hp lol ? Ultra got 5hp nerf in the patch, and now splash nerf without any intend to nerf it, cause blizzard made that accidently, imo they should at least immediatly return 5 dmg to Ultras now. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On October 02 2010 02:33 Alpina wrote: Does that really matter how bad Ultra was? It's same as saying Thor had 100hp in the begining, then they buffed to 400hp and now nerfed to 200hp. So Thor has twice as much hp as in the Beta, but is the Thor good with 200hp lol ? Ultra got 5hp nerf in the patch, and now splash nerf without any intend to nerf it, cause blizzard made that accidently, imo they should at least immediatly return 5 dmg to Ultras now. they should immediatly return the splash to what it was. it worked fine and made the ultra the saving grace of countless ZvX games for several months. k it was unintended by them (nice playtesting blizz) but it was good. blizz just shows again and again how stubborn they are. but i lost my hope in the company anyways. if this wasnt sc2 i wouldve quit long ago just because their pure idiocy rages me out again and again. | ||
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atdsutm
Philippines23 Posts
revert old splash damage radius and return ram ability with better damage (ram was removed for a nonsense reason) | ||
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
On October 02 2010 03:52 atdsutm wrote: a possible solution is revert old splash damage radius and return ram ability with better damage (ram was removed for a nonsense reason) Actually yes ram animation was pretty cool, if they thought that its damage was very similar then they could simply increase the damage of ram. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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1a2a3aPro
Canada227 Posts
On October 02 2010 02:31 Glockateer wrote: I find it funny that if a terran cries it is patched in a week. If a zerg cries it is thrown in the well and forgotten. I find it funny that you don't watch tournament VODs. They patched it because a player with a significant economic advantage and unit advantage STILL got thrashed by ultralisks and lost so many SCVs trying to repair the PF. The splash was an issue on buildings like CCs. It demonstrated a very serious issue. Analogy to a terran problem please? Nothing is that powerful TvZ. Also, I love how people say Ultralisks were almost OP... after in the beta everyone said they were useless. Got the balance right this time boys? Know what's OP for sure? Every few months some individuals (let's be honest, most), bitch that some unit is underpowered than later they say they are overpowered. Why not just play the fricking game? If you're not a higher level diamond player [I am], you have no sense in discussion what is too powerful [I don't, for the most part, except in obvious cases like the ultralisk building splash] | ||
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hyped
United States135 Posts
On October 02 2010 05:02 1a2a3aPro wrote: I find it funny that you don't watch tournament VODs. They patched it because a player with a significant economic advantage and unit advantage STILL got thrashed by ultralisks and lost so many SCVs trying to repair the PF. The splash was an issue on buildings like CCs. It demonstrated a very serious issue. Analogy to a terran problem please? Nothing is that powerful TvZ. Significant eco advantage? Cool had 90 drones over 4 bases vs Top's 3 bases, also cool was sitting on a measly 140~ roach ling baneling army that he stalled with till hive tech, the best analogy I can think of is a terran with 120 food of just marines/scvs throwing down 5 starports and building bc's while doing drops everywhere and hoping to not get attacked till 200/200 Also, I love how people say Ultralisks were almost OP... after in the beta everyone said they were useless. Got the balance right this time boys? Know what's OP for sure? Every few months some individuals (let's be honest, most), bitch that some unit is underpowered than later they say they are overpowered. Why not just play the fricking game? If you're not a higher level diamond player [I am], you have no sense in discussion what is too powerful [I don't, for the most part, except in obvious cases like the ultralisk building splash] Ultralisks have been buffed a ton since beta, if they didnt have +armored, where mc/stun/snareable, still needed speed to be researched, and didnt break forcefields, I think most people would still agree that they were underpowered, not sure why you just ignored all those changes... | ||
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Ekko
United States72 Posts
Ultralisks should be nerfed so they can't hit ground as well. Ok that sounds pretty rude but really it gets old hearing this over and over. Ultralisks take forever to tech to, take forever to make, and can't hit air. To beat ultralisks micro is needed or an overwhelming unit advantage, or two banshees. | ||
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theSAiNT
United States726 Posts
On October 02 2010 06:10 Ekko wrote: Common face it, anything that can almost beat a terran unit by just 1a is WAY too overpowered for terran players. Even if it takes a crazy amount of tech and can't hit air. Ultralisks should be nerfed so they can't hit ground as well. Ok that sounds pretty rude but really it gets old hearing this over and over. Ultralisks take forever to tech to, take forever to make, and can't hit air. To beat ultralisks micro is needed or an overwhelming unit advantage, or two banshees. One banshee... | ||
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DoomSpirit
France46 Posts
Guess my "on the move" conclusion to not use them anymore was a good idea. | ||
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