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unifo
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada65 Posts
September 30 2010 04:09 GMT
#81
On September 30 2010 08:12 NEOtheONE wrote:
What about promotions? Every time you get promoted your point total drops. I was placed in bronze, and I have worked my way all the way up to Platinum. Going by your math I have 945 points - 890 bonus pool + 28 points unused = 83. The best platinum player in my division only has 1129 - 890 +9 = 248. And the 2nd ranked one has 1031 - 890 + 53 = 194. That seems really really low, especially given 165-132 55.6% for the best, 138-116 53.9% for the second, and 153-135 53% for me.


Due to the drop of points (or gain of points for that matter) when moving up or down from a division, another rule of standardization is probably needed to take into account of this phenomena (if this idea somehow gets going)

Assuming that when you move up a division, u lose 100 points, a sample standardization correction maybe as follows:

Bronze +0 pts
Silver: +100 pts
Gold: +200 pts
Plat: +300 pts
Diamond: +400 pts

Maybe with this rule, (with adjustments), this could help compare players in different leagues.

Then again I might be opening another can of worms here.
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SharkSpider
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada606 Posts
September 30 2010 04:24 GMT
#82
On September 30 2010 13:09 unifo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2010 08:12 NEOtheONE wrote:
What about promotions? Every time you get promoted your point total drops. I was placed in bronze, and I have worked my way all the way up to Platinum. Going by your math I have 945 points - 890 bonus pool + 28 points unused = 83. The best platinum player in my division only has 1129 - 890 +9 = 248. And the 2nd ranked one has 1031 - 890 + 53 = 194. That seems really really low, especially given 165-132 55.6% for the best, 138-116 53.9% for the second, and 153-135 53% for me.


Due to the drop of points (or gain of points for that matter) when moving up or down from a division, another rule of standardization is probably needed to take into account of this phenomena (if this idea somehow gets going)

Assuming that when you move up a division, u lose 100 points, a sample standardization correction maybe as follows:

Bronze +0 pts
Silver: +100 pts
Gold: +200 pts
Plat: +300 pts
Diamond: +400 pts

Maybe with this rule, (with adjustments), this could help compare players in different leagues.

Then again I might be opening another can of worms here.

A 2000 bronze is nowhere near as good as a 1600 Diamond, so don't bother lol.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12256 Posts
September 30 2010 04:26 GMT
#83
On September 30 2010 13:09 unifo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2010 08:12 NEOtheONE wrote:
What about promotions? Every time you get promoted your point total drops. I was placed in bronze, and I have worked my way all the way up to Platinum. Going by your math I have 945 points - 890 bonus pool + 28 points unused = 83. The best platinum player in my division only has 1129 - 890 +9 = 248. And the 2nd ranked one has 1031 - 890 + 53 = 194. That seems really really low, especially given 165-132 55.6% for the best, 138-116 53.9% for the second, and 153-135 53% for me.


Due to the drop of points (or gain of points for that matter) when moving up or down from a division, another rule of standardization is probably needed to take into account of this phenomena (if this idea somehow gets going)

Assuming that when you move up a division, u lose 100 points, a sample standardization correction maybe as follows:

Bronze +0 pts
Silver: +100 pts
Gold: +200 pts
Plat: +300 pts
Diamond: +400 pts

Maybe with this rule, (with adjustments), this could help compare players in different leagues.

Then again I might be opening another can of worms here.


You are opening another can of worms here, because the change in rating is not known and is different for everyone. Vanick lost 8 points, I lost 63. From my match history tracking file:

***** PROMOTION: 1v1 Diamond Araq Echo

** Bonus Pool post-promotion: 184
** Bonus Pool consumed thus far: 201
** Points pre-promotion: 337 (14-9)
** Points post-promotion: 274 (15-9)

There's definitely no hard and fast rule, and it may take a complete and total understanding of the inner workings of the system before we can ever hope to compare points across leagues.
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NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
October 01 2010 03:49 GMT
#84
Well to expound upon this I was at around 1000 points each time I was promoted and dropped to 800ish after being promoted. I know I lost about 150 points when I was promoted to platinum.
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