Unconfirmed Patch 1.1 Notes - Page 29

On September 16 2010 22:43 okrane wrote:
Really awesome changes right there.

Adresses many of the Zerg problems:
- lack of scouting => ovie speed
- hydra slowness => ovie creep highway
- early game pressure => nerf to MULE and Chrono as well as nerf to reapers and zealots.
- rarely used nydus => cancel available.

Dunno about the Ultralisk nerf. Yes they are very strong, but being pretty slow and melee range makes them very abusable. Guess we shall see...

On September 16 2010 22:46 Bensio wrote:


Ultras are super fast on creep, u ever used em?

On September 16 2010 22:32 Klive5ive wrote:
Yeah the response has been really positive.
Considering patch notes usually cause MASSIVE crying, even when they're justified (like the roach nerf).
These "fake" notes must be the most reasonable ever!

On September 16 2010 22:51 EchOne wrote:
These notes are not real and will not be implemented.

Hypothetically, if the changes actually did warrant discussion:

Creating a cooldown for CB and MULE is not an idea I agree with. All it does is limit options. The only purpose I see is to force players to mechanically use the ability every time it's off cooldown, like clockwork. That's pointless though, since when players choose to use the ability at all times possible, doing so is trivially easy.

The Overlord changes seem rather drastic. They basically ensure uncontested scouting of any region lacking enemy air-to-air, and almost unstoppable connectivity between bases. I like how Overlord scouting and creep spreading work as some of Zerg's key strengths at the moment, but I'm unsure if they should be strengthened. At the very least, I prefer Creep Tumors to ubiquitous Overlord creep spreading, since tying this passive ground control to buildings allows it to be contested.

On September 16 2010 18:10 bleen wrote:
Warning this was leaked on US forums after 20min blue post deleted thread this means it must be legit and it means US blue post are more active than EU am i surpised? no this just means this thread will stay alive longer

Maps
- Destructible Rocks have been added to the natural expansions of Desert Oasis, and the center has been narrowed.
- Various ladder maps have been added.

General
- Ground Units of type Psionic now have vision in the air plane.

Protoss
- Zealot build time increased from 33 to 38 seconds.
- Zealot warp-in cooldown increased from 23 to 28 seconds.
- Warp Prisms now unload their cargo instantly while in Phasing Mode.
- Chronoboost cooldown increased from 0 to 20 seconds.
- Dark Shrine build time decreased from 100 to 80.
- Dark Shrine cost decreased from 100 minerals 250 gas to 100 minerals 200 gas.
- Carrier cost increased from 350 minerals 250 gas to 400 minerals 250 gas.
- Carriers now spawn with four Interceptors prebuilt.

Terran
- Reaper build time increased from 40 to 45 seconds.
- Bunker build time increased from 30 to 35 seconds.
- Siege Mode damage decreased from 50 to 35, +15 armored.
- Siege Mode damage upgrades per level changed from +5 to +3, +2 vs. armored.
- Battlecruiser damage vs. ground decreased from 10 to 8.
- Calldown MULE cooldown increased from 0 to 40 seconds.
- Planetary Fortress build time decreased from 50 to 40 seconds.
- 250 mm Cannons research time decreased from 110 to 80 seconds.
- 250 mm Cannons cost decreased from 150 minerals 150 gas to 100 minerals 100 gas.
- 250 mm Cannons may now be used on friendly and neutral structures and units.

Zerg
- Ultralisk damage decreased from 15, +25 vs. armored to 15, +20 vs. armored.
- Ultralisk Ram attack removed.
- Nydus Worms can now be cancelled and refunded while building.
- Overlord base speed increased to from 0.469 to 0.938.
- Overlord upgraded speed increase from 1.875 to 2.344.
- Overlords can now use Excrete Creep while moving.
- Overlord base speed now decreases from 0.938 to 0.469 while Excrete Creep is active.
- Overlord upgraded speed now decreased from 2.344 to 1.875 while Excrete Creep is active.
- Spawn Larvae energy cost reduced to 20 from 25.

Bugfixes
- Fixed a bug that caused cloaked units to cast shadows.
- Fixed a bug where Larva would sometimes accidently die by walking off cliffs.
- Fixed a bug where a Nuclear Strike target could be hid behind a Lair.
- Fixed a bug that allowed SCVs to construct halted buildings from within Bunkers.
- Fixed a netcode bug that enabled players to warp in Immortals from Warp Gates.
- Fixed a bug that caused Random players to not see their cursor during the loading screen.
- Fixed a bug where Changelings morphed slower while coming into range of enemy units than when dropped from an Overseer over enemy units.

General
- Improved the functionality of voice chat.
- Manually queued waypoints can now be set to all 5 basic commands.
- Numerous performance and stability improvements.

source: http://www.goodgame.ru/read_topic.php?t=17450&pg=0

On September 16 2010 18:15 Mato wrote:
Assuming these are real...

- Various ladder maps have been added.

Fantastic.

- Calldown MULE cooldown increased from 0 to 40 seconds.

As a T, more than welcome. 40s i assume is to bring it in line with Spawn larva - that is you miss one, you can't that lost time up. Makes the macro mechanic much less forgiving and makes good t's standout. Subtle nerf but necessary.

On September 16 2010 20:03 101TFP wrote:


finally i can accidentally shoot my own units with it. been waiting for that.

Creating a cooldown for CB and MULE is not an idea I agree with. All it does is limit options. The only purpose I see is to force players to mechanically use the ability every time it's off cooldown, like clockwork. That's pointless though, since when players choose to use the ability at all times possible, doing so is trivially easy.

On September 16 2010 22:51 EchOne wrote:
These notes are not real and will not be implemented.

Hypothetically, if the changes actually did warrant discussion:

Creating a cooldown for CB and MULE is not an idea I agree with. All it does is limit options. The only purpose I see is to force players to mechanically use the ability every time it's off cooldown, like clockwork. That's pointless though, since when players choose to use the ability at all times possible, doing so is trivially easy.

On September 16 2010 22:43 okrane wrote:
Really awesome changes right there.

Adresses many of the Zerg problems:
- lack of scouting => ovie speed
- hydra slowness => ovie creep highway
- early game pressure => nerf to MULE and Chrono as well as nerf to reapers and zealots.
- rarely used nydus => cancel available.

Dunno about the Ultralisk nerf. Yes they are very strong, but being pretty slow and melee range makes them very abusable. Guess we shall see...

On September 16 2010 22:59 Weasel- wrote:
This is obviously wrong, carriers have come with 4 built interceptors since release at least. Psionuc units seeing up cliffs sounds like a very stupid change, it's already incredibly easy to see up cliffs.