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FireHazard
Profile Joined August 2010
United States54 Posts
September 12 2010 21:25 GMT
#121
Sockfolding is an awesome name for a technique. I had a hard enough time learning to split my workers... time to learn something new again
CyberPitz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States428 Posts
September 12 2010 21:25 GMT
#122
On September 13 2010 06:04 pzea469 wrote:
what happens if u just select all your probes and keep clicking C? Cuz wouldnt they automatically head back to mine again if once theyve dropped off their cargo? or am i wrong?

I'd like to know this, also....

What if we just kept clicking on the spot where the "Return Cargo" button appears, and spamming C whenever we can on all of the workers? Would this effectively do the same thing?
iEchoic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1776 Posts
September 12 2010 21:26 GMT
#123
On September 13 2010 06:25 wxwx wrote:
boring repetitive crap. I spend my mining time chatting with friends/opponent, grabbing a drink, or whatever.. And now you're saying I can't anymore?

Probably not gonna GL HF anymore too. That would put me back 20 minerals.


Heh, yeah. I didn't even think about this. Guess I'm done chatting at the start of games.

This should really be patched.
vileEchoic -- clanvile.com
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
September 12 2010 21:26 GMT
#124
Fuck this indeed works. A player that gets used to this can get quite an advantage over other players but...

For the sake of removing redundant shit from the game I hope this gets fixed. This is just so... ah god, now everyone needs to have like 300 apm early game just because of this crap. I hate redundant tasks like this. There's nothing strategical about them, nothing. Just "let's see who can click faster biatch!"
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
ltortoise
Profile Joined August 2010
633 Posts
September 12 2010 21:27 GMT
#125
On September 13 2010 06:25 wxwx wrote:
boring repetitive crap. I spend my mining time chatting with friends/opponent, grabbing a drink, or whatever.. And now you're saying I can't anymore?

Probably not gonna GL HF anymore too. That would put me back 20 minerals.

IMO this is bad for the game.. This isn't really micro, since you have nothing to micro against. It's basically just routine spamming that anyone can do with practice. There's no split-second decision making or reaction micro... It's just a predetermined clicking routine... Might as well award minerals to the player who types the alphabet backwards while droning... That's "keyboard skill" too am i right?



YES! Anybody who types the alphabet backwards during the game should be awarded 20 bonus minerals.

This makes sense because it's a complex meta-game decision on whether or not you have the time to type the full alphabet before getting interrupted.

I recommend this feature be added immediately.
bobblansky
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden13 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 21:28:32
September 12 2010 21:28 GMT
#126
lol, fun that some ppl are complaining about this, i like it. as someone pointed out it gives us a new micro element! CS2 really shaves off alot of micro compared to sc1/bw, so im thinking this could be nice. Will be patched tho, im sure

gg
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 12 2010 21:28 GMT
#127
VERY interesting. VERY useful. Youtube video by any chance? :D
humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
September 12 2010 21:28 GMT
#128
Blizzard might have to patch this simply because of the mule. Other than that its no big deal to me, and I'll use "sockfolding" too of course :p
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 12 2010 21:29 GMT
#129
iirc there was something similar in War3. Blizzard, really?
blabberrrrr
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
September 12 2010 21:29 GMT
#130
I think if you end a sequence of commands with C it returns cargo and then goes back to it's previous task (in this case, mining), doesn't it?

I mean, when I send guys to gas initially, I right click 3 guys on my geyser and then hit C, which makes any of them that have minerals return them and then they go mine gas normally, despite C being the last command.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
September 12 2010 21:30 GMT
#131
On September 13 2010 06:25 wxwx wrote:
boring repetitive crap. I spend my mining time chatting with friends/opponent, grabbing a drink, or whatever.. And now you're saying I can't anymore?

Probably not gonna GL HF anymore too. That would put me back 20 minerals.

IMO this is bad for the game.. This isn't really micro, since you have nothing to micro against. It's basically just routine spamming that anyone can do with practice. There's no split-second decision making or reaction micro... It's just a predetermined clicking routine... Might as well award minerals to the player who types the alphabet backwards while droning... That's "keyboard skill" too am i right?


Let me summarise this:

"I'm lazy."
CooLMaN
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel4 Posts
September 12 2010 21:32 GMT
#132
How about; this is a game I play for fun, and mashing buttons is not fun.
Melancholia
Profile Joined March 2010
United States717 Posts
September 12 2010 21:32 GMT
#133
Wanting to chat with my opponent in the beginning will actually hurt my economy now? No, this needs to be patched out. What if the pause between attacks for units wasn't mandatory and you could attack as fast as you clicked? That would be fun, spam clicking every battle...
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
September 12 2010 21:32 GMT
#134
On September 13 2010 06:29 blabber wrote:
iirc there was something similar in War3. Blizzard, really?


Humans and Orcs did cause their gold mine was like a vespene geyser, and you could speed up the returning when you had 4 or less workers mining. It was only useful before you put your 5th worker on the gold mine though, and everyone very quickly wanted to get their 5th worker to get the optimal mining amount where the mine was occupied all the time.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
September 12 2010 21:32 GMT
#135
this is kind of a cool find, but im glad it won't really be seen/required at my level of play (~700 diamond). it'll be cool to see how this affects higher-tier players though
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 21:39:35
September 12 2010 21:34 GMT
#136


Literally anybody could do this if they put enough time into doing it. You could actually train an ape to do it. Getting good at doing this says nothing about your RTS skills. It says nothing about your thought process. Literally the only thing it does is signal that you've practiced it a lot.


You couldn't train an ape to stop doing it though based on the current state of the game.

On September 13 2010 06:02 ltortoise wrote:
Sure, but name any other macro mechanic in SC2 that works like that. Every single macro mechanic I can think of involves choice. There is no choice here except to do it as often as possible without sacrificing bigger parts of your game.


In ideology, yes, but in practice, no, because all the SC2 macro mechanics are designed and balanced around being used. Its suboptimal player, up until very very very late game, to not inject Hatches. It doesn't scale heavily with skill, beyond a certain point. You watch Idra player, and unless he screws up (like IEM game 5), he almost never misses until he gets more then 3 bases.

This mechanic allows for a third dynamic, skill, because it exists as purely a metagame element.


Imagine the optimal SC2 player: he would be perfectly doing this all the time, endlessly, throughout the entire game. Impossible and stupid. It makes SC2 absolutely ugly. Yuck.


But noone could possibly DO THAT.



YES! Anybody who types the alphabet backwards during the game should be awarded 20 bonus minerals.

This makes sense because it's a complex meta-game decision on whether or not you have the time to type the full alphabet before getting interrupted.

I recommend this feature be added immediately.


What is wrong with you? That isn't a metagame element because there is no way typing the alphabet backwards would do anything without making a game mechanic to specifically make that happen.
Too Busy to Troll!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
September 12 2010 21:34 GMT
#137
Video please.

sounds interesting.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
September 12 2010 21:36 GMT
#138
I cannot see how peopl are whining, because of this.

You will almost never lose a game, because your opponent uses this technique and you dont use it, unless you are some progamer. And progamers have enough APM to pull it off and it gives them a small edge - the small edges they are searching for anyway.

I think it's similiar to this:
Player A sets the rallypoint of his Hatch/Nexus/CC once
vs
Player B sets the rallypoint of his Hatch/Nexus/CC each time a new worker pops out, so the new workers never have to run away from their initial mineral patches to others and can start mining immediately thus increasing income.

It's a small edge just like the "socketfolding" But you also will never lose a game, because of this if you are not extreme highlevel where every small bit matters.
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 21:39:16
September 12 2010 21:38 GMT
#139
On September 13 2010 06:08 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2010 06:06 Zozo wrote:
Playing ZvZ with extra drones, do want. In fact, this shits on current low econ ZvZ.


Lol good luck on microing drones and keeping track of your ling/baneling at the same time.


You tried doing this yet? It's not THAT hard. Besides, all you need is 2 extra drones and you will win from there.
EGM guides me
hyped
Profile Joined April 2010
United States135 Posts
September 12 2010 21:38 GMT
#140
lol everyone's doing this already, just box selected my opponents drones in a replay and saw the green bulbs on his minerals
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