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Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
September 12 2010 19:56 GMT
#21
This basically shaves off 6-12 seconds of all early game timings, certainly a must for everyone who is that serious.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
September 12 2010 19:56 GMT
#22
This is awesome. I love all the tricks people are slowly discovering.

The best thing about it is you would need absolutely ludicrous apm to keep this up on several bases while microing an army. So it forces players to decide how to divide their attention, and raises the mechanical skill cap.

Easy to play, hard to master was what Blizzard was going for in this game, right? Well, here's a perfect example--literally no skill is required to mine at baseline effectiveness, but if you've got the apm for it, you can exceed that effectiveness.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
September 12 2010 19:57 GMT
#23
On September 13 2010 04:54 dhe95 wrote:
You can't do this with all your scvs unless they all finish mining at the exact same time, so this will only work for a couple scvs earlygame, and it seems similar to what boxer used to do in BW

You can queue this up, so you can do it with all of them.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
September 12 2010 19:58 GMT
#24
what the FUUUCK

someone make a video guide of this, this is mindblowing
Icx
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Belgium853 Posts
September 12 2010 19:59 GMT
#25
Amazing if this actually works, gonna be testing it soon.

Altough I have the feeling that this will be in a future patch:
"worker AI has been optimized so they return their minerals faster"

And then I will cry ;_;
asdfjh
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada230 Posts
September 12 2010 19:59 GMT
#26
imagine proxy 2 gating with this
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
September 12 2010 19:59 GMT
#27
On September 13 2010 04:56 awesomoecalypse wrote:
This is awesome. I love all the tricks people are slowly discovering.

The best thing about it is you would need absolutely ludicrous apm to keep this up on several bases while microing an army. So it forces players to decide how to divide their attention, and raises the mechanical skill cap.

Easy to play, hard to master was what Blizzard was going for in this game, right? Well, here's a perfect example--literally no skill is required to mine at baseline effectiveness, but if you've got the apm for it, you can exceed that effectiveness.

As the OP said, once bases are nearer to saturated this trick does not work. The only benefit would be to use the trick on mules in the late game. In fact, in the case of very saturated bases he stated that it would reduce income. So no, later in the game this trick will only raise the cap by a small amount(still a good thing though)
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
September 12 2010 19:59 GMT
#28
On September 13 2010 04:59 Icx wrote:
Amazing if this actually works, gonna be testing it soon.

Altough I have the feeling that this will be in a future patch:
"worker AI has been optimized so they return their minerals faster"

And then I will cry ;_;


There is about a 200% chance of that happening roughly. Remeber fazing?
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vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
September 12 2010 20:00 GMT
#29
On September 13 2010 04:59 Icx wrote:
Amazing if this actually works, gonna be testing it soon.

Altough I have the feeling that this will be in a future patch:
"worker AI has been optimized so they return their minerals faster"

And then I will cry ;_;

Kind of have that feeling too. It's obviously not intended to be like this, but hey, the NP infestor trick is still around, right?
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1110 Posts
September 12 2010 20:00 GMT
#30
Awesome awesome find dude! This reminds me of SC1 tricks like worker drills etc.
Playgu
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 20:01:29
September 12 2010 20:01 GMT
#31
This is probably the biggest micro trick discovered yet, and one I think has a good chance not to be patched, because it isn't really a bug at all, just the logical outcome of game mechanics.
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asdfjh
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada230 Posts
September 12 2010 20:01 GMT
#32
On September 13 2010 04:59 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2010 04:59 Icx wrote:
Amazing if this actually works, gonna be testing it soon.

Altough I have the feeling that this will be in a future patch:
"worker AI has been optimized so they return their minerals faster"

And then I will cry ;_;


There is about a 200% chance of that happening roughly. Remeber fazing?


but that was actually sooo exploitable. if you used an autoclicker you could insta kill any group down to 1 unit.
Parodoxx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States549 Posts
September 12 2010 20:01 GMT
#33
O gosh timing my builds down to a chrono boost is out the window, time to start all over again.

Time to buy a new book for notes
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 20:04:30
September 12 2010 20:03 GMT
#34
On September 13 2010 04:59 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2010 04:59 Icx wrote:
Amazing if this actually works, gonna be testing it soon.

Altough I have the feeling that this will be in a future patch:
"worker AI has been optimized so they return their minerals faster"

And then I will cry ;_;


There is about a 200% chance of that happening roughly. Remeber fazing?


I don't think so actually... that will change the dynamics/balance of the game. Increasing the mineral income for all races would almost certainly have unforeseen effects.

If they do fix this, they will just make the worker pause mandatory, as in not give you any way to remove the pause.
Ohdamn
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany765 Posts
September 12 2010 20:03 GMT
#35
wow 7% is pretty huge

gonna practise it for sure

thx OP!
"If you can chill....chill!"
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 20:05:17
September 12 2010 20:04 GMT
#36

There is about a 200% chance of that happening roughly. Remeber fazing?


Fazing was broken though. A group of Void Rays with sufficient clickspeed could vaporize an unlimited number of marines in seconds. Micro tricks are cool and all, but not when they wreck game balance.

A 7% bump if efficiency is big, but its not the ridiculously huge bump in efficiency that fazing gave Void Rays.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
McFoo
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
September 12 2010 20:05 GMT
#37
There was a similar thing in Warcraft 3 where human/orc players could farm gold slightly faster by microing their workers.

TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
September 12 2010 20:05 GMT
#38
Incredible find. Everyone must know this.
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snpnx
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany454 Posts
September 12 2010 20:06 GMT
#39
That sounds quite interesting and nice.
And quite unlike the fazing, the advantage is there but not THAT much exploitable, and Blizzard knows full well that these little tricks are what the community wants, so I actually do have a good feeling that they will leave it in.

It doesn't hurt the lower players, but it separates the good from the bad, it's quite a perfect find tbh.
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 20:10:01
September 12 2010 20:08 GMT
#40
cool find, but i absolutely got no motivation to do anything like this. id really hate if this became standard and kind of "required" in higher lvl play....

do the good players really have to be separated from the bad players by who can better click the heck out of his keyboard/mouse?
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