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Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
August 28 2010 21:45 GMT
#141
On August 29 2010 06:44 hadoken5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 06:41 ArvickHero wrote:
hmm do you not like TvZ and TvP from BW either?

No, Zerg wasn't as reactionary in BW.


Yes they were, the metagame was just more stable, and their were less things to react to.
Too Busy to Troll!
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 21:54:52
August 28 2010 21:53 GMT
#142
On August 29 2010 06:45 theqat wrote:
Tanks are a huge issue right now. Critical mass of tanks beats everything and that's a problem, no matter how difficult it is to get to critical mass


hive > tanks

P has no huge problem with tanks.

even tvt is way less about tanks then it ever was before.



where is the huge issue? and why is evryone playing bio heavy/pure bio if its so bad?



we have maps that are mostly perfect for tanks( and most people are still moving just one ball into tank lines) and still you see ppl driving away from tank play how can they be such a big issue then?
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analogkensho
Profile Joined June 2003
United States358 Posts
August 28 2010 21:56 GMT
#143
I was just going to come and ask this question, then I see this thread. :D

I haven't watched the whole tournament, but I was hoping for at least a bit of entertainment this afternoon. Uh, not so far. I truly haven't been excited by anything I've seen; Nothing memorable sticks in my mind.

There are some decent matches, but too many that are either over instantly due to a weird counter-timing-push, or something stupid like Voidrays.

And it's not like the "balance" even feels or looks off that much. Nothing seems stupidly imbalanced. However, I think the concerns that people voiced during beta, regarding SC2's possible failings as a great spectator game, are certainly turning out to have some weight to them.

Obviously this is mostly a subjective impression. I can only speak for myself, but though I can watch Day[9]'s dailies all day long, I'm not finding these tournament games interesting or exciting to watch at all.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
August 28 2010 21:58 GMT
#144
did you get bored only seeing tanks/vultures in BW TVP?

it's much more than just what units are used
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 28 2010 22:00 GMT
#145
On August 29 2010 06:44 hadoken5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 06:41 ArvickHero wrote:
hmm do you not like TvZ and TvP from BW either?

No, Zerg wasn't as reactionary in BW.

ehh I guess that would be correct, since they have at least some control over the gameflow lol
Writerptrk
charcute
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada419 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 22:02:47
August 28 2010 22:02 GMT
#146
There a some way to be still creative as a toss agaisnt a terran : proxy gate/canon, and of course fake build. As a Fake build make a Twilight Council then hide a templar archives unstead of a dark shrine. The terran will build raven, by the time you get storm and you got control of the game (it worked twice agains 650 diamond player).

From what i see, terran is a better race cause they can counter more quickly by moving facto and starport to tec lab/reactor.
I like to do it all night long
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 28 2010 22:03 GMT
#147
I agree with the OP in this thread, the MLG tournament is boring.

All these PvP games, clearly Zealots need to be nerfed.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 22:04:49
August 28 2010 22:03 GMT
#148
On August 29 2010 06:53 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 06:45 theqat wrote:
Tanks are a huge issue right now. Critical mass of tanks beats everything and that's a problem, no matter how difficult it is to get to critical mass


hive > tanks

P has no huge problem with tanks.

even tvt is way less about tanks then it ever was before.



where is the huge issue? and why is evryone playing bio heavy/pure bio if its so bad?



we have maps that are mostly perfect for tanks( and most people are still moving just one ball into tank lines) and still you see ppl driving away from tank play how can they be such a big issue then?


I didn't say bio was bad, smart guy. Terrans can do whatever they want and win because everything they have is overpowered. Go watch Strelok vs. Dimaga from 2-3 weeks back and see how tank critical mass kills what should counter it perfectly. Protoss don't have "no problem" with tanks, it's just that Terrans got too lazy to make them and micro them because bio works so well for so little effort

Anyway I know from your post history that you're incredibly thick and won't get it but smart people know that Blizzard is doing the right thing and we'll all look back on your foolishness and laugh later
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 22:06:59
August 28 2010 22:06 GMT
#149
On August 29 2010 04:40 cr4ckshot wrote:
If you want to see innovative play, big money tournaments aren't the source. You may get a glimpse of creative plays, but that's pretty much it.


*cough*TLO*cough*

On August 29 2010 07:03 Ketara wrote:
I agree with the OP in this thread, the MLG tournament is boring.

All these PvP games, clearly Zealots need to be nerfed.


Uhhhh....
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Demarini
Profile Joined May 2010
United States151 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 22:19:50
August 28 2010 22:11 GMT
#150
On August 29 2010 04:44 Rea-Rea wrote:
How to beat a terran going MMM against protoss...

Storm, collosi, stalkers, immortals. Storm is key.


Yea, let's just magically poof all those units to our base and research everything. Timing pushes will never happen. I've tried it all, and really, I lose probably 75% of the time against MMM. Today I got early Colossi, got an observer out, saw medivacs going for a drop and raped them. Check the observer...everything is almost replenished at his base. Ok...so I keep pumping out Colossi, I don't see any Vikings coming out, and I figure if he does, my ground forces should steamroll the MMM because he'll have to cut that. Well he get's about 9 vikings which dominate my Colossi within seconds, nothing my stalkers could do about it. His ground forces, well after watching the replay his 4 rax never stopped producing, so they were as they would be. I get rolled. I completely outplay him, take out a HUGE portion of his army from the drop, and I lose because he got MMM+Vikings...all off one base. I don't think the kid even had stim.

Edit- And for a race that has been known to have fairly week anti-air, it seem kind of stupid to have air-to-air only units be able to shoot their money unit down.
Jaug
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden249 Posts
August 28 2010 22:17 GMT
#151
Watching Augustwerra vs SKS, thewind and thestc vs reniehour all korean pro game replays from sc2rep.com I was more entertained than i've been the entire mlg. I'm starting to believe PvP is almost as boring as ZvZ.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 22:18:15
August 28 2010 22:18 GMT
#152
On August 29 2010 07:03 theqat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 06:53 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
On August 29 2010 06:45 theqat wrote:
Tanks are a huge issue right now. Critical mass of tanks beats everything and that's a problem, no matter how difficult it is to get to critical mass


hive > tanks

P has no huge problem with tanks.

even tvt is way less about tanks then it ever was before.



where is the huge issue? and why is evryone playing bio heavy/pure bio if its so bad?



we have maps that are mostly perfect for tanks( and most people are still moving just one ball into tank lines) and still you see ppl driving away from tank play how can they be such a big issue then?


I didn't say bio was bad, smart guy. Terrans can do whatever they want and win because everything they have is overpowered. Go watch Strelok vs. Dimaga from 2-3 weeks back and see how tank critical mass kills what should counter it perfectly. Protoss don't have "no problem" with tanks, it's just that Terrans got too lazy to make them and micro them because bio works so well for so little effort

Anyway I know from your post history that you're incredibly thick and won't get it but smart people know that Blizzard is doing the right thing and we'll all look back on your foolishness and laugh later


sorry that im not into crying constantly about balance or am as biased as you.

all i see is " QQ T totally unbeatable. evrything totally OP!" and some random flames/taunts. if you post like that then the bnet forums might be a better place for you. :>





finals over! overall good tournament. bit boring at the end and playerbase couldve been better but still great entertainment overall. IEM was better from the setup,casting,games and players. but mlg was till great stuff and im glad that sc2 is slowly kicking off now.






life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
nemahsys
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada457 Posts
August 28 2010 22:19 GMT
#153
you started a thread to bash on the MLG then talked about how much you hate terran for a page and a half.

This thread is a complete waste.
DJ Wheat, if you read this, plz get Lo3 back on itunes stat!
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
August 28 2010 22:20 GMT
#154
bio is so bad againt speedlot+HT's - when will P learn and stop making collossi+gateway-allins?
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 28 2010 22:20 GMT
#155
Just watched the finals and yea, it was REALLY boring. I haven't seen anything this boring for a while. 1 base all ins zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 22:25:05
August 28 2010 22:23 GMT
#156
Go watch Strelok vs. Dimaga from 2-3 weeks back


Was that a joke, or were you being serious? :/

Protoss don't have "no problem" with tanks, it's just that Terrans got too lazy to make them and micro them because bio works so well for so little effort


So your implying that the current progamers who practive an average of 8 hours a day are too "lazy" to use optimal strategies.

rly.
Too Busy to Troll!
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
August 28 2010 22:24 GMT
#157
1 base infestor rush by slush was so boring, same build as always.


Oh wait....
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
KovuTalli
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom325 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 22:27:31
August 28 2010 22:26 GMT
#158
Tbh unless Terran go Full mech, Bio is really the only other option (for "Standard" play) especially with the upcoming Siege "nerf" (30+15armored) and BC nerf 10 down to 8. It almost seems like the devs want Terran to go "omfg imba bio" strats. As air units are pretty much like paper (BC's not counting.) For this reason im probably going to roll zerg. - This is in reply to the "Terran Imba", "omg Terran only bio" posts. As far as the MLG goes iv only watched one or two games - probably boring (seen too many husky/HD casts on youtube so gets pretty boring, no offence to either of them.)
"Milk tastes like milk" - Raelcun.
carwashguy
Profile Joined June 2009
United States175 Posts
August 28 2010 22:28 GMT
#159
On August 29 2010 04:34 hadoken5 wrote:
Is the MLG the most boring tournament yet?

No.
Spaceball
Profile Joined November 2007
United States213 Posts
August 28 2010 22:28 GMT
#160
I enjoyed the tournament. I thought there were quite a few good series (socke vs drewbie, huk vs kiwkaki in winners bracket final, etc.) and the casting was top notch. I'm a little disappointed in the stream quality for the HD version, but other than that it seemed like a well run tourney. Ideally we would of gotten less mirrors at the end, but there is no way to control that. Overall I thought it was an enjoyable experience and I look forward to future MLG events.
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