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Ziemas
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden53 Posts
August 29 2010 06:35 GMT
#221
Perhaps he should hook up with Cool and Tester since they where also dissatisfied with the immense practise time?
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
August 29 2010 06:41 GMT
#222
On August 29 2010 11:44 lac29 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 11:24 keV. wrote:
On August 29 2010 11:22 lac29 wrote:
Without a team I doubt Idra will stay in Korea. My odds are that he'll join Liquid despite his bm. I mean, who else is going to take him? Certainly not any Korean team.


Why wouldn't any Korean team take him? He's been playing with 2 different Korean pro teams for several years. If anything, he is the most likely foreign candidate to be picked up by a Korean team.

No one gives a shit about BM. Idra doesn't even speak the language.


Because Korean teams in general prefer Korean players? Because Idra seems to have no interest in learning Korean or having extended interaction with Korean teammates and would probably prefer English speaking teammates/team? Because we know how much of a good predictor you are (ex. Google Wave)?


I'm sure a LOT of teams would want him on their team.

Honestly, how many foreigners (and American) are on Pro-korean teams? Idra is one of the few foreigners who actually made it there and most of us would root for him just from association by nationality. It's the same thing as Yao Ming playing basketball in the NBA. There's literally like a article on him every day in the Chinese newspaper even though theres absolutely no new news to report about him and every person in China roots for his team and buy his team's jerseys and merchandise just because "Yao Ming is on it". After Yao went into the NBA, basketball became a heck lot popular in china.

Look at TossGirl from BW afaik she's not very good but they keep her on a team for gimmicks and because she sells tickets. Idra can easily sell tickets and increase the SC2 esports fanbase in America just by being on the team.

No offense to Idra because he's very skilled and is one of the best sc2 players out there.
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
August 29 2010 07:06 GMT
#223
On August 29 2010 14:21 IdrA wrote:
i havent read the thread but id like to post a bit of a clarification cuz i think some of the connotation of what i said was lost in the translation of that interview, if someone could translate this and post it on a korean site thatd be awesome too

i didnt mean it as a slight to kespa or cj and my decision had absolutely nothing to do with the political situation between kespa/blizzard. i left because after almost 2 and a half years i wasnt really enjoying the progaming lifestyle anymore, the long hours and lack of freedom, and with star2 i feel ill have opportunities to do professional gaming without living like that. i said kespa teams because they all function that way, not because i didnt want to be associated with kespa. also id like to thank cj both for my time with them and for how supportive theyve been of my decision to leave.


Ok Greg, thx for bringing some light into situation, but, as a big CJ fan would like to ask you if they showed a bit interest in recontracting you or do they have plans for SC2??

Best of Luck
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
Wolfpox
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada164 Posts
August 29 2010 08:30 GMT
#224
Whatever he does, he makes for a good presence in SC2 esports
[B] Butigroove wrote:[/B] Blizzard is double expanding to the natural gold base of our poor little nerd hearts.
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
August 29 2010 08:32 GMT
#225
I thought IdrA was already in OGS?
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
August 29 2010 08:32 GMT
#226
gregs actually a really professional guy

gl with your endeavors
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
August 29 2010 08:36 GMT
#227
i love you idra!!!!!
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
August 29 2010 09:49 GMT
#228
On August 29 2010 17:32 TriniMasta wrote:
I thought IdrA was already in OGS?


Nope. He was in CJ the last few years
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
August 29 2010 10:38 GMT
#229
On August 29 2010 14:21 IdrA wrote:
i havent read the thread but id like to post a bit of a clarification cuz i think some of the connotation of what i said was lost in the translation of that interview, if someone could translate this and post it on a korean site thatd be awesome too

i didnt mean it as a slight to kespa or cj and my decision had absolutely nothing to do with the political situation between kespa/blizzard. i left because after almost 2 and a half years i wasnt really enjoying the progaming lifestyle anymore, the long hours and lack of freedom, and with star2 i feel ill have opportunities to do professional gaming without living like that. i said kespa teams because they all function that way, not because i didnt want to be associated with kespa. also id like to thank cj both for my time with them and for how supportive theyve been of my decision to leave.

That's understandable

12 hours a day each day is retarded.
lacho_u
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria535 Posts
August 29 2010 11:56 GMT
#230
12 hours a day is retarded, but all of you fanboys are screamin when top BW korean pros play and everybody wants to be as good as JD for examply, it's about the person if playing 16h profersional game is good enough for you to do for living it's ok. If not just get a real life
Power is nothing without control
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 12:08:43
August 29 2010 12:03 GMT
#231
Because in "real life jobs" people don't have to work 12 hours a day? I wish it would be true
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 29 2010 12:09 GMT
#232
We'll see if oGs is the right place for Idra, if he really didn't want to play that much h/day and wanted more time to do something else. As far as i know, oGs is pretty 'hardcore' aswell? Thats why Tester and Cool left the team, to be more free and practise in their own schedule (before army..).


But good luck, will be rooting for you and hope to see you in a team when the time comes!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Syro
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany113 Posts
August 29 2010 12:43 GMT
#233
GL IdrA for the furute!
ProFail
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (North)81 Posts
August 29 2010 12:52 GMT
#234
I think for him to be successful he needs to become more professional and act like a good sportsman, if he ever wants e-sports to become huge. People like IdrA (As much respect as I have for him) are definitely holding the e-sports scene back by being really ratty looking, greasy and rude to everyone, including the interviewers (IEM Finals Interview)
Didnt play Beta, Never played any RTS, straight in plat.
Comrade
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden102 Posts
August 29 2010 13:12 GMT
#235
On August 29 2010 12:47 lac29 wrote:
Comrade: You quoted the wrong person.


My bad, I had 2 qoute I guess you quoted whoever i was responding to and I removed one of the quote signatures. sorry.
Fighting capitalist macro everywhere
Xoso
Profile Joined April 2010
41 Posts
August 29 2010 13:18 GMT
#236
On August 29 2010 21:03 wiesel wrote:
Because in "real life jobs" people don't have to work 12 hours a day? I wish it would be true


Most people in America work 8 hours a day and if you are white collar in reality much less than that. Alteast from my experience in the Corporate world that is how it works.
esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
August 29 2010 14:28 GMT
#237
On August 29 2010 21:52 ProFail wrote:
I think for him to be successful he needs to become more professional and act like a good sportsman, if he ever wants e-sports to become huge. People like IdrA (As much respect as I have for him) are definitely holding the e-sports scene back by being really ratty looking, greasy and rude to everyone, including the interviewers (IEM Finals Interview)


I do not think IdrA was greasy or rude. He just lost a finals in what would be, for him, the worst way possible. So sure, his mood wasn't the best. He was still calm and professional though, and this he has been nothing buy good for esports.

If only his in game manner matched his interview manner .
piegasm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States266 Posts
August 29 2010 15:51 GMT
#238
On August 29 2010 21:52 ProFail wrote:
I think for him to be successful he needs to become more professional and act like a good sportsman, if he ever wants e-sports to become huge. People like IdrA (As much respect as I have for him) are definitely holding the e-sports scene back by being really ratty looking, greasy and rude to everyone, including the interviewers (IEM Finals Interview)


I'd say IdrA was admirably civilized at the IEM Finals Interview. The guy basically says to MorroW "well you won the tournament but it doesn't really count cuz reapers are imba" and then turns to IdrA and says "let's not talk about balance..." The interviewer is lucky he came away from that with all his teeth still left in his mouth.

Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 18:10:21
August 29 2010 18:09 GMT
#239
On August 29 2010 14:57 travis wrote:
do you think it's possible you might slack and/or not be as sharp as you could if you continued to live "the progaming lifestyle" ?


I'm worried about this too. I mean 12 hours a day is a bit excessive for SCII, but I hope Idra still maintains a strict practice schedule. Especially since he is a macro player which requires steady practice.

I think another Korean SC2 team would be great for IdrA because he can practice with other players instead of ladder grinding on CJ.
kar1181
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom515 Posts
August 29 2010 18:21 GMT
#240
It would be interesting to see if anyone has done some research into optimum training conditions for games.

When you think about sports sciences (i'm sure there is overlap here), diet, training regime all these sorts of things have a lot of study and research behind them. The Korean approach of more is more, seems rather unsophisticated.

As 'pro-gaming' becomes an increasingly lucrative activity, the degree of professionalism in training and preparation is going to increase too. I wonder if anyone knows if there is some actual study behind 'optimum' performance in gaming?
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