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lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
August 29 2010 03:12 GMT
#181
Have you read/heard any of his interviews? Idra doesn't really care about learning Korean nor does he have that much interaction with his CJ teammates beyond a select few. Be informed before you make random statements.
Heosat
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia481 Posts
August 29 2010 03:14 GMT
#182
On August 29 2010 11:18 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 08:25 Heosat wrote:
On August 28 2010 22:47 keV. wrote:
It would be cool to see IdrA on liquid. However, it is unlikely (not because of his manner). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Liquid does not pay their players directly.


You're wrong.


Proof? I understand they are sponsored, but that is not the same as having a salary.


I am the sponsor.
Liquid ftw!
Horse != player. I'm from TLAF.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
August 29 2010 03:15 GMT
#183
Owned!
Hikko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1126 Posts
August 29 2010 03:17 GMT
#184
On August 29 2010 12:14 Heosat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 11:18 keV. wrote:
On August 29 2010 08:25 Heosat wrote:
On August 28 2010 22:47 keV. wrote:
It would be cool to see IdrA on liquid. However, it is unlikely (not because of his manner). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Liquid does not pay their players directly.


You're wrong.


Proof? I understand they are sponsored, but that is not the same as having a salary.


I am the sponsor.


I took this seriously and googled Heosat :X
♥
theBusiness
Profile Joined August 2010
United States13 Posts
August 29 2010 03:18 GMT
#185
On August 29 2010 12:06 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 11:44 lac29 wrote:
On August 29 2010 11:24 keV. wrote:
On August 29 2010 11:22 lac29 wrote:
Without a team I doubt Idra will stay in Korea. My odds are that he'll join Liquid despite his bm. I mean, who else is going to take him? Certainly not any Korean team.


Why wouldn't any Korean team take him? He's been playing with 2 different Korean pro teams for several years. If anything, he is the most likely foreign candidate to be picked up by a Korean team.

No one gives a shit about BM. Idra doesn't even speak the language.


Because Korean teams in general prefer Korean players? Because Idra seems to have no interest in learning Korean or having extended interaction with Korean teammates and would probably prefer English speaking teammates/team? Because we know how much of a good predictor you are (ex. Google Wave)?

Stop talking as if you know shit. It's good for their image if Korean teams take in a foreigner (white people are loved in Korea) and Idra IS learning Korean.
And I'm Korean, hence my word > yours.


You would think they would love all the foreign English teachers then...oh wait...
Heosat
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 03:24:29
August 29 2010 03:21 GMT
#186
On August 29 2010 12:17 Hikko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 12:14 Heosat wrote:
On August 29 2010 11:18 keV. wrote:
On August 29 2010 08:25 Heosat wrote:
On August 28 2010 22:47 keV. wrote:
It would be cool to see IdrA on liquid. However, it is unlikely (not because of his manner). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Liquid does not pay their players directly.


You're wrong.


Proof? I understand they are sponsored, but that is not the same as having a salary.


I am the sponsor.


I took this seriously and googled Heosat :X


Annoyingly there are a couple of impostors now. :/ I blame being featured in several of Husky's videos.
Liquid ftw!
Horse != player. I'm from TLAF.
Ethic
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada439 Posts
August 29 2010 03:24 GMT
#187
TBH I'm behind IdrA's decision to put distance between himself and KeSPA...

If he wants a future in SC2 that's the best course of action.
SC2 ID: Ethic.791 - 1v1 DIAMOND - SHILOH UPSILON
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
August 29 2010 03:32 GMT
#188
heosat: As a sponsor I assume you have say into who joins Liquid (sponsored or not)?
Heosat
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia481 Posts
August 29 2010 03:36 GMT
#189
On August 29 2010 12:32 lac29 wrote:
heosat: As a sponsor I assume you have say into who joins Liquid (sponsored or not)?


I am privy to discussions but ultimately I will agree with Nazgul, who has far more experience in this realm than I do.
Liquid ftw!
Horse != player. I'm from TLAF.
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 03:41:03
August 29 2010 03:36 GMT
#190
On August 29 2010 12:24 Platypus wrote:
TBH I'm behind IdrA's decision to put distance between himself and KeSPA...

If he wants a future in SC2 that's the best course of action.

It's not his decision to leave CJ, his contract was running out and he didnt get a new one. Otherwise i guess he would have liked to stay with CJ
TheDna
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany577 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 03:41:22
August 29 2010 03:40 GMT
#191
On August 29 2010 12:12 lac29 wrote:
Have you read/heard any of his interviews? Idra doesn't really care about learning Korean nor does he have that much interaction with his CJ teammates beyond a select few. Be informed before you make random statements.


He does learn Korean. He also said that he really likes the korean food and language and is always happy when he comes to Korea from a US trip because the food is so healthy.
I think the chance that he actually becomes good at korean and becomes pretty famous at some point in his sc2 career is kinda high because he is not really as ignorant as some people think he is.
Comrade
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden102 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 03:45:38
August 29 2010 03:45 GMT
#192
On August 29 2010 12:12 lac29 wrote:
because he is not really as ignorant as some people think he is.


are you sure we're talking about the same person here?
Fighting capitalist macro everywhere
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
August 29 2010 03:47 GMT
#193
Comrade: You quoted the wrong person.
banzaiib
Profile Joined August 2010
United States53 Posts
August 29 2010 03:50 GMT
#194
On August 29 2010 11:47 hadoken5 wrote:
I hope he gets onto a team he likes. Can't imagine IdrA practising with other pros. I mean if he's good now, imagine him practising with pros. It'll be like when Goku went to go train with King Kai and came back and knew the Kaioken and owned everybody. But then there will be someone like Vegeta that will own him back. And he will need help from his friends to beat him and then since Goku gets stronger when he loses he will be better. Then he will go to another planet training in 100x gravity so then he comes and is super ownage like Goku was and then there will be someone like Frieza that owns him untill he rages and turns into a super saiyan. Then cell comes and then he gets owned and asks his kid to help him out to kill cell so the person that IdrA trained will kill Cell. Then Buu will come and seem to be unstoppable and will make Vegeta super ownage but Goku will hide SS3 from him and then will fuse with him to kill Buu. Then will use a spirit bomb to own Buu. And then some shit happens where he becomes a kid again but he's in the future. I don't even understad that shit.


love it... made me laugh!

Wait so IdrA = goku? His temperament seems more like Vegeta... <shrug> It's too late to be over thinking a Dragonball reference...
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 04:06:06
August 29 2010 04:05 GMT
#195
On August 29 2010 12:14 Heosat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 11:18 keV. wrote:
On August 29 2010 08:25 Heosat wrote:
On August 28 2010 22:47 keV. wrote:
It would be cool to see IdrA on liquid. However, it is unlikely (not because of his manner). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Liquid does not pay their players directly.


You're wrong.


Proof? I understand they are sponsored, but that is not the same as having a salary.


I am the sponsor.


So, Liquid members are paid a monthly/whatever-ly salary? Neat.

Also, a bit of an annoying way to "Correct me" When I say that; I'm actually looking for info, not a quip.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
August 29 2010 04:09 GMT
#196
On August 28 2010 22:23 s.a.y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 22:22 DarkShadowz wrote:
He will never join Liquid as long as good manners is a criteria. But his skill is certainly high enough so that he can basically choose any team he want.


i doubt that, as he is a member of TL for some 6-7 years now.


Liquid invites players, they don't accept applications.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
August 29 2010 04:10 GMT
#197
ah well, there probably wasn't much hope for him in CJ since most KeSPA teams are definitely more focused on BW
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Heosat
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia481 Posts
August 29 2010 04:14 GMT
#198
On August 29 2010 13:05 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 12:14 Heosat wrote:
On August 29 2010 11:18 keV. wrote:
On August 29 2010 08:25 Heosat wrote:
On August 28 2010 22:47 keV. wrote:
It would be cool to see IdrA on liquid. However, it is unlikely (not because of his manner). Correct me if I'm wrong, but Liquid does not pay their players directly.


You're wrong.


Proof? I understand they are sponsored, but that is not the same as having a salary.


I am the sponsor.


So, Liquid members are paid a monthly/whatever-ly salary? Neat.

Also, a bit of an annoying way to "Correct me" When I say that; I'm actually looking for info, not a quip.


My apologies. I am sometimes too succinct.
Liquid ftw!
Horse != player. I'm from TLAF.
Keldrath
Profile Joined July 2010
United States449 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-29 04:19:39
August 29 2010 04:15 GMT
#199
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 29 2010 12:36 wiesel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 12:24 Platypus wrote:
TBH I'm behind IdrA's decision to put distance between himself and KeSPA...

If he wants a future in SC2 that's the best course of action.

[quote]+ Show Spoiler +
It's not his decision to leave CJ, his contract was running out and he didnt get a new one. Otherwise i guess he would have liked to stay with CJ


i dont think that is necessarily true. the way i see it is IdrA on CJ Entus>only SC2 player on CJ and has permission from the team to switch to SC2>CJ subject to KeSPA>KeSPA and blizz not doing too good and KeSPA trying stifle the growth of SC2 in korea>im guessing his team takes a large cut of his tournament winnings>contracted player so cant leave> contract running out soon> decides to leave because he doesnt want to be controlled by KeSPA and have a large part of his earnings taken away when the team isnt really helping him improve since he cant practice with any of them> no point in being on team>decides to put in his notice that he doesnt want a new contract.

its a good time to leave since GSL is starting and its got an enormous prize pool. he can earn a lot there especially if he wins since he'll get to keep it all. and he basically earned it himself since like i said no practice help from his team since none of them play.

he moved to korea to join the team cause that was just what you had to do for BW. SC2 isnt very big in korea yet and all of the big stuff is going on in the West. so i'm thinking he might not see much reason to stay in korea anymore as well since the language barrier he has said is very hard to deal with. i wouldnt be surprised to see him come home since this is where the scene is really taking off. i dont think this game is going to revolve around korea like BW did. and i believe he's said time and time again the Korea server is probably worse than NA is.

That's how i'm seeing it all from what i know. it's all guessing but i think its probably the closest thing to the truth than that he just couldnt get a new contract. im betting he didnt want one.
If you want peace... prepare for war.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
August 29 2010 04:17 GMT
#200
On August 29 2010 12:50 banzaiib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 11:47 hadoken5 wrote:
I hope he gets onto a team he likes. Can't imagine IdrA practising with other pros. I mean if he's good now, imagine him practising with pros. It'll be like when Goku went to go train with King Kai and came back and knew the Kaioken and owned everybody. But then there will be someone like Vegeta that will own him back. And he will need help from his friends to beat him and then since Goku gets stronger when he loses he will be better. Then he will go to another planet training in 100x gravity so then he comes and is super ownage like Goku was and then there will be someone like Frieza that owns him untill he rages and turns into a super saiyan. Then cell comes and then he gets owned and asks his kid to help him out to kill cell so the person that IdrA trained will kill Cell. Then Buu will come and seem to be unstoppable and will make Vegeta super ownage but Goku will hide SS3 from him and then will fuse with him to kill Buu. Then will use a spirit bomb to own Buu. And then some shit happens where he becomes a kid again but he's in the future. I don't even understad that shit.


love it... made me laugh!

Wait so IdrA = goku? His temperament seems more like Vegeta... <shrug> It's too late to be over thinking a Dragonball reference...


Yeah he's definitely more like Vegeta. Vegeta improves through his rage. Like when Goku showed every his super saiyan transformation in the Trunks saga, Vegeta was all pissed and wanted it super bad. He felt like he deserved it more since he is the prince of all saiyans. So then instead of going through emotional distress to become super saiyan, Vegeta knocked out a monstrous training session to achieve his goal. If you don't remember, he trained at like 300x earths gravity then he landed on some planet. A giant asteroid was going to wreck his ship but then he got owned and raged hard. All of a sudden, he turned super saiyan.

So I guess right now Idra is like super saiyan vegeta but now he is trying to achieve ultimate level. New training house is therefore the hyperbolic time chamber. Then to go even further, he is going to let himself get possessed (by kespa maybe?) and become super saiyan majin Idra. Remember Idra, there is good in your heart! Don't turn yourself over to kespa
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